Ancient Egyptians in Australia, page 1
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reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 12:38 AM by insite

"For two seasons he made his way westward, weary, but strong to the end. Always praying, joyful, and smiting insects. He, the servant of God, said God brought the insects…Have gone around hills and deserts, in wind and rain, with no lakes at hand… He was killed while carrying the Golden Falcon Standard up front in a foreign land, crossing mountains, desert and water along the way. "


First of all, why wouldnt the sailors cross the Indian Ocean? That seems like an incredible journey to go westward. You would have to go around Cape Horn into prevailing winds and then cross the largest lateral stretch of ocean in the world, past New Zealand to hit New South Wales.

These hyroglyphics were found in NSW right? There arent too many deserts in NSW and besides that NSW is on the east coast of Australia! This talks about how he travelled west for two seasons to end up in the heart of NSW (which isnt very far west).

Am I confused? I think I am. Which scenario took place?

1) The boat ride took two seasons to travel 2/3 the distance of the globe when they should have only taken a few months and gone east.

2)The trip to the center of NSW from the east coast took two seasons (100 miles maybe), and thats pretty sad.

3)The Egyptians DID go EAST on the boat and also EAST once they hit the west coast of Australia across all the deserts and brush and through the swarms of insects, the interpreter just got it wrong and thought they said "west" when they didn't.

Man I tore that thing up. Awesome article! I havent been that interested in a long time..

*EDIT: After reading ausconspiracies post about the 12 hour drive Scenario 2 looks pretty good. My geography of australia isnt as good as I thought. I have a question though. It takes someone about 12-14 hours to drive 1000 miles here on an American interstate. Australia isn't that big is it? 1000 miles across NSW? Your roads windy or two lane?

[Edited on 11-19-2003 by insite]


reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:29 AM by TheDemonHunter
Originally posted by THENEO
Wow cool stuff, new to me.

Quite possible, remember that ancient egypt was not all a desert as it appears today. The oceans were possibly smaller and more shallow in those times and travel may have been easier for the ancients. There may have been more land mass in the Atlantic and Pacific ocean areas also to land at during long journeys.


This idea is covered in the book "Underworld: The Mysterious Origins of Civilization," which I'm reading now. As an example, from 17,000 to 7000 years ago, Australia would have been joined with Tasmania and New Guinea into what amounts to an even larger continental land mass. (p.56)

Also of interest, and supporting the idea that Australia was visited by sea-faring people from across the globe, would be astronomical terminology that is common to other remote areas of the globe. According to information from Russian pre-historian Boris Frolov, indigenous tribal peoples from as far apart as North America, Siberia, and Australia all refer to the Pleiades star-group as "The Seven Sisters," which leads to further speculation of sea-going traffic between continents in prehistoric times.

The reason that nobody has found any remnants of these prehistoric sea-going Australian settlements is quite simple. There are over 3 million square kilometers of Greater Australia that were submerged by rising sea levels between 16,000 and 7,000 years ago. Where the coast is now, was once far inland. So coastal settlements of the era involved would now be on the ocean floor.

I'm only 120 pages into the book (out of 705, not including the index and reference notes), but I hope to make further progress over the next few weeks.


reply posted on 23-11-2003 @ 02:34 AM by TheDemonHunter
Originally posted by insite
Originally posted by TheDemonHunter
The reason that nobody has found any remnants of these prehistoric sea-going Australian settlements is quite simple. There are over 3 million square kilometers of Greater Australia that were submerged by rising sea levels between 16,000 and 7,000 years ago. Where the coast is now, was once far inland. So coastal settlements of the era involved would now be on the ocean floor.



Though your historical geography may be good, it does not really relate to the cultural aspects of early australian life. Aboriginals are some of the oldest people on the planet and are nomadic hunter gatherers. This means that structures were few and far between. Sea-going prehistoric settlements would just pick up and move inland with the encroaching sea. Aboriginals are nomads, water moving inland only gave them another reason to move. Keep in mind this took place over thousands of years, no cultural heritage would have been lost as a result of this geographic phenomenon.


The problem is that everyone looks at the end of an Ice Age as a gradual deal, where the waters from a glacier slowly melt off, run off into the ocean, and the seas rise a few feet a year. If it is as simple as that, then yes, there would have been no loss. I'lll agree with that.

