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There is nothing new in a government lying to their people to start a war. Indeed because most people prefer living in peace to bloody and horrific death in war, any government that desires to initiate a war usually lies to their people to create the illusion that support for the war is the only possible choice they can make.
President McKinley told the American people that the USS Maine had been sunk in Havana Harbor by a Spanish mine. The American people, outraged by this apparent unprovoked attack, supported the Spanish American War. The Captain of the USS Maine had insisted the ship was sunk by a coal bin explosion, investigations after the war proved that such had indeed been the case. There had been no mine.
Hitler used this principle of lying to his own people to initiate an invasion. He told the people of Germany that Poland had attacked first and staged fake attacks against German targets. The Germans, convinced they were being threatened, followed Hitler into Poland and into World War 2.
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
you guys, this is all besides the point at the moment. No amount of anti-war threads can turn the ship around now, it's too little too late.
If it were a simple matter of just leaving, Im sure we would. It is no longer that simple. We risk having a worse dictator than saddam hussein in power if we leave now. Not to mention the fact that Israel wont be too happy because Iraq will become the puppet of Iran and that is just one step closer to their doorstep.
The really sad thing is that the war was to ease an economic recession. No one really believed that Iraq was a threat, but most people could see the writing on the wall.
Originally posted by frozen_snowman
That is the reason that "War Crimes" have been invented.
Make some rules what would not be "appropriate" in a warfare and take them before court.
That is to cover up that in fact the "War" in itself is a crime.
It also gets very funny when same one calls the invasion into another Country a "Freedom Agenda".
Just some thoughts
Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
Right on! Excellent post!
The only thing Iâ€™d like to mention, is that ALL OF US should have recognized that the grounds for going to Iraq were bogus. Even if you believed the entire official story of 9-11, thenâ€¦
1. Not a single highjacker was Iraqi
2. Osama Bin Laden is, err was, portrayed as a radical fundamentalist, a â€˜bearded weirdiâ€™. And Sadam Hussein is a secular wanna-be seventies-style â€˜playboyâ€™ who dressed in British military uniforms or western business attire. The two are pretty much polar opposites. They would not have â€˜gotten along with each otherâ€™ to say the least.
3. All the â€˜evidenceâ€™ of WMD in Iraq had to be lies. Since Colin Powell steadfastly refused to tip off any of the weapons inspectors of their purported locations. His excuse of not being able to compromise his â€˜sourcesâ€™ made no sense. Except that it proved a) there were no WMD or b) we wanted to go to war no matter what, i.e. we werenâ€™t interested in finding WMD.
4. Colin Powell talked about anthrax as a possible threat from Iraq. Whilst we all knew that the only previously known anthrax attacks were on U.S. soil with anthrax coming from U.S. labs. If that isnâ€™t the kettle calling the pot black!
The Wizard In The Woods