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Topic started on 17-12-2006 @ 05:49 PM by RedGolem
The drug maker, Eli Lilly is said to be playing down the risks of its top drug Zyprexa. It is a drug for schizophrenia. It is being said that Lilly kept important information from doctors concerning the drug Zyprexa.
The documents, given to The Times by a lawyer representing mentally ill patients, show that Lilly executives kept important information from doctors about Zyprexa’s links to obesity and its tendency to raise blood sugar — both known risk factors for diabetes.

Lilly’s own published data, which it told its sales representatives to play down in conversations with doctors, has shown that 30 percent of patients taking Zyprexa gain 22 pounds or more after a year on the drug, and some patients have reported gaining 100 pounds or more. But Lilly was concerned that Zyprexa’s sales would be hurt if the company was more forthright about the fact that the drug might cause unmanageable weight gain or diabetes, according to the documents, which cover the period 1995 to 2004.


In some cases the drug is also being said to cause death.
I always knew that Eli Lilly was hiding the truth; the truth that their "blockbuster" drug Zyprexa could cause diabetes, and could kill people as it killed my son. Yet, to read about it today in an article by Alex Berenson in the New York Times still turns my stomach. I got an email from Lilly, trying desperately to do damage control, and shaking a stick at the wonderful lawyer that got this information out to the public. Lilly may huff and puff, but they can't blow this house down.


I am sure most every has heard of the disproportionately high profits made by the drug companies. To my knowledge they are only rivaled by the oil companies. It has been said by some that the drug companies don't want the populace to be health. The sicker we are the more drugs we will take. I don't know if this is a good example of that or not, but I do know we need all the information we can get.

edited for spelling

[edit on 17-12-2006 by RedGolem]


reply posted on 31-12-2006 @ 04:54 PM by wantsome
Originally posted by Murphs
Weight gain is a common side effect of most anti-psychotic medication.
To me that is not a major side-effect..I am a psych nurse and have been for 18 years.
I was involved with the trials of Olanzapine (Zprexa) in this country..
I didn't see it work and I am glad it has worked for wantsome.
It works for the mildly psychotic. Depressive etc. but not in a full blown manic, schizophrenic illness.
It is a maintanance drug and not a very good one at that. If you can get someone stabilised with "traditional" medication, then start Olanzapine. It can work but not always.
It is another one of Eli Lilleys wonder drugs...Prozac is another one..It only works for the *sad* not the the really depressed..Even then the side effects outweigh the benefits..It leaves people lifeless, numb, emotionless.
I will say my findings are not scientific but anecdotal. I know GP's and Psychiatrists over here chose others now..
I beg to differ on the effectiveness of Zyprexa. When I came down with schizophrenia I was quite sick. I had severe hallucinations dellusions and psychotic symtoms. I had no sence of reality I wasn't eating or sleeping. At my worst I thought people were poisening my food so I wouldn't eat. At one point I didn't eat for a week or drink water for 3 days. I was so far gone my family never thought I'd be half way normal again. I was sleeping with a shotgun because I thought the voices were out to get me. I did'nt leave my house for 9 months.

When I was first hospitalized I thought the meds they were giving me were poisen. I went as far as to stick my finger down my throat and vomit them back up. They ended up giving me a masive injection of Haldol. It stopped the hallucinations fast but the side effects were horrible. I was sleeping 23 hours a day and I was a walking zombie. I was hospitalized for 3 months and my diagnosses is paranoid schizoeffective dissorder (Bipolar and shcizophrenia).

When I got out of the hospital I quit all the meds I was taking and started on Zyprexa. I was fine for a year but still had some hallucinations. One day I figured I didnt need it anymore so I quit taking it. I ended up going through another psychotic break and ended up back in the hospital.

When I got out I went back on Zyprexa. I had hallucinations for the first four or five years. But slowly over time they have diminished. Its been 10 years and now I hardly ever have hallucinations but I still take Zyprexa.

Some meds are more effective then others for people, and one med that works for someone might not work for another. I feel very forutenette not to hear voices at this time but I know if it werent for Zyprexa I might not be where I am.

