What fighter has the best radar?

The B-2 has a very advanced radar and the unit that it's being upgraded to is nearly on par with the F-22's... however the B-2 is not a fighter and that's what this thread is about~

Originally posted by intelgurl
The B-2 has a very advanced radar and the unit that it's being upgraded to is nearly on par with the F-22's... however the B-2 is not a fighter and that's what this thread is about~

That's right, I forgot that this was about fighters, not all aircraft. Thanks for pointing that out.

Originally posted by TheConservative

Originally posted by intelgurl
The B-2 has a very advanced radar and the unit that it's being upgraded to is nearly on par with the F-22's... however the B-2 is not a fighter and that's what this thread is about~

That's right, I forgot that this was about fighters, not all aircraft. Thanks for pointing that out.

Be great for another thread... feel free to make it - i'll contribute~


[Edited on 15-1-2004 by intelgurl]

^ Tried but administrator deleated it, since the E-3 Sentry is the obvious winner; I did a topic on all aircraft, not just bombers. It's okay though.

It's not more-or-less of the plane... it's the kind of radar system the plane uses.

I'm pretty sure that it dosen't carry the best individual radar but the Su-37 should probably get some points for having a rear facing radar as part of the system, the pod that sticks out between the jet nozzels. Certainly this is a useful fear even if it lacks the outright power of some of the other radars.

ok...the top fighters by radar:

1 - F-22
2 - Eurofighter
3 - SU-35
4 - Tornado F3
5 - Mig-35
6 - Mirage 2000-5 / Rafale
7 - Sea Harrier F/A2
8 - F15
9 - SU-27
10 - Mig-31
11 - F-16
12 - JAS 39
13 - F18

It would be hard to tell which aircraft would have the best radar, with all the new generation fighters comming online. But as Older fighters go, as someone pointed out the F14 had a very advanced radar system for its time.And also the Mig 29 had a very powerfull dopler radar, but again these airplanes are nearing the end of the service lives with their country's of origin. would love to know the new specs of the SU47..

1 - F-22
2 - Eurofighter
3 - SU-35
4 - Tornado F3
5 - Mig-35
6 - Mirage 2000-5 / Rafale
7 - Sea Harrier F/A2
8 - F15
9 - SU-27
10 - Mig-31
11 - F-16
12 - JAS 39
13 - F18

I'd put the Su-27 line fighters up a notch or two for better radar coverage in the rear(unless this is already taken into account or more common then I think). Some may state that this isn't very useful but given the new manuverability available through TVC and using the A-11? they may be able to dodge/destroy missiles.

"I'd put the Su-27 line fighters up a notch or two for better radar coverage in the rear(unless this is already taken into account or more common then I think). Some may state that this isn't very useful but given the new manuverability available through TVC and using the A-11? they may be able to dodge/destroy missiles."

This doesnt compared the overall air combat of the aircraft, just the frontal radar when fighting another fighter aircraft, which shows its BVR combat ability!

If it were comparing all the abilites of ther plane the list would look very different.

Ok, that works, my point wasen't that all the various characterstics of the planes should be taken into account, but that rear facing radar as part of the radar system should. However if we're focusing on the absolute detection power of any individual unit then the list probably belongs as it is.

What is "the best radar"? If you are talking about long range than Mig-31. If you are talking about the radar that can detect it's target more precisely and has advanced features (like those ones posted by Intelgurl) then F-22 followed by Eurofighter. But the Mig-31 had really excelent radar for it's time.

Originally posted by ppp
ok...the top fighters by radar:

1 - F-22
2 - Eurofighter
3 - SU-35
4 - Tornado F3
5 - Mig-35
6 - Mirage 2000-5 / Rafale
7 - Sea Harrier F/A2
8 - F15
9 - SU-27
10 - Mig-31
11 - F-16
12 - JAS 39
13 - F18

That's interesting seeing the F3 and the Sea Harrier. F3's use Foxhunter and Sea Harriers use Blue Vixen radar. The Eurofighter CAPTOR is based off the Blue Vixen.

