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posted on Nov, 12 2002 @ 05:11 PM
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Despite your claim of truth "truth" Evolution is still a valid consideration (i.e.fosills). God through nature made man possible (perhaps an angel or four were involved in relation to founders but Nature was what made there purpose clear).

Your statements are not based in truth by hypothesis. And that you say that free will is not something God cares about could make one wonder who exactly is the Communist or for that matter the Fascist.

If God did not care about free will why make it possible?




posted on Nov, 12 2002 @ 05:48 PM
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Um, truth, your thingamajig says Maryland, is there one in China? I don't see how one can be so against free thinking. Free thinking brought us science. Galileo had free thinking. Because of it, we now know, unlike what the church said and nearly killed him for going against, the world isn't flat.

Copernicus the same thing, he thinks, doesn't follow, and is nearly killed by the church for it. Great thinkers, scientists, philosophers, many died at the hands of the church for thinking. But enough came through to enlighten us with the truth. And, Darwin was not the first to come up with evolution. Greeks did. Later on Romans, I think the book said a couple of guys named Leoni and Jonda(not sure, sorry, returned it to library) were executed by the church for talking about evolution. But, later on you get some guys in France, then England, and then Darwin who comes up with the name evolution. later on a book and so forth.

And still waiting for proof that your religon is right. So far no one has. Jedi came on and said going to hell, truth came on saying I'm right, you wrong(actually said FM wrong), face wrath of god. But no proof. of course, there can be none, for no religon is right. Follow ten commandments, but even though given to Moses(jew) Christians seem to think it is their's. Why? I saw the movie, Moses gets them, not Jesus, not David, Moses. A Jew, so why they involved with Christians?

I know the answer to that, but wondering why they would do that. Anyways, I think TC is messing with us. Or his name was hacked. For TC would never say such a thing, unless a joke to get us riled up or a different person.



posted on Nov, 12 2002 @ 10:20 PM
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man your truley something else.

No i did not say "I write you wrong"

or the classic....

" you going to hell "

No i dont think you are, its not my descision.


let me say this about free will.

You still have it.

I told you that ive witnessed miracles of jesus, ive gave you the
prophets, saints own words and yet you still have free will of choice.

do you not?

can you not go out any time you want and believe whatever you want??

Im just here telling you this is true because of how hes revealed himself to me.

if you knew i was sincere you would say...

Oh wow, my God he might be the one.

not one of you have said that, are you truley open to god revealing himself to
you??

Think about it.

non the less when my short stay comes to an end on the internet, you in the
end will still have "free" will of choice.

But that in no way changes the truth of god.

The truth of God cannot, "cannot" change because man changes.


The truth of God will always remain as it is.

peace.



posted on Nov, 12 2002 @ 11:05 PM
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Iluv -- remember that the "last days/Jesus is coming " theology is only held by SOME Christians. There are a lot of sects (Lutheran, Methodist, etc) who do not believe "we're living in the last days."

I wouldn't even begin to guess at numbers, but I'd say the majority recognize that these days are actually better than (say) the 1940's or the 1840's (when a "gentleman" could buy a little 13 year old girl for his pleasure and it was considered perfectly acceptable -- or rape his slaves) or the 1600's ... and so on and so forth.



posted on Nov, 13 2002 @ 12:05 AM
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In the good old days if you cast your shadow upon the wrong person it was
off with your head. Today in every country in the world no matter how important a person is, that is unacceptable behavior.



posted on Nov, 13 2002 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Truth
if you knew i was sincere you would say...

Oh wow, my God he might be the one.


No-one is questioning your sincerity, Truth. I do not doubt that you act and believe in good faith. I simply question the validity of your belief system.

And don't worry, Byrd. I have a number of friends who are Christians. I just simply cannot understand right-wingers, specifically Catholic right-wingers.



posted on Nov, 13 2002 @ 02:44 PM
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Truth, you lie. You did say I'm RIGHT(not write) you wrong to freemason.