This may not be the case however. There is another theory on how the Ice Age ended, still over a period of time, but causing far more devastating floods than just a couple of feet a year.

As soon as I can find a site to reference it, I'll post it. I'm getting it from a book published early last year. The research is still fairly new.


reply posted on 23-11-2003 @ 03:40 AM by TheDemonHunter
I found a site that has some info on what I'm talking about.

The Flood


[I]n 1975, Casare Emiliani, of the University of Miami, studies the fossil remnants of microscopic organisms under the sediments of the floor of the Gulf of Mexico. From his studies, he concluded that...[11,000] years ago,...the Gulf of Mexico contained water that was much less salty than it is today. He suggests that the ice sheets had undergone sudden melting and that a vast flood of water had entered the Gulf of Mexico and raised the sea level markedly.

The suggestion was largely ignored because it was difficult to imagine the ice melting that fast, but, in 1989, John Shaw...made a suggestion as to...how such floods might come about.

The region where once the ice sheets were found have a scattering of low hills called "drumlins." These are usually supposed to have been formed by [the] grinding action of glaciers as they came and went. Shaw, however, feels [that] they may, more easily, have been formed by a rush of water.

He suggests that the ice sheets did, indeed, melt very slowly but that the water did not necessarily run off, soak into the ground, pour into rivers and reach the sea as rapidly as it formed.

Instead, water might have slowly settled down to the bottom of the ice sheet, soaked into the ground until it reached the bedrock and slowly accumulated there. There would, thus, form what was, essentially, a lake of water under the ice sheet, and this would be prevented, by ice dams, from spreading outward.

Eventually, though, as the glaciers continued very slowly to melt, sections of the ice dam would waken and...break. The lake of ice water that had been pent up would then pour out seaward in a vast flood that beggars anything we can imagine.

Shaw has calculated that something like [20,000] cubic miles of water may have poured out of the ice all at once to form the drumlin fields of northern Saskatchewan....

The Amazon River, the largest on Earth, takes ten years to discharge [20,000] cubic miles of water into the Atlantic Ocean, but the ice lake may have discharged it in a matter of a few days only.


These sudden occurrences of "dam-breaking" release of sub-glacial waters could account for more sudden changes and for the flood story that nearly every civilization has.

This is closer to what I'm talking about.


reply posted on 16-12-2003 @ 08:34 AM by Byrd
MMMkay.... I do have some comments:

The cave glyphs at this site are a modern hoax:
members.ozemail.com.au...

Hieroglyphic writing was developed only 1800 years ago and we do have good examples of the oldest forms of it. Now, none of us are PhD Egyptologists but you don't need that kind of expertise to be able to look at the rock picture and the real hieroglyphs to see that the forms are wrong and they were drawn by someone who didn't understand anything about the writing. And that lower picture of Set is just dead wrong; something that a worshipper would never do (the shape of the ears are wrong and the shape of the muzzle is wrong and he's not carrying his attributes. But that wouldn't be important to someone scratching out Kewl Graffiti) : news.bbc.co.uk...

Furthermore, that's not the style of hieroglyphics they were using back then:
news.bbc.co.uk...

Lots of dubious interpretations here:
www.awarenessquest.com...

The Toowoomba "Inscribed Stones" are another hoax. Take a close look at the "writing." Now look at the REAL Phoenecian alphabet: www.geocities.com...

Some of the artifacts are genuine, but what's missing is real documentation. The "His papers seen to have mysteriously disapeared from The Australian Acadamy of Science Library in Canberra" doesn't count as documentation or proof.

Artifacts found in the field are easy to misintepret without a good exploration of the site by professionals who would know a real piece of Phoenecian writing from a faked one (something that doesn't seem to have been done.) For example, I found a scarab out on a piece of property here in Texas, buried in the dirt, but you shouldn't take it as a sign that the Egyptians had a voyage to Texas. It was a modern manufactured one and had been lost by someone and trampled into the mud.

However, a novice could have taken it as proof of all sorts of things.

I think the things on those pages need to be examined closely, but a lot of what's being reported there is just hoax or bad identification. The sad part about the bad identification is that it may be covering up REAL history.

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