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Originally posted by America?
... A 10-15% ratio of people dying in russian training is acceptable.
Originally posted by Bryce_Prine
the u.s. navy seals are the best at hand to hand fighting i think
Originally posted by Lonestar24
...and Shaolin are utterly untrained in actual fighting. Notwithstanding their historical roots, the Shalojn themselves acknowledge that their techniques are primarily for the purpose of body-assisted meditation.
Most of the theories regarding the effectivity of martial arts, especially the "traditional" or especially "lethal" ones are blown out of the water by watching a simple boxing match, or rather any competitive fight.
Just like in a real fight, the first rule of any sport fight is to uphold a defense; and if a boxer can dodge and parry the lightning jabs of his opponents, he can also dodge and parry any other secretive or stylized technique by sheer physical and mental capability - even the infamous "one-pinky death punches" of Hong Kong lore.
The own fighting technique and capability is absolutely secondary IF the defense is solid. That is why almost any of the standard hand to hand technique trained to soldiers is started with a defensive move.
In this context it is irrelevant that sport fights are hampered by caveats; the important thing is that in a square-off of sufficiently trained individuals, it becomes obvious that fights are won by a combination of luck, concentration and perseverance.
[edit on 28/7/2010 by Lonestar24]