I recently moved to a new house and I have a neighbor with this illness and he is far from where I am and he is on a whole cocktail of meds and still hears voices. He reminds me of myself when I was sick. I was in just as bad of shape but yet I can now function to a higher digree.

I belive thier are many factors involved when it comes to recovery from schizoprenia. From what I've read is those that get help and medication early on in the developemet of this illness have a better outcome. Because the longer someone goes without treatment the more braindamage they suffer. I also read that those that quit taking thier meds everytime they have a relapse it gets harder and harder to get their symtoms back under control.

I feel the longer I stick with my treatment the less paranoia I have. But If I had a million dollars I'd bet if I quit taking my medication I'd have a severe relapse.

Thier are no marical cures for schizophrenia but Zyprexa does work. It might not work for everyone but it does for me. I don't know what country your from but I feel sorry for your patients especialy if thier on Haldol.



reply posted on 1-1-2007 @ 05:37 PM by wantsome
Originally posted by Murphs
Wantsome
If you read my posts I said I was glad it worked for you..
I truely am glad but it works for very few and I am happy it works for you. I am glad you have recovered.
It is one of those drugs that may work or may not and unfortunatly it doesn't 9/10. Your are lucky.
I am from Ireland and Haldol is still prescribed but only for those patients who have been on it for years and have no effects and it keeps them stable..Abit like Chlorpromazine.
NO new patients will ever be prescribed Haloperidol..The side-effects are too bad.
I am glad, really glad you aren't on Haloperidol anymore. Thoridazine (thorazine) isn't prescribed here anymore..At all.!
Over here for rapid tranquilization of a very disturbed patient and I mean VERY disturbed we use a 10/4. Which is 10mg of droperidol and 4mg of Lorazepam by injection. On occassion we will use 10mg diazepam IV..
Mostly we use minimal physical restraint..Nurses holding down while the person(nurse) at the head, talks and calms..It works..
We don't use strait jackets, padded cells or any form of prolonged physical restraint..cuffs, tying down etc..They are illegal.
Risperidol and seroquel are the anti-psychotics of choice now..Minimal side-effects, maximum effects.
Everyone is allowed to get angry and vent..We allow that! Only if they are consistantly dangerous to others do we over medicate..
I apoligize, I took what you said out of context. I was thinking you were questioning the seroiusness of my condition because I take Zyprexa. As if Zyprexa wasnt a effective medicaion or maybe my illness wasnt severe.


reply posted on 3-1-2007 @ 06:51 AM by Murphs
Originally posted by wantsome
Originally posted by Murphs
Wantsome
If you read my posts I said I was glad it worked for you..
I truely am glad but it works for very few and I am happy it works for you. I am glad you have recovered.
It is one of those drugs that may work or may not and unfortunatly it doesn't 9/10. Your are lucky.
I am from Ireland and Haldol is still prescribed but only for those patients who have been on it for years and have no effects and it keeps them stable..Abit like Chlorpromazine.
NO new patients will ever be prescribed Haloperidol..The side-effects are too bad.
I am glad, really glad you aren't on Haloperidol anymore. Thoridazine (thorazine) isn't prescribed here anymore..At all.!
Over here for rapid tranquilization of a very disturbed patient and I mean VERY disturbed we use a 10/4. Which is 10mg of droperidol and 4mg of Lorazepam by injection. On occassion we will use 10mg diazepam IV..
Mostly we use minimal physical restraint..Nurses holding down while the person(nurse) at the head, talks and calms..It works..
We don't use strait jackets, padded cells or any form of prolonged physical restraint..cuffs, tying down etc..They are illegal.
Risperidol and seroquel are the anti-psychotics of choice now..Minimal side-effects, maximum effects.
Everyone is allowed to get angry and vent..We allow that! Only if they are consistantly dangerous to others do we over medicate..
I apoligize, I took what you said out of context. I was thinking you were questioning the seroiusness of my condition because I take Zyprexa. As if Zyprexa wasnt a effective medicaion or maybe my illness wasnt severe.


It's OK..It's easy to get confused or pick things up wrong on the internet..I do it all the time and have to creep back and apologise
Stay well.
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