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Originally posted by NowAmFound
since i know you don't understand:
love is complete submission and service.
Originally posted by NowAmFound
since i know you don't understand: love is complete submission and service.
If the topic is aimed at Non christians then my belief is necessary but you cleared it up by stating that you and the other christians believe that your god gave me abilities.
Originally posted by kinglizard
Originally posted by shihulud
Eh NO!!! Neither yours nor anyone elses god gave me the ability for anything.
Yes, “I BELIEVE”, “Christians believe”, that God gave you the ability to believe that. Your belief is not necessary in this case.
No problem, What I am saying is why should we follow, study or read the NT to live a similar moral and ethical life without following any religious text?
Dumb it down for me will ya.
Would that be your or my interpretation of a learned teacher?
Originally posted by shihulud
The values in the NT can be and are lived by WITHOUT even reading the NT.
Yes and you can discover mathematics on your own but most people find that listening to a learned teacher speeds that process up a bit.
This may be so, but 'words of wisdom' can be found in many texts, so why should the NT have the greater monopoly???
Originally posted by yeahright
Which I believe is accurate, if irrelevant. The point was to find beneficial passages, "words of wisdom" applicable to anyone, Christian believer or not. The fact that universal truths can indeed be found, um...universally, isn't a shock.
Originally posted by shihulud
If the topic is aimed at Non Christians then my belief is necessary but you cleared it up by stating that you and the other Christians believe that your god gave me abilities.
Originally posted by shihulud
No problem, What I am saying is why should we follow, study or read the NT to live a similar moral and ethical life without following any religious text?
Originally posted by shihulud
Would that be your or my interpretation of a learned teacher?
Well, your title is a little misleading if this is your purpose, as Im a non christian but have no intention of following the NT.
Originally posted by kinglizard
Originally posted by shihulud
If the topic is aimed at Non Christians then my belief is necessary but you cleared it up by stating that you and the other Christians believe that your god gave me abilities.
No, the point of this thread (as I've mentioned 1000 times) is to quote the verses that are good for anyone to follow, the verses that require NO faith.
Originally posted by shihulud
Well, your title is a little misleading if this is your purpose
Originally posted by shihulud
Im a non christian but have no intention of following the NT.
Originally posted by shihulud
However, I could possibly find in these books quotes that require no faith but I could just as easily use any book so my point would be why follow the NT when other texts are just as useful?
Originally posted by kinglizard
Originally posted by shihulud
Well, your title is a little misleading if this is your purpose
If the title is misleading to you the opening post should have cleared things up.
The purpose has been mentioned 1000 times, over and over it's been mentioned. If you fail to read or understand that I won't argue because one only need to read the thread to realize it.