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reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:25 PM by Russian

Originally posted by jetsetter
Here is a pic of the C-5

I did not pick it because it was too big. It can only land at air fields with big runways. (Dont type in caps). That is also why I do not like the big Russian trasports. They are too big for their own good.

First of all I was quoting the other shatter guy who typed in all caps.

Second of all he said that c-5 is the biggest plane and I proved him wrong.

reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:27 PM by jetsetter

Here is the biggest trasport. The An-225. An ugly #er eh?

reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:28 PM by jetsetter

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by jetsetter
Here is a pic of the C-5

I did not pick it because it was too big. It can only land at air fields with big runways. (Dont type in caps). That is also why I do not like the big Russian trasports. They are too big for their own good.

First of all I was quoting the other shatter guy who typed in all caps.

Second of all he said that c-5 is the biggest plane and I proved him wrong.

I was walking about the other guy too. I guess I was typing my post at the same time as yours because I could not see it.

reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:35 PM by Russian

Originally posted by jetsetter
Here is the biggest trasport. The An-225. An ugly #er eh?

An-225 Cossack Specifications
Primary Function: Cargo
Contractor: Antonov
Crew: Six
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
Six Lotarev turbofans D-18T engines at 51,590 lb (23,370 kg) each
Dimensions
Length: 275 feet, 7 in (84.0m)
Wingspan: 290 feet (88.4m)
Height: 59 feet, 5 in (18.2m)
Weights
Empty: 250,5 tons
Maximum Takeoff: 1,322,750 lb (600,000kg)
Performance
Speed: 528 mph (850km/h)
Ceiling: N/A
Range: 8,310 nm (15,400km) -- with maximum fuel
Armament
N/A

An-225 Cossack Achievements
Portions of a second An-225 have been built, but to this day only one has ever flown -- breaking numerous records.
The An-225 is the largest aircraft in the world; with a wingspan of 290 feet and a length of 275 ft 7 inches.

An-225 Cossack Background
The An-225 Cossack holds the current world record for the largest aircraft in the world, yet has never gone into full production and probably never will. The An-225 is a six-engine development of the An-124 designed to carry the Soviet 'Buran' space shuttle on its back. A new central wing section with two more engines was inserted, twin tail fins were fitted, the landing gear was reinforced and dorsal attachment points were added. The Buran program was abandoned, and the An-225 has been grounded. The first An-225 prototype flew on 21 December 1988.

It was the biggest but know it is not flown so it deosnt count.

But yes it is the biggest and it does look VERY nice!

reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:42 PM by jetsetter

Do you know how much cargo it could carry?

reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:47 PM by Russian

Originally posted by jetsetter
Do you know how much cargo it could carry?

I will find out but for know I got to go.

reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 09:49 PM by jetsetter

O never mind. I found it. It can carry 551,150 pounds of cargo.

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 08:01 PM by ShatteredSkies

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
O YA I GOT SOMETHING THAT WILL BEAT ALL YAS AIRCRAFT! THE C-5 GALAXY TRANSPORT! THE LARGEST TRANSPORT PLANE IN THE FREAKIN SOLAR SYSTEM! YOU CAN TAKE OFF USE THE SAME PLANE FIRST FLOWN IN 1903 AND STILL LAND IN THE C-5's HULL!Brought to you by Lockheed! Since 1969 till today.Heres a pic with some info too.(i hope)

Sorry to blow the bubble!

An-124 was created in the tradition of An-22 to be the largest transport aircraft in the world. It is larger than the C-5B Galaxy, but smaller than the An-225 Mriya (NATO named Cossack) which carries the Russian space shuttle. The first prototype (SSSR 82002, Number 318) flew on December 26, 1982. The wings are high-mounted, swept-back, and tapered with curved tips and negative slant. Four turbofans are mounted on pylons under the wings. The fuselage is a thick oval in cross-section with a rounded nose and tapering to the rear. The tail fin is swept-back and tapered with rounded tips. Flats are swept-back, tapered, and mid-mounted on the body.

READ my POST CAREFUL!

And you look like you are pissed at everyone.

We dont care SO GET LOST!

you

[Edited on 18-11-2003 by Russian]

Im sry i angered everyone, im always the new guy who gets blamed for everything possible, i mean i would get blamed for something i didnt even do, your right i should get lost, i should just go jump off a bridge or just shoot my self in the head to try and test if anyone would care wether im dead or not and well you guys dont have my vote. maybe i should turn into a desk nerd and give up my love for aviation make everyone alot happier(atleast i would be thinking of someone else) and if you knew me in person you would know im not the type to get in trouble im just annoying but im giving, heck this kid in gym class sometime ago asked me to go fold his jacket and put it on top of his backpack and i did in front of the entire class making a fool of myself, and i did it for the meaniest dumbest mental patient in this side of the country.well i just wanted to say that you can count on me never again to post anything cause ive been broken too much and im not going to be broken here.(i get enough of it at home and at where ever ago)so goodbye my felllow man maybe ill get some common sense and not to let anyone walk all over me.
PS who the heck are you russian to say what i must or must not do? you dont control me. noone does and i would die before taking orders from you.

