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Topic started on 20-11-2003 @ 10:32 AM by sirCyco


The Bush administration appears determined to build a new generation of small nuclear weapons, especially "earth penetrators", designed to attack nuclear, chemical or biological materials buried deep underground.

A new form of warfare is coming. It is the extension into the nuclear field of the highly accurate conventional bombs and missiles already in use.

In the jargon preferred by those in this business, they are called "small build" weapons - weapons of about one kiloton, 1,000 tonnes of explosive.

news.bbc.co.uk...

wha hoo...new bombs



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 10:55 AM by Seapeople


Speak softly but carry a big stick............

[Edited on 11/20/2003 by Seapeople]



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 10:59 AM by MrRadicalEd


Yeah I read about bunker busting bombs that carry a smaller nuclear warhead in a Popular Science magazine around 2 or 3 months ago.. I don't like the idea one bit.

Digest:
PopSci Article: www.popsci.com...

www.physicstoday.org...
www.janes.com...

[Edited on 20-11-2003 by MrRadicalEd]



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 11:17 AM by intelgurl


These "small build" weapons are actually what has been referred to in the press as "nuclear bunker busters" but are in fact referred to as "Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrators" to military planners. In fact, the U.S. arsenal already contains a nuclear bunker-buster -- known as the B61-11 -- but it was built to penetrate only soil and will not survive rock.

These new nuclear penetrators will be built in the shape of a thin cylinder with a pointed nose. When dropped from an airplane, its weight and speed allow it to smash through the surface of the ground or puncture rock or concrete.

Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos National Laboratories each have an existing small hydrogen bomb they are proposing to modify to become the "Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator". Livermore will work with a bomb known as the B83. Los Alamos will modify the B61, the bomb that now serves as the U.S. nuclear bunker buster.

Thats my 2 cents worth...

intelgurl



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 11:37 AM by MarkLuitzen


the main reason of people against the use of nuclear weapons were those pictures of hirosima.
That was an uncontrolled explosion. now is it so because of people being afraid for it rechearch is not been done. because at the end they may have a controlled explosion or controlled use of the energy comming from it and use it for other purposes like beamed explosions ect.



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:08 PM by Seekerof


There is no need to down the US for doing this....the Russians have had them for years......(ie: suitcase nukes, etc.)


regards seekerof



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:12 PM by sirCyco


we have plently of bombs..nuclear and not..have we not learned enough yet??we realy need more?? ha..yeah we really have nothing better to do than push us all farther down the road to a nuclear holocaust...

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by sirCyco]



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:15 PM by sirCyco


It is the extension into the nuclear field of the highly accurate conventional bombs and missiles already in use.

they are not talking about some lame "suitcase" bombs your talking about...they are talking about laser guided nuclear weapons that are going to be used on small targets.....

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by sirCyco]



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:17 PM by alternateheaven



Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
the main reason of people against the use of nuclear weapons were those pictures of hirosima.
That was an uncontrolled explosion. now is it so because of people being afraid for it rechearch is not been done. because at the end they may have a controlled explosion or controlled use of the energy comming from it and use it for other purposes like beamed explosions ect.


Controlled or Uncontrolled doesnt really matter. Once the dust cloud of debris and radioactive particles is up in the air, its all in how the winds shift, and that is completely uncontrolled. The fact of the matter is that all the weapons in the NBC arsenal are stupid, dangerous, and useless.



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:25 PM by intelgurl



Originally posted by alternateheaven
The fact of the matter is that all the weapons in the NBC arsenal are stupid, dangerous, and useless.

Stupid and Dangerous.. yes~
But useless? If it's used at all then it's useful for something - certainly nothing good, but useful just the same...
guess I'm being a bit too picky today... anyone have some Mydol?



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:32 PM by Seekerof



Originally posted by sirCyco
we have plently of bombs..nuclear and not..have we not learned enough yet??we realy need more?? ha..yeah we really have nothing better to do than push us all farther down the road to a nuclear holocaust...

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by sirCyco]




sirCyco.......
"We" is refering to who?
You really think that we, the US, are the only ones toying around with this or even adding to existing nuclear stockpiles?
Might want to try again.....



regards
seekerof



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:37 PM by Russian



Originally posted by Seekerof

Originally posted by sirCyco
we have plently of bombs..nuclear and not..have we not learned enough yet??we realy need more?? ha..yeah we really have nothing better to do than push us all farther down the road to a nuclear holocaust...

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by sirCyco]




sirCyco.......
"We" is refering to who?
You really think that we, the US, are the only ones toying around with this or even adding to existing nuclear stockpiles?
Might want to try again.....



regards
seekerof


I agree US is not the only once to toy with nikes

Look at China, or Russian, or North Korea.

Well North Korea doesnt have that much nikes but they

Try to threaten everyone with what they go.

So is China.

They are threatening Tiwan(spelling?)



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:37 PM by sirCyco


You really think that we, the US, are the only ones toying around with this or even adding to existing nuclear stockpiles?

the united states goverment has more nuclear weapons than anybody in the world...i thought that there was a ban on testing nuclear weapons??? i thought that we were supposed to be destroying previously made nuclear weapons...

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by sirCyco]



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:38 PM by Monk


All the world F*CKING NEEDS is more bloody nukes! When will George bush learn! he has enough as it is.



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:39 PM by Russian



Originally posted by sirCyco
You really think that we, the US, are the only ones toying around with this or even adding to existing nuclear stockpiles?

the united states goverment have more nuclear weapons than anybody in the world...i thought that there was a ban on testing nuclear weapons??? i thought that we were supposed to be destroying previously made nuclear weapons...



The pervious nukes are dismentaled(spekking?) in Y-12 base.



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:40 PM by MrRadicalEd


woah.. lets not point fingers so soon



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:40 PM by sirCyco


Might want to try again.....

try again?? what are you talking about???

stop being so arrogant

[Edited on 11-20-2003 by sirCyco]



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:40 PM by Russian



Originally posted by Monk
All the world F*CKING NEEDS is more bloody nukes! When will George bush learn! he has enough as it is.


Drop the Bush part cause this is NOT MUDPIT.



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:46 PM by sirCyco



Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by Monk
All the world F*CKING NEEDS is more bloody nukes! When will George bush learn! he has enough as it is.


Drop the Bush part cause this is NOT MUDPIT.



""The Bush administration appears determined to build a new generation of small nuclear weapons, especially "earth penetrators", designed to attack nuclear, chemical or biological materials buried deep underground.""

the article mentions the bush administration so i would say that it has its place in this discussion..



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reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 12:49 PM by Russian



Originally posted by sirCyco

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by Monk
All the world F*CKING NEEDS is more bloody nukes! When will George bush learn! he has enough as it is.


Drop the Bush part cause this is NOT MUDPIT.



""The Bush administration appears determined to build a new generation of small nuclear weapons, especially "earth penetrators", designed to attack nuclear, chemical or biological materials buried deep underground.""

the article mentions the bush administration so i would say that it has its place in this discussion..



its NOT Bush its just TECHNOLOGY ADVANCING.

You cant stop the technology advancement.

If we would a democrat as a persident it would be the same!

Welcome to the NEW ERA!



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