"Freemason, You got it all wrong"

And, I didn't say you did, I said Jedi did. Wait, I think you slipped up. I said jedi did, you come and say I never said going to hell. You wrote that on wrong name. Well, truth/jedi, hope your multi-perso clears up.



posted on Nov, 13 2002 @ 03:23 PM
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Truth your not understanding it is not Man that has changed, what has changed is mans understanding. This making the claims of God as someone who causes damage to the world unrealistic. More a more this sounds like a more advanced
version, of the reasons some justified human sacrifices to appease the gods.

This in the sense we are still trying to blame God for natural disasters. Truth again the days the bible was written. Our most advanced consideration of the Universe was equal to that in size to the orbit of Saturn.

Today it is this (see attached)
www.anzwers.org...

We exist live in the Virgo Supercluster
(See Attached)

www.anzwers.org...


What are your thoughts?



posted on Nov, 13 2002 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Toltec
JM there exist no culture which has in there history something akin to the Ten commandments.

Take a look in the Egyptian Book of Coming Forth by Day (More commonly known as Book of the Dead) & check out the "negative confession" that must be recited to 42 gods sitting in judgment during the "Weighing of the Heart" ceremony...


Originally posted by Toltec As well do most cultures claim an alternative person who was born of a virgin and was accepted as a prophet of peace.

True...The ancient Greek have *lots* of "virgin birth" stories...Where the "male parent" a god, most notably Zeus, disguised in animal form (Can we say tthe word, "Bestiality"?...I knew we could!
)


Originally posted by Toltec Truth again the days the bible was written. Our most advanced consideration of the Universe was equal to that in size to the orbit of Saturn.
Today it is this (see attached) www.anzwers.org...
We exist live in the Virgo Supercluster
(See Attached)
www.anzwers.org...

...And every time I see new photos taken by the Hubble telescope & see the beuaty of God's handiwork, I appreciate more & more what He gave to us. As our view of the universe expands, we understand the Power of God even more...The type of Creator it takes to make THIS!


As the sciences study to learn more about how God actually put it together, I appreciate Him more & more as well...Such subtle complexity!...Such grandeur!

And yet, the universe is a *dangerous* place as well...Just being in the wrong place at the wrong time could end it all for the entire human race.
Ann Rice had it right when she referred to the Earth as the "Savage Garden"...



posted on Nov, 13 2002 @ 11:02 PM
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Actually the Ten Commandments were coppied from the Book of the Dead, hence why they are so similar
(well not coppied, but hmm, influenced SIGNIFICANTLY)


And actually if you want a most AWESOME! picture, get hmm one of the National Geographics
I can never remember the dates, I have 'em all the way back to 1919
but this one was like 2001 or 2000 UNIVERSE was its name and it had a map of the UNIVERSE, really cool.

You seen it? Began with our solar system, to our stellar neighborhood, to the galaxy, then to the galactic neighborhood, then to the virgo super cluster and on to the whole seen universe, accurately plotted as best we could in a perspective (3d on paper
) map...really awesome.

Also I believe it was hmm august 2001 or maybe january, of the "Astronomy" magazine, has an awesome fold out of a panoramic of the milky way as seen from earth, long exposures for real color....now that is "godly"


Sincerely,
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posted on Nov, 14 2002 @ 04:10 PM
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The religious right fails to respond to the significant difference our technology offers, in relation to a perspective on reality as a whole.

Not that what we today know should be for its own sake considered a complete depiction of totality. But to be honest, mankind is faced with a considerable disparity, in relation to what was commonly accepted 200 years Ago.

Several issues come to mind, amongst then is mankind in relation to what can be accepted as inherent capacities? Jesus said that with the faith of mustard seed one could move mountains. Given what we understand today this does seem apparent. From that question and response it does then portend to another question, this as to what is in fact Faith?

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fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions . Some very interesting words. And I will add this in the present, no matter how far away an event occurs it occurs in the here and now.

What are your thoughts?



posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 01:54 PM
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You do not need to be Catholic to follow God's word. Islam has a ten commandment like thng. I said it's ideals, not them itself.



posted on Nov, 15 2002 @ 05:32 PM
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JM all cultures have rules who's intent is to protect the innocent (otherwise one get into issues of survival for the culture). All cultures believe that killing is wrong as well as is stealing and coveting another possessions is incorrect. All cultures accept a principal God to whom the expectation is that homage be adhered to. And while they all have different names there intent does seem to be the same.





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