West Nile Virus reservoir in Mexico

West Nile Virus has showed up in Mexico, and unlike the US, there's no "killing season" where cold eliminates the mosquito population. This provides a "reservoir" here in the Western Hemisphere where the virus can re-emerge and re-emerge every year.

www.nature.com...

Eventually, and I mean in quite awhile, Humans will develop a natural immunity to the disease like we did with the common cold. Well, we would not be immune, but our bodies would have better defence against the disease...... you get the picture.

Originally posted by Canuck
Eventually, and I mean in quite awhile, Humans will develop a natural immunity to the disease like we did with the common cold. Well, we would not be immune, but our bodies would have better defence against the disease...... you get the picture.

Numerous people here in Colorado have already died from the virus...guess they weren't immune..eh? I knew a couple of them...and others who had it and after recovering from it..they looked like walking death. It's scary to go outside and hear a buzzing sound in the summer time here. Might be a conspiracy to keep us inside our homes...you think?

Ok, what part of my post did you not understand?
the Eventually part?
How bout "and I mean in quite awhile"?

I live in an area that has Mosquitos carrying west nile as well. People die, it's a fact of life.

Evolution does not happen overnight, guy.
The more people that survive the disease and have children, the less people will be infected with the disease in the future.
I'd wager that your friends that survived cannot be infected again, or atleast, not as easily.

Where I live, we just don't worry about it.
There's too many mosquito's to watch out for everyone of them.

If your that afraid of it, quit b!tching like your friends are martyrs and buy some bug repellant.

This thread is not the place to start an evolution debate. Nothing has ever evolved into a better organism...always to the worse. Get real.

Evolution is very real and takes a long, long time to produce any benefits.

You must believe in Creationism.
And your telling me to get real?
Religion is a crutch, grow up.

If evolution is the working order of the universe...then...have you seen it in works? I sure haven't. Let's take this to the Mudpit then..U2U me if you want to.

Have you seen God? Jesus? Angels? Heaven? Hell?

Evolutionism is much more plausible than Creationism.

www.onelife.com...

Read that, Xenongod.

it doesn't take evolution for the immune system to develop immunity to certain strains of viri-

did you know you never catch the same exact strain of cold or flu twice? Think Flu shots and Homeopthy...specific amounts of exposure can allow one to come into contact with the virus without contracting the symptoms-although just because you don't "get" the flu if you have been immunized doesn't mean you can't still be a "carrier"

Ah annother product of the socialistic Canadian state!

Watch out America.

Stalin is on your border and you did nothing to prevent it.

Originally posted by Canuck
www.onelife.com...

Read that, Xenongod.

Quote from article:Mutations are accidents in reproduction. Edit: So...in other words...it is not a natural order of things. If it happens...it was not meant to be. Read what you post.

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by xenongod]

Originally posted by exdog
it doesn't take evolution for the immune system to develop immunity to certain strains of viri-

did you know you never catch the same exact strain of cold or flu twice? Think Flu shots and Homeopthy...specific amounts of exposure can allow one to come into contact with the virus without contracting the symptoms-although just because you don't "get" the flu if you have been immunized doesn't mean you can't still be a "carrier"

That is part of evolution, once you've come in contact with the disease, your immune system begins to develop means with which to destroy it.

Even the flu-shot which you mention, is a part of human evolution.
What seperates us from animals is the fact that we can change the world around us to improve the quality of life for ourselves, which is part of evolution.
When we learn a new technique for surgery, that's evolution on a civilization level, not a personal level.
Same goes for pretty much any technology that improves the way we live, not luxury things mind you. More the necessities than anything else.

Natural selection then determines the fate of the mutation in the species gene pool. The test is not survivability or excellence. The test is in species population growth. If the mutation aids the growth of the species population then it is successful and will remain in the gene pool. If it does not, natural selection will remove it from the gene pool (through death and hardship).

The accident happens, nature then decides if it stays.
Helps to keep reading sometimes.

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by Canuck]

Originally posted by Canuck

Originally posted by exdog
it doesn't take evolution for the immune system to develop immunity to certain strains of viri-

did you know you never catch the same exact strain of cold or flu twice? Think Flu shots and Homeopthy...specific amounts of exposure can allow one to come into contact with the virus without contracting the symptoms-although just because you don't "get" the flu if you have been immunized doesn't mean you can't still be a "carrier"

That is part of evolution, once you've come in contact with the disease, your immune system begins to develop means with which to destroy it.

Even the flu-shot which you mention, is a part of human evolution.
What seperates us from animals is the fact that we can change the world around us to improve the quality of life for ourselves, which is part of evolution.
When we learn a new technique for surgery, that's evolution on a civilization level, not a personal level.
Same goes for pretty much any technology that improves the way we live, not luxury things mind you. More the necessities than anything else.

Do you really think that qualifies as true evolution? I'm not sure I do...I'm not dismissing your view, just doesn't seem like true evolution in my opinion...now if say my son could never catch the same virus I or his mother had caught before he was concieved-That would be evolution-carried through DNA etc... ya know?

Originally posted by Canuck

Natural selection then determines the fate of the mutation in the species gene pool. The test is not survivability or excellence. The test is in species population growth. If the mutation aids the growth of the species population then it is successful and will remain in the gene pool. If it does not, natural selection will remove it from the gene pool (through death and hardship).

The accident happens, nature then decides if it stays.
Helps to keep reading sometimes.

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by Canuck]

Fate:
The supposed force, principle, or power that predetermines events.
The inevitable events predestined by this force.
A final result or consequence; an outcome.
Unfavorable destiny; doom.


[Edited on 28-11-2003 by xenongod]

Believe it or not XenonGod, I read that before you edited it.

You totally contradicted yourself with that fate bullsh!t and you knew it.

Give it up, I can do this all day.

[Edited on 28-11-2003 by Canuck]

And yes, Exdog. But in my view, anything that furthers the human race is human evolution.
Whether it be a new technology we create, or a (new)natural immunity that slowly works it's way into our immune systems over a period of hundreds of generations.

Originally posted by xenongod
This thread is not the place to start an evolution debate. Nothing has ever evolved into a better organism...always to the worse. Get real.

ALSO, remember my quote you quoted just a minute ago?
If a creature evolved into something worse, it would die off, THAT is evolution.

Originally posted by Canuck
And yes, Exdog. But in my view, anything that furthers the human race is human evolution.
Whether it be a new technology we create, or a (new)natural immunity that slowly works it's way into our immune systems over a period of hundreds of generations.

fair enough...great topic!!!