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reply posted on 7-1-2008 @ 01:15 PM by citizen smith
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A Barnett slingshot (and a few spare elastics) for starters (i'd also recommend as a projectile weapon for those who love their firearms too just in
case you run out of ammo)...silent, powerful enough to kill small/medium game if you practice target-shooting enough to get headshots with a marble at
50-100yds and as long as your projectile is 'roughly aerodynamic' you can use anything from pebbles to metal screw-bolts to marbles and dud bullets
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reply posted on 7-1-2008 @ 02:16 PM by biggie smalls
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At the moment I do not own any firearms. I do have a survival knife and survival camping shovel...
Luckily Arizona does not have gun licensing so I can pickup a weapon when I need to...Aside from a concealed weapon. That needs a permit
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reply posted on 7-1-2008 @ 07:32 PM by 1ShotDeal
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Helllllo Arizona,
I live in Tombstone sorta a ways outside of actualy.
I love a right to carry state. Although I have to admit it took some adjustment to get used to seeinbg folks walking around with a holsterd pistola
on thier belt.
Now that i'm acclimated I can't think of a better way to deter trouble. LOL
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 06:29 AM by Nailer
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Originally posted by DeusEx
Originally posted by crgintx
Find or making good wire and spring steel to make springs is usually the hardest tasks. 
Dunno about wire, but cars, specifically have pretty good amounts of spring steel in them. Think about it- every tire is hung on how many pounds of
the stuff? Leaf springs can probably be mutilated pretty good for that purpose. Just a thought- I'm a crunchie, not an engineer.
DE 
We used to make Homemade crossbows using Cars leaf springs. Talk about power. It would wad up a aluminum shaft arrow when fired ,so you had to use
wood shaft arrows.
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 06:36 AM by citizen smith
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Originally posted by Nailer
We used to make Homemade crossbows using Cars leaf springs. Talk about power. It would wad up a aluminum shaft arrow when fired ,so you had to use
wood shaft arrows. 
Dyou have any drawings or plans on your car-leaf-sprung crossbows? I've often wondered what kind of power such a device would have...more on the
scale of a Ballista rather than portable x-bow I would have thought
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reply posted on 8-1-2008 @ 12:28 PM by gotrox
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I have no firearms, those I did have are long gone. No bows or mace either, and the only hammer I have is a rubber mallet.
I also always drive sober and at the posted limit, never read or post anything remotely subversive or against any current political leader or
position, and greatfully submit to any request by any officer of any enforcement/investigative/other department.
NOT!
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 07:12 PM by downtown436
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My arsenal includes.......
Oh wait, I forgot I have 0 guns. Just a steak knife or 2.
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reply posted on 13-1-2008 @ 07:15 PM by downtown436
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Oh and I just wanted to add, I love the BATFE, and the Bush administration, and what ever administration that is elected by the people of this great
country. Owning guns is completely unneeded in these times of total safety, and protection by Big Brother.
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reply posted on 14-1-2008 @ 09:52 PM by craig732
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Originally posted by snafu7700
the .223 is not well suited for hunting 
I always scratch my head when I hear people say this.
I have been hunting with a .223 (Ruger Mini 14) for many years.
If the .223 round is the prefered round of NATO to kill people, what makes anyone think you can't easily drop big game with it? It is all about
using the proper round and practice.
Although for moose or caribou you probably would want a bigger round.
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reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 09:42 AM by LLoyd45
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My thoughts tend to run in the same vein as TinHatMan. I chose the Hi-point 995 carbine and the C9 pistol as the foundation of my TEOWAWKI arsenal. My
primary goal was to select two weapons that every member of my family could use. Most of my long guns and large calibre pistols were unsuitable do to
their length of pull. Shorter individuals have a really tough time with most standard size rifles, shotguns, and pistols.
Although inexpensive weapons, they're 100% reliable, simple in construction, the magazines are interchangeble, and the 9mm round is readily available
and of a NATO calibre. You can pickup the pair for under $300 which should fit in with anybody's budget.
In additon to these two guns, a Henry U.S Survival rife in .22 calibre rounds out my survival arsenal nicely. It breaks down into an easily stowed
package, and the ammunition is light, plentiful, and cheap.
Just add a good survival knife, a manageable sized BOB, and you should be good to go on a moments notice.
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reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 09:47 AM by thisguyrighthere
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I've done the same thing with a CX4 and Beretta 92. Interchangeable mags, cheap readily available ammo and everyone, man, woman and child can shoot
them well.
Plus, the smaller and lighter the arms the more ammo I can carry out with me should I need to abandon my home.
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reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 09:54 AM by jdposey
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Well, if we are going to be invaded by Aliens, and Reptillian likes, as seems to be running through these threads, I can't say there is anything in
your stockpile that will be of any good.
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reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 12:10 PM by LLoyd45
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The CX4 and the model 92 are both excellent choices. I considered the same combo, but my finances at the time wouldn't permit it, so I went with my
second best choice which were the Hi-Points.
Another thing I forgot to mention is to stock up on ammo. You should have at least 1,000 rounds for each rifle, and a mininimum of 200 for each
handgun. As for the .22, it's cheap ($10 for 550 rounds at Wal Mart), so stock up as much as you can.
A .22 rifle is more than adequate to feed your family, and a in a tight spot can double as a defensive weapon. Realistically, nobody wants to get
shot, even by a .22! In a EOTWAWKI scenario with limited healthcare available, even a small cut could be deadly.
The name of the game is survival not War. Your best weapon is your brain. Keep things as simple as possible, keep things light, avoid unnecessary
contact with other groups, prepare to be mobile at a moments notice, and pray that you haven't overlooked any critical details.
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reply posted on 18-1-2008 @ 12:47 PM by kozmo
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Here's mine... Simple, funtional and one for every occassion.
I have a Mossberg 590A1-mil 12 guage tactical shotty with a Knoxx Specops stock and Hogue Grip and forend. Here is a
picture however the stock and forend are modified with the Knoxx Industries
system... pictured here. I seriously recommend this for anyone with a shotty.
Another of my babies is the Sig 556. I LOVE
this rifle. I know, I know... it's not a 7.62 but it is NATO 5.56 and can chamber a standard .223 round as well. FANTASTIC for survival situations
due to it's a.) range, b.) versatility of rounds and over-all availability of ammo and c.) accuracy.
And finally, I have a Sig P239 as my sidearm. I
purchased it chambered for the .40 S&W. I'm not a 9mm fan and .357 just didn't tickle me. It's got nite sites, is nice and compact and it has
rounded features for easy CCW - it won't snag the holster when drawing from a concealed location. The only downside is that the barrel is shorter
than it's cousin the P229 which costs a bit in accuracy - so I'm told but I haven't noticed it. Perfectly balanced and incredible recovery!
So, there you go - a CQB weapon in the shotty. A ranged weapon in the Sig 556 and a personal defense weapon in the Sig 239. I think I have my bases
pretty well covered.
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