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by ShatteredSkies]

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 08:12 PM by sirCyco

I think some helicopters have their part in the best transport category...

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:31 PM by Russian

Originally posted by ShatteredSkies

Im sry i angered everyone, im always the new guy who gets blamed for everything possible, i mean i would get blamed for something i didnt even do, your right i should get lost, i should just go jump off a bridge or just shoot my self in the head to try and test if anyone would care wether im dead or not and well you guys dont have my vote. maybe i should turn into a desk nerd and give up my love for aviation make everyone alot happier(atleast i would be thinking of someone else) and if you knew me in person you would know im not the type to get in trouble im just annoying but im giving, heck this kid in gym class sometime ago asked me to go fold his jacket and put it on top of his backpack and i did in front of the entire class making a fool of myself, and i did it for the meaniest dumbest mental patient in this side of the country.well i just wanted to say that you can count on me never again to post anything cause ive been broken too much and im not going to be broken here.(i get enough of it at home and at where ever ago)so goodbye my felllow man maybe ill get some common sense and not to let anyone walk all over me.
PS who the heck are you russian to say what i must or must not do? you dont control me. noone does and i would die before taking orders from you.

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by ShatteredSkies]

I didnt say you have to stop posting all I said is that you are pissed at everyone.

You try prove everyone wrong and you yell(caps) all over the aircraft forum about how everyone is stupid(f-22 vs. eurofighter vs. su-47)

i got nothing against you if you become a person and not an ass.

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:38 PM by Pherophile

Originally posted by jetsetter
Here is a pic of the C-5

I did not pick it because it was too big. It can only land at air fields with big runways. (Dont type in caps). That is also why I do not like the big Russian trasports. They are too big for their own good.

Quote from people looking at this plane:

Officer one: "Hey, is that a transport up there?"
Officer two: Squinting. "No, look carefully, its just assorted dirt, shrubbery, and a few trees that are flying."
Officer one: "Oh, ok. Don't shoot down the flying foliage guys!"

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:39 PM by Russian

Originally posted by sirCyco
I think some helicopters have their part in the best transport category...

Yes helicopters are part of the transport

For example world largest helicopter MI-26 Halo

category.Crew/passengers 5/82
Rotor's diameter 32
The number of blades 8-main rotors +5 anti-torque rotors
Weights and loaded (kg):
Maximum take-off weight 56 000
Normal take-off weight 49 500
Base weight without load 28 150
The weight of maximum load 20 000
Total fuel capacity in main tanks, in liters 12 000
Aircraft performance characteristics:
Maximum speed 295 km\h
Course speed 250 km\h
Static ceiling 1,800 m
Dynamic ceiling 4,600 m
Operational range 590 km
Ferry range 1,920 km

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:41 PM by Russian

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:51 PM by jetsetter

I would have to say that in helicopter transports the US is got it down.

The CH-46 Seanight

Primary Function: Medium lift assault helicopter
Contractor: Boeing Vertol Company
Crew: Normal: 4 - pilot, copilot, crew chief, and 1st mechanic
Combat: 5 - pilot, copilot, crew chief, and 2 aerial gunners
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
Two GE-T58-16 engines at 1770 SHP
Dimensions
Length: Rotors unfolded: 84 feet, 4 inches (25.69 meters)
Rotors folded: 45 feet, 7.5 inches (13.89 meters)
Rotor Diameter: 50 feet (15.24 m) each -- CH-46E
Height: 16 feet, 8 inches (5.08 meters)
Weights
Empty: 11,585 lb (5255 kg) -- CH-46E
Maximum Takeoff: 24,300 pounds (11,032 kilograms)
Performance
Speed: 145 knots (166.75 mph)
Ceiling: 10,000+ feet
Range: 132 nautical miles (151.8 miles) for an assault mission
Armament
N/A

And the CH-47 Chinook

Primary Function: Medium-lift helicopter
Contractor: Boeing
Crew: Cockpit-crew seats: 2
Cabin-troop seats/litters: 33/24
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
Two Textron Lycoming T55-L-712 turboshafts each rated at 3,750 shp for takeoff and 3,000 shp for coninuous running
Dimensions
Length: 98ft 10.75 in
Rotor Diameter: 60 feet (18.29 m) each -- CH-47D
Height: 18 ft 11 in
Weights
Empty: 22,379 lb
Maximum Takeoff: 50,000 lb
Performance
Speed: 159 mph (cruising)
Ceiling: 22,100 ft
Range: N/A
Armament
N/A

