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Topic started on 16-12-2006 @ 06:41 AM by DezertSkies


reply posted on 16-12-2006 @ 02:47 PM by WyrdeOne
For gathering water, you can put a mass of vegetation in a plastic bag (leaving plenty of room left in the bag, and leave it outside in the sun. Leave one corner of the bag empty, and hanging down at a point lower than the rest. The sun will cause water in the vegetation to evaporate, it will then gather at the top of the bag in the form of condensation, and finally run down into the empy corner. You can poke a tiny hole in that corner to allow the water to run out, or you can insert a tube there to drink from.

To the untrained eye, this just looks like a bag of trash, and won't give away your position. Of course, if someone who knows what it is sees it, they will know someone is living in the area. It's for this reason I would probably not leave a drinking tube inserted if I was trying to conceal my presence. Without the drinking tube giving away the nature of the bag, it's just a bag with some leaves in it.

Take this method one step farther, you can tie a large plastic bag around a cluster of branches that are still attached to a living tree, and anchor one corner down near the ground. The water evaporates, produces condensation, and collects in the corner near the ground.

This doesn't work in the winter, for obvious reasons (no vegetation).

Another random tip is a way to light a cigarette without matches. If you have a flashlight reflector, remove the bulb, insert the 'lighting' end of the cigarette in the little hole, sticking out in place of where the bulb used to be, hold it up to the sun, and in no time it will be smoking. Puff on it a bit, and you've got it. I never used to think this was feasible, until I tried it. The same principle can be used to light tinder. It's as good a reason as any to carry a flashlight with a proper detachable reflector. Additionally, if you get a flashlight with a ground glass cover, you can use it to start fires by focusing sunlight. I'm not sure if this works with plastic lenses/covers, I doubt it though.

If you get a good waterproof flashlight, it doubles as a handy storage cannister for an extra fire kit, if you leave the batteries out (which you should do anyway, if you don't want them to drain out before you need them). If the flashlight is intended for emergency use, it would be better to have it ready to go, batteries in place and all. So maybe the solution is to carry two. One waterproof, with no batteries, storing a firekit, and another intact, for emergency use.



reply posted on 17-12-2006 @ 02:42 AM by DezertSkies
Good tips all!!!

Wyrde, i like the bagged tree idea, that's one i haven't heard before. Along those lines, a bag could be a good way to gather dew off trees, bag a wet limb, shake it , and catch the drops inside the bag. I'd imagine a few good wet boughs shaken in a bag would get you a drink with little effort. I'll have to try it next time i'm out.

Who has actually built a solar still? I hear a lot about 'em, but it seems like a helluva lot of work for a little bit of water. It seems like the amount of water you'd get wouldn't make up for what you lose digging a hole.

Although i don't have one in there now, i'm going to add a sponge to my bag the next chance i get to pick one up, and use it to see how much water i can collect.

When I was a kid I had a reflector lighter, it looked like a shiny lil spoon and a wire arch where you clip your smoke or a bunch of tinder and point it at the sun.

And another tip, if you carry a pepsi can stove, polish the bottom into a reflector, and the stove will have a built in lighter. Get some tinder going, flip the stove over, fuel it up and use the tinder to light the alcohol (asuming you have fuel but no fire) I haven't tried the soda can reflector fire method yet, but i've used similar sized reflectors and have no reason to believe it won't work. It worked for mythbusters.

Kinda OT but another firestarter is the computer or tv screen enlargers. It's basically a screen that goes in front of a tv or omonitor and makes it a few inches bigger. I had one that came off a 19" tv, put it in the sun, and could get a hotspot hot enough to melt pavement and would ignite tinder or paper instantly. Acorns would vent out the burn hole as the core heated and act like rocket thrusters, spinnning it around. You probably won't have one of these in your pocket when you're 50 miles from nowhere, but soemthing that may also work is one of those RV rear window magnifiers. I don't know how you'd acquire one in a survival situation but if you did, you'd have a pretty powerful firestarter.

Keep the tips coming!


reply posted on 17-12-2006 @ 01:54 PM by Terapin
For years I owned a German Kubelwagon variant. It was a small, agile and very mobile vehicle that often out performed most of today's modern SUVs that soccer moms drive. Your typical SUV is heavy, not agile, has a surprisingly low ground clearance, is a disgrace at fuel consumption, and very pricey. Most drivers have road tires on their SUVs and I have seen many of them get stuck while driving off road. Last winter one passed me on a snowy road only to wind up in the woods on the next turn. I took my Kubelwagon off road in a variety of conditions and never had a problem. You could spend your money better on more essential survival items than the majority of today's SUVs. Unless you have a large family, open country, plenty of fuel, and no need to be discrete, a SUV is a poor choice IMHO. In a city, they simply hog the road and get people killed. Forget sensible parking.

www.geocities.com...

If you want a super duty utility vehicle that out climbs a Hummer look to the Pinzgauer. They will go anywhere and leave Hummers stuck behind.
www.northeastoffroad.com...

A good Off road motorcycle is best for fast getaways in any terrain but tend to be quite noisy. A Mule would be better for the long run situation X. Mules carry a great deal of goods, Can forage far better than a horse which needs higher quality feed, and make no tell tale motor noises or petroleum smells. My choice for a get away vehicle is a sailboat. but perhaps this bel;ongs in another thread.

My tip: avoid any vehicle that performs poorly, requires significant resourses to function, and uses up cash that could be better spent on a variety of survival goods.


reply posted on 17-12-2006 @ 09:53 PM by Toasty
A lot of these tips have been for situation in cold/snowy areas. Here's some that are helpful in warm/desert climates that I picked up from watching the Bush Tucker Man as a kid:

- Water. This is your number 1 necessity. You wont last 6 hours in the sun without it. Conserve your body's hydration by resting in shade during the day, and traveling at dusk/dawn.

- Collecting water with the still method works well, but in the desert there is little ground water, so you must place vegetation in the still. The water tastes bad, but may be your only option. Also, digging a hole for the still can dehydrate you quickly. Best to do it at night or morning.

- Don't drink your vehicle's coolant. You will get real sick and die.

- If there is wildlife around, you can be sure there will be water close by. Animals need it too, so they generally wont stray too far from it. Flocks of birds are a good sign of water that may be hidden.

- Don't take risks. If you have the option of a dangerous short cut or the safe long route, take the long one. An incapacitating injury can certainly mean death.

- Never leave your vehicle. It can provide you with shade and protection, plus is a lot easier to spot from a plane. It also contains flammable liquids that can be used to create a campfire for signaling and warmth at night.

- The mirrors of your car can be used are reflectors for signaling and someone also mentioned CDs too.

- Lighting a fire is essential for signaling and keep warm at night. If you are stupid and don't have matches/lighter/flint etc, use the sun to your advantage and use a magnifying glass. If you don't have one of those try any concave piece of glass, like a soda bottle. Only try rubbing sticks as a last resort, because getting fire that way requires a lot of energy and time and you will probably just exhaust yourself.

- Be very careful around waterholes and lakes. In the Aussie outback, crocs will lay in wait for an unsuspecting animal to drink from the waters edge. Then before they can react, chomp!

These tips have been provided for the unprepared adventurer. Obviously you would carry much more equipment if you were planing on traveling in such an arid region.
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