Surviving a Zombie Outbreak

A few facts about planning around using military goods.
Having served on active duty let me explain something to you.

first the weapons.
Stored in secure store rooms that are rated to withstand 2 hrs of attack.
all vehicle mounted weapons that cannot be removed and stored in the secure room are disabled... tanks have the main guns firing pin removed...Bradley Fighting Vehicles have the bolt and track removed, so no joy there

second ammo
Ammo being stored with weapons is a sin as far as the army is concerned.
small arms ammo is stored in secure bunkers scatered around bases.
large ammo like for the tanks is even harder to get, I dont think alot of the stuff is stored at most army bases, I think it is stored off base at secure bunkers.

Third Food.
MRE's and food are stored in wharehouses. Not at National Guard Armories and the like.

Fuel.
Unless you have a vehicle that runs on JP8 or JP4 you are out of luck.

Vehicles.
Most military vehicles need 1-10 hrs of maintenance for every hour of operation (aircraft needing the most)

bases
Long ago has the balistic projectile rendered fortifications useless. All bases and forts are guarded by chainlink fence.

So, I think some people need to read both WWZ and the zombie handbook.

Even though I have issues with some of the views in both they are good.

So, IMHO, You goto a grocerystore, start moving all non parishables to ROOF, if you baricade doors you should buy time, and concentrate on the palets in the back. During the Day travel to find supplies, the rule is quiet-quiet-quiet, choose to hide rather then fight.

priorities are
water
warmth
food
security (assuming that the roof provides immediate security)

I could transform a roof top AC unit into a fire pit pretty easily.
I will post more later. gtg Shufflers comming cross the parking lot

Hysterical Historical zombie outbreak in Egypt

www.archaeology.org...

Hierakonpolis is a site famous for its many "firsts," so many, in fact, it is not easy to keep track of them all. So we are grateful(?) to Max Brooks for bringing to our attention that the site can also claim the title to the earliest recorded zombie attack in history. In his magisterial tome, The Zombie Survival Guide (2003), he informs us that in 1892, a British dig at Hierakonpolis unearthed a nondescript tomb containing a partially decomposed body, whose brain had been infected with the virus (Solanum) that turns people into zombies. In addition, thousands of scratch marks adorned every surface of the tomb, as if the corpse had tried to claw its way out! [Editor's note: click here for an interview with Max Brooks and a timeline of archaeologically documented zombie outbreaks.]

Something to think about.....

reply to post by Rasobasi420


they're not serious. Read it again and you'll see that they are thanking Brooks for using the location and then they seem to debunk his claims a bit without stating the zombie attack never happened. the whole article is somewhat tongue in cheek.

reply to post by Crakeur


Yep....

I own both of Max Brook's zombie books. I'm pretty sure The Zombie Survival Guide isn't a 'Tome'.

reply to post by thelibra
A .22 long rifle is the best. Ammo is cheap and can be found ANYWHERE, It only produces about 75 decibels unsilenced, has enough power to penetrate the human skull at 200 meters, and when silenced it makes no more noise than an air rifle, has no recoil so you can shoot all day and not have a sore shoulder. Get on top of a building and snipe away!

I say Barack Obama should schedule a summit where he can address all the "Zombie" issues....oh wait, he already is...with the President from Iran. I think zombies are misunderstood and should be brought into the picture when it comes to any affirmative action qualifications...

reply to post by Anuubis


The problem with rifles is that they suck when it comes to close combat.

The majority of the fighting you'll be doing in a zombie outbreak will be close to mid-range combat, so personally, my preferred weapons will be a handgun (of any variety) or similar weapon that can be used with one hand in close combat (harpoon guns, mini-crossbows, etc), and a sturdy melee weapon, which there will be plenty of.

Getting involved with zombies at a distance is a waste of precious ammo, impo.

[edit on 4-7-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
reply to post by Anuubis

 

The problem with rifles is that they suck when it comes to close combat.

The majority of the fighting you'll be doing in a zombie outbreak will be close to mid-range combat, so personally, my preferred weapons will be a handgun (of any variety) or similar weapon that can be used with one hand in close combat (harpoon guns, mini-crossbows, etc), and a sturdy melee weapon, which there will be plenty of.

Getting involved with zombies at a distance is a waste of precious ammo, impo.

[edit on 4-7-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]

Waste of ammo? Ok heres the scenario, i'm baricaded in my house with food and water. They can't get to me, and i'm picking them off about 50 to 75 meters from my roof. I'm pretty safe. I'm not getting infected, neither is my family. You on the other hand, come up against 20 or 30 of them, convinced it's better to take them on in hand to hand. You'll get tired of swinging your weapon by the time you kill 10 if your lucky. If your using a pistol then after you kill 15 if your a good enough shot then they'll get you while your trying to reload. Unless you have a pistol like they have in the movies that never runs out of ammo. If you do tell me where you bought it because i want one
Oh and what the hell does impo stand for?

[edit on 5-7-2008 by Anuubis]

I really think that the scenario that is described in world war Z is pretty close to what would happen. I do not think that any individual survival would work very well. I mean long term survival depends on renewable sources of food and water, along with medical needs and other things that we have become dependant on. Like it or not we need doctors and stuff.... so I really think that a lone wolf sitting on his house picking off zombies doesn't work for more than a couple months. People who decide to stay and fight would have to band together and start a small city within a wall or natural barrier.

so zombie survival comes down to time and patience...

remember no country has ever been able to achieve "total war"...who ever heard of taking a crap for victory... but with the zombies they are capable of total war.

reply to post by irongunner
That is why i live in a small town. If everyone else turned into a zombie i have enough ammo to take them all out.

