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reply posted on 1-7-2004 @ 07:57 AM by W_HAMILTON
Originally posted by qrios
How' bout the fact that it is just plain unnatural according to the laws of nature?


Is that so?

Homosexuality Observed in Animals

So does that mean it's more 'natural' now that you know birds, swans, whales, or (insert your favorite animal here!) partake in homosexual activities?

As for the whole debate, as to whether you are 'born' gay, or 'conditioned' to be gay, is there really a difference? Either way it basically takes free will out the subject, doesn't it? All I know is that it's definitely no choice, me being gay. Either I was born this way, or 'conditioned' this way at a point in my life where I had no say in it anyway. Judging by the fact that I was raised in a pretty anti-homosexual, very Republican, very conservative household, with no other gay members of my family, and really never knowing any openly gay people, I would say that it is not simply a conditioned thing. Maybe it's somewhat of both, I (like everyone else) really have no idea.

Originally posted by Scat
As for homosexuality, some say they are born gay. Honestly, I dont think we are "born" straight or gay. Whatever is shown as good, normal, or right whenever we are young is what we think of as the norm. it is from that standard that we either accept or rebel. People become straight or gay, they are born neither.


Again, read what I said above. Being gay definitely wasn't ever shown to me as being the norm. In all actuality, I don't think I've EVER met another openly gay person in real life (yes, I'm still in the closet). My family was never really accepting of gay people. Of course, growing up in school it wasn't like people were gay friendly there either. So where exactly would I have picked up on that being gay is ok, and that "hey, I should be gay too!"? It wasn't a rebelious thing either, since I was never really like that as a kid, and I could think of alot of less painful ways to rebel than 'choosing' to be gay

Originally posted by Scat
What better way to make life EASIER? Gay men are less common, so its much eaiser to get involved with someone without competition.


Make life easier for who, the straight guys? I have no problem getting women. I've had more girlfriends than most of my straight guy friends. It would be MUCH easier to just 'play it straight.' It's much more difficult to find someone who's gay that I'm attracted to (that's one of the main reasons I'm still in the closet, there's never been anyone good enough for me to want to come out of it I guess). I don't want to use a stereotype, but really, how many gay guys have you seen that have trouble finding women? Either way, it would be MUCH easier to simply snap my fingers and turn straight. So that theory doesn't fly with me.


reply posted on 4-7-2004 @ 11:04 AM by b0b
in response to blackjackels post which stated these words: "To answer your question No gay's should not be persecuted because they differ from Christian views. However you tell me what makes it ok to be gay and why only humans choose to be gay?

If this is something that is born into humans wouldn't you think that it could happen to some other animals on the face of the planet since we are all just organisms. But wait a minute there has never been a documented case of a gay animal. Why? because animals cannot make decisions they just go on instinct and that instinct tells them to reproduce ironically enough the same thing that human instincts tell us. It all comes down to human choice not genes."


that is in correct, many animals in this world are gay accually. in a zoo in newyork, tyhere are a set of gay penguins. when in a tank with other penguins they refused to mate. they were always neer each otiher and they tried to mate. they would constantly get rocks and pretend they were eggs, the penguins were then given an egg and they cared for it.

therefore you are wrong.

also, a child in birth can ahve too much or too little estrogen, if a female has too little, it results in a lesbian child. if a male has too much, the result will be a gay child. the effects do not take into effect UNTIL puberty. the child will really not know anything until they have sexually matured. so dont be a #ing asshat.



animal homosexually is very common.

[edit on 4-7-2004 by b0b]
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