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Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
And a return SU-FI my friend.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
We don't discuss sordid details, but what most of you fail to realize is that there is always a discussion/conversation going on behind the scenes between the problem members and staff.
We work as a team around here and several moderators and staff on various levels all give input, try their methods of communication, etc, before action is taken. In the case of the above mentioned member it comes right back to being polite.
We do not tolerate blatant verbal abuse, derogatory statements, and cursing directed to any of our staff or members.
It usually starts with just a warn, followed by several u2's, still sometimes people just fail to see the error of their ways and fail to be polite when defending themselves.
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
Once a member has been banned, should not the remaining members be made privy to the full cause for that banning... including, at least, the means to sort through the sordid details and behinds the scences discussion that occured?
Perhaps a Forum dedicated to banned members... with cited references to their offences? Or is this Guantanamo?
I'll give you that Binbush was a sarcastic, 20 year old male, who's language was full of self censored cursing and intimidation drama. His character was representitive of immaturity and a lack of self esteem; it could have been nurtured, rather than ousted, by the supposed enlightened higher authority of moderation.
I have sat handcuffed, in the back of a police car, several times following otherwise peaceful protest for that exact lack of tolerance.
Why can it not start with other members sliding a bar that represents a continuum from verbally offensive to polite, regarding their opinion of the offenders verbage. As the average member opinion drops below a threshold the offender would get an automatically generated u2u letting them know that some members find their language offensive.
I guess my point is, what happens 18 months from now when DickBinBush learns the errors of his ways with regard to his sarcasm... slows it down a bit and becomes more tolerable.
Also... please do not feel like I am disrailing this thread entirely to "get back binbush", etc. as I only site that specific case as example of a larger phenomenon which I feel needs corrected.
Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
By being polite and accepting your actions (ie. I called someone a name and I earned a warn flag for a few days) then usually there is no problem.
Originally posted by Sri Oracle
I guess my point is, what happens 18 months from now when DickBinBush learns the errors of his ways with regard to his sarcasm... slows it down a bit and becomes more tolerable. He had a lot to say and many good ideas, even though he lacked maturity.
The current system does not seem to allow for one to grow in maturity; once you're banned, you're gone; at least as that "character".
I only site that specific case as example of a larger phenomenon which I feel needs corrected.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Participation in ATS - BTS - PTS, on nearly any topic, is very easy -- all you need to do is be polite.
You know the world has gone bad when you have to tell members to be polite on a forum. It's no longer a basic insinct anymore, is it? Thank you for the reminder Skeptic.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlordVery often there are removed posts, threads, and unproductive private exchanges. This was indeed the case with the member you indicated, and he was already on thin ice before the incident you mentioned.
Well said Speaker Of Truth,I too have said some nasty things that I should have been flagged for.But I later apologized for what I said.And yes the Mods here are very understanding.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
We make a big deal out of this, but all and all, the moderators are pretty lenient. It has to be pretty extreme before most moderators will flag you. There have been times when, admittedly I have said some things that I might should have been flagged for, but most of the moderators here seem to have a pretty discerning eye when it comes to figuring out what is going on.
Moderators here are pretty understanding.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
2) Recruit for Online or Offline Causes
While our members often discuss several causes, groups, and events that are worthy of the attention of our members, we've elected to preserve the site's agnostic stance by not allowing any recruitment of any type.