I think there are 2 keys to surviving a Z outbreak.

1. Realize what is goin on EARLY. If you can see the writing on the wall you wont have any problems getting thousands of rounds of ammo ( I would rely on .22 long rifle ammo... probobly 4 rifles including bolt action and pistols including revolvers) and you could get to where you think you can set up a fort. I mean that a fort. Lets face it, if anyone knows where you are you will have to deal with the living and the dead. and if you have to deal with the living you will have to let some into your fort, plan for that. another problem with dealing with the living besides the mouths to feed is the problem with those retarded people that let emotions control their actions.... I mean who do you think you are that if every other person that even gets sneezed on by a zombie turns that the big bite wound on your neck isn't a death sentance.

2. Prepare for a LLLOOONNNNGGG war. A full on zombie out break would take years to over come. When most people think about stockpiling food they have in mind 2-3 weeks. As you get further out than that it realy becomes logisticaly impossible... What with how food expires and the shear bulk of food and water.... No, winners will have to adapt quickly and be lucky to survive without too much hassel from the living or dead..

whilst at work today i realised it is the most perfect place if a zombie outbreak were to happen. I work in a distribution centre for one of the UK's largest supermarket chains. It has everything i could possibly need and it is very well fortified. firstly there is a ditch running around the premises that is about 1-2 metres deep the only place where there is level ground is at the main gate but the fencing all the way round is about 12feet high with barbed wire on top and the gate is a very heavy electronic one that can only be opened by security cards. the warehouse itself only has one door at ground level which is the main entrance but that can be easily barricaded, the rest of the entrances are on the loading deck which has steel shutters and a furter shutter to lock in trailers that are left there overnight. the warehouse is broken up into blocks and each block is seperated by heavy fire doors which are the only ways in and out. these can be closed and locked. you can also get onto the roof which is about 40 feet high via ladders in the warehouse, its a flat roof so it would be ideal for growing vegetables and collecting rain water. obviously being a supermarket distribution centre there is lots of food and also compost, plant seeds and lots of bottled water. u could live there and never worry about running out of supplies or zombies getting anywhere near you.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS
You'll be safe as long as it happens while your at work.

I dont think you would be that safe.... Chain link fences are good for normal rational people with out mechanical means to defeat the barrier... A human (or zombie) wave attack on a chain link fence will defeat it quickly. You need a wall, a concrete wall that is 3:1 in ration of height to width, like a 12' by 4' wall... even then the wall is succeptable to a human wave attack as well... by piling bodies (human or zombie) they defeat the wall. My ideal fort for would be 2-3 acres; which is large enough for grazing animals and small crops, but small enough to defend with 12-20 people. The walls will be 10' X2' or similar diemsion, with a solid foundation, The inortant part is that the walls will be covered with ivy and other climing plants and hidden with trees. Think like the wall from the movie the village. A well large anough to support opporations, and hand tools...the relatively small size of my fort would support this... The house needs to have an enclosed story tall enough to see over the wall (this is a neccesity for covered observation posts), the roof could be used for solar power collection and water heating. the grazing land could be used for a heli-pad. In Texas there is plenty of land that could facilitate this... and as long as proper security measures are observed venturing outside of the fort could be possible....

NOTE: even if ammo is not a issue and you feel that some firearms training is in order and safe (noise wise)... DO NOT USE THE WALL AS A BACK STOP FOR THE BULLETS... That is your barrier, you might as well do target practice in the space shuttle.

Originally posted by nastalgik
i read the zombie surivior guide, but WHAT IF the zombies are like the new hollywood zombies, you know, sprinting full speed screaming insanely,ect. Then what would we do,lol.

Which holly wood zombies

If their FAST and STRONG like the ones on Dawn of the Dead and SMARt like the ones off of LAND OF THE DEAD then were screwed but if their like the ones off of NIGHT OF THE LIVING dead and shaun of the dead you don't have anything to worry about...

Originally posted by Anuubis
reply to post by irongunner

 

That is why i live in a small town. If everyone else turned into a zombie i have enough ammo to take them all out.

FUNNIEST THING I'VE SEEN SO FAR ON ATS IS WHAT YOU SAID LOL!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Hysterical Historical zombie outbreak in Egypt

www.archaeology.org...

Hierakonpolis is a site famous for its many "firsts," so many, in fact, it is not easy to keep track of them all. So we are grateful(?) to Max Brooks for bringing to our attention that the site can also claim the title to the earliest recorded zombie attack in history. In his magisterial tome, The Zombie Survival Guide (2003), he informs us that in 1892, a British dig at Hierakonpolis unearthed a nondescript tomb containing a partially decomposed body, whose brain had been infected with the virus (Solanum) that turns people into zombies. In addition, thousands of scratch marks adorned every surface of the tomb, as if the corpse had tried to claw its way out! [Editor's note: click here for an interview with Max Brooks and a timeline of archaeologically documented zombie outbreaks.]

Something to think about.....

That some scary stuff but maybe they were locked done their ALIVe left to die because they had a horrible disease...?

reply to post by Rasobasi420


Well this thread IS specificaly for the Romero zombie... If you want to talk about the other types start a new thread.

reply to post by Ggurl777
Why is it so funny?

first of all some of these weapons are from resident evil game and this is my fanstasy

I'd carry a high powered sniper rifle have nemsis railgun and rocket launcher a linear launcher grenade claymores magnum hand gun the cures to the virus case full of ammo backpack full of medical supplies food and water shotgun robotic metal alloy armor and two katana blades

I'd first pick up my girlfriend and family in the limo I came across give them all the cure and find the airport so We all can go to alaska but if i had a different choice I board myself up in a casino and wait for help and if i had nothing to do I'd gamble