CH-53 Sea Stallion

Primary Function: Multirole heavy lifter/minesweeper
Contractor: Sikorsky Aircraft Corp.
Crew: Two pilots; one to six aircrewman, depending on mission.
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
Three General Electric T64-GE-416 turboshaft engines (4,380 HP (3,266 kW) each)
Dimensions
Length: 99 ft (30.19 m)
Rotor Diameter: 79 ft (24.08 m)
Height: 28,4 ft (8.66 m)
Weights
Empty: 33,226 lb (15,071 kg)
Maximum Takeoff: 69,750 lb (31,640 kg) -- internal cargo
Performance
Speed: 195 mph (315 km/h)
Ceiling: 18,500 ft (5,640 m)
Range: 1,290 miles (2,076 km)
Armament
None; possible window mount provisions 7.62 mm and .50 CAL weapons or AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles

CH-54 Skycrane

Primary Function: Heavy-lift crane helicoptor
Contractor: Sikorsky
Crew: Pilot, Co-Pilot, 3rd aft pilot
Unit Cost: N/A
Powerplant
Two Pratt & Whitney JFTD12-5A turboshaft engines at 4800 hp each

Dimensions
Length: 88' 6" (26.9 m)
Rotor diameter: 72ft (21.95m)
Height: 18' 7" (5.6 m)
Weights
Payload: 20,000 lb
Maximum Takeoff: 47,000 lb
Performance
Speed: 105 mph (169 km/h)
Ceiling: N/A
Range: 230 mi (370 km)
Armament
N/A

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by jetsetter]

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:55 PM by Russian

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by Russian]

reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 09:57 PM by jetsetter

Yes that is one of my favorite helicopters.

reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 05:25 PM by FULCRUM

An-124 and 225..

There is no doubt about it..

Even US and NATO rent theirs services for operations..

From Russians..

An-225 with Buran..

The US military chartered this Ukrainian Antonov An-225 - world's largest plane - to transport food and supplies for the US troops in Afghanistan. This was the first commercial use of this giant aircraft originally developed for the Soviet space program to transport the space shuttle Buran.

reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 05:29 PM by FULCRUM

What are most widely used..

These will be C-130 and Mi-8/17..

(Plane/Helicopter..)

reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 08:08 PM by ShatteredSkies

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by ShatteredSkies

Im sry i angered everyone, im always the new guy who gets blamed for everything possible, i mean i would get blamed for something i didnt even do, your right i should get lost, i should just go jump off a bridge or just shoot my self in the head to try and test if anyone would care wether im dead or not and well you guys dont have my vote. maybe i should turn into a desk nerd and give up my love for aviation make everyone alot happier(atleast i would be thinking of someone else) and if you knew me in person you would know im not the type to get in trouble im just annoying but im giving, heck this kid in gym class sometime ago asked me to go fold his jacket and put it on top of his backpack and i did in front of the entire class making a fool of myself, and i did it for the meaniest dumbest mental patient in this side of the country.well i just wanted to say that you can count on me never again to post anything cause ive been broken too much and im not going to be broken here.(i get enough of it at home and at where ever ago)so goodbye my felllow man maybe ill get some common sense and not to let anyone walk all over me.
PS who the heck are you russian to say what i must or must not do? you dont control me. noone does and i would die before taking orders from you.

[Edited on 19-11-2003 by ShatteredSkies]

I didnt say you have to stop posting all I said is that you are pissed at everyone.

You try prove everyone wrong and you yell(caps) all over the aircraft forum about how everyone is stupid(f-22 vs. eurofighter vs. su-47)

i got nothing against you if you become a person and not an ass.

ok im sry but i wasnt mad at everyone i was just mad at the post not the ppl, remember there arent stupid answers, just stupid questions

reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 09:13 PM by Seekerof

AC-X Replacement Gunship:
www.globalsecurity.org...

Small article:
"In late December 2001 a Department of Defense Program Budget Decision (PBD) called for purchasing at least eight additional AC-130U Spooky gunships, and initiating work on a possible replacement gunship aircraft. The PBD added funding to accelerate and fully fund an Advanced Concept Technology Demonstration for the AC(X) aircraft. The AC(X) could be either a further upgrade to the existing AC-130 an entirely new follow-on system. A formal procurement program for the AC(X) was expected to begin in Fiscal Year 2005 (FY05).

Special operators want the new gunship, or AC-X, to be much smaller than a C-130, with fewer crew members. They want it to be stealthy, with the speed and maneuverability of a long-range jet fighter. They want it equipped with directed energy weapons and non-lethal technologies, and it should be able to engage targets from any angle-above and below, front and back."

regards
seekerof

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