Though Radar is far more complex than the summary we give here, it's worth pointing out that when the RAF upgraded a few F3's to carry ALARM missiles (designated EF-3), it's been commented that the combination of Foxhunter radar and ALARM anti-radar missiles made it the best SEAD plane in the world. Could be bollocks though, the F3 is a pile of crap as a fighter normally...

Originally posted by TheConservative
the E-3 Sentry is the obvious winner;

True

Edit: what about the Isreali one?

Those who poo poo tubes should know that in a big fight, tubes are immune to EMP of nuclear explosions, so while the halon is being used on some western jets, the older tech will keep on ticking.

Historical fact, MiG-25 pilots were absolutely forbidden from turning that radar on while they were on the ground, it would microwave a rabbit warm dead over klick away on the runway. It used tubes and burned through any jamming the West could put up. When a Foxbat pilot defected in the late 70's and landed in Japan the US had a good look at the radar as well as the tech of the airframe, and sent it back home to the Russians in pieces.

It was the boogeyman of the late 1960's and 70's, the F-15 was spefically designed to counter it. Once they learned how limited it was in maneuver and range there was a collective sigh of relief in the Pentagon.

Originally posted by ppp
ok...the top fighters by radar:

1 - F-22
2 - Eurofighter
3 - SU-35
4 - Tornado F3
5 - Mig-35
6 - Mirage 2000-5 / Rafale
7 - Sea Harrier F/A2
8 - F15
9 - SU-27
10 - Mig-31
11 - F-16
12 - JAS 39
13 - F18

What you didn't even put the F-14 up there the F-14 as basically the same radar as the F-22 and with almost the same range i would put the F-14 at least 4-5. Cuz it can fire at six different target simultaneously form 50 feet to 65 thousand feet and it uses a type of thermal radar that lets the pilot see enemy aircraft at about 300 miles.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
What you didn't even put the F-14 up there the F-14 as basically the same radar as the F-22 and with almost the same range i would put the F-14 at least 4-5. Cuz it can fire at six different target simultaneously...

It can track 24 targets while directing missiles (Phoenix) to six of them.
(TWS mode, meaning it still scans for new "contacts")
APG-71 is upgraded version of AWG-9.

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www.jolly-rogers.com...

Because of this long range multiple target tracking capability Iranians used Tomcats much as "mini-Awacs" in their war against Iraq.


This rises F/A-18's position significantly, it's similar technology as Raptor's radar. (it might be this radar will be installed to JSF)
www.raytheon.com...
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Yeah, it is JSF's radar.
The AN/APG-79 is derived from technology developed by Boeing and Raytheon for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program. The radar has an antenna that consists of a matrix of programmable transmit-receive (T/R) modules, which can act cooperatively or individually, allowing the system to act as a "low probability of intercept" radar; a precision jammer; or an ELINT system to locate and target emitters. Functions can be performed simultaneously by allocating blocks of T/R modules to each function; the AN/APG-79 is "multimode" in a very strong sense, since it can actually operate in several modes at the same time, tracking an aerial target while mapping out ground targets. Astonishingly, the high degree of parallelism allows the front-seater and the back-seater to effectively each have their own radar. An AESA is so capable that it is really not entirely accurate to call it a "radar", as it is more than that.
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With the AN/APG-77, the F/A-22 will be able to detect an enemy aircraft's radar from distances of up to 460 kilometers (250 nautical miles). It will be able to acquire an enemy aircraft with radar at distances of up to 220 kilometers (125 nautical miles)
So that first range is for passive detection of radiation send by other aircraft.
The F/A-22's stealthiness makes this tricky in the first place, but to make matters more troublesome, the AESA also analyses the enemy's radar and sends out a jamming burst to disrupt the lock. The AESA then goes on to other tasks until the enemy radar begins its lock cycle again.
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Well, with frequency agility and fast beam steering this "jamming" is surely possible.