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Originally posted by Aim64C
Simple - the construction of the building lead to the type of colapse we see. It's a mesh support exterior.
I'm currently in the process of a 3d graphic that will explain this.
Originally posted by CameronFox
Ultima... dont forget the debris that slammed into WTC7 ....thats what I mean when i mention the truth movement....you make it off like there was "just a fire"...and you know there was MUCH more than that...
Just keeping it real
Originally posted by CameronFox
AIM64C....
FOX news is not Conservative???
Ultima... dont forget the debris that slammed into WTC7 ....thats what I mean when i mention the truth movement....you make it off like there was "just a fire"...and you know there was MUCH more than that...
Just keeping it real
Fires Have Never Caused Skyscrapers to Collapse
Excepting the three 9-11 collapses, no fire, however severe, has ever caused a steel framed high-rise building to collapse. Following are examples of high-rise fires that were far more severe than those in WTC 1 and 2, and Building 7. In these precedents, the fires consumed multiple floors, produced extensive window breakage, exhibited large areas of emergent flames, and went on for several hours. The fires in the WTC towers did none of these things.
The One Meridian Plaza Fire
One Meridian Plaza is a 38-floor skyscraper in Philadelphia that suffered a severe fire on February 23, 1991. The fire starting on the 22nd floor, and raged for 18 hours, gutting eight floors and causing an estimated $100 million in direct property loss It was later described by Philadelphia officials as "the most significant fire in this century".
The fire caused window breakage, cracking of granite, and failures of spandrel panel connections. Despite the severity and duration of the fire, as evidenced by the damage the building sustained, no part of the building collapsed
The First Interstate Bank Fire
The First Interstate Bank Building is a 62-story skyscraper in Los Angeles that suffered the worst high-rise fire in the city's history. From the late evening of May 4, 1988 through the early morning of the next day, 64 fire companies battled the blaze, which lasted for 3 1/2 hours. The fire caused extensive window breakage, which complicated firefighting efforts. Large flames jutted out of the building during the blaze. Firefighting efforts resulted in massive water damage to floors below the fire, and the fire gutted offices from the 12th to the 16th floor, and caused extensive smoke damage to floors above. The fire caused an estimated $200 million in direct property loss.
A report by Iklim Ltd. describes the structural damage from the fire:
In spite of a total burnout of four and a half floors, there was no damage to the main structural members and only minor damage to one secondary beam and a small number of floor pans.
The 1 New York Plaza Fire
1 New York Plaza is a 50-story office tower less than a mile from the World Trade Center site. It suffered a severe fire and explosion on August 5, 1970. The fire started around 6 PM, and burned for more than 6 hours.
Caracas Tower Fire
The tallest skyscraper in Caracas, Venezuela experienced a severe fire on October 17, 2004. The blaze began on the 34th floor and spread to over 26 floors, and burned for more than 17 hours. Heat from the fires prevented firefighters from reaching the upper floors, and smoke injured 40 firefighters.
Originally posted by CameronFox
This was not JUST A FIRE!! I am not saying ANYTHING that hasnt been rehashed in here for years now. The building (WTC7) was severly damaged by debris from a collasping 110 story building !
You can show me all the buildings on fire till the cows come home, the fact is NONE of those building were hit by either a plane OR by debris from a collapsing skyscraper.
As far as evidence, there is minimal photographic evidence, but what i have posted is eye witness after eye witness that explains the damage to the WTC7..The firemen, police, EMT's, the engineers....everyone there knew that the building was in serious jeopardy. Thats why recovery efforts were stopped around the collapse of the tower for fear that #7 was going to come down. These firemen were pretty upset about this becasue they wanted to try to save more people burried. Imagine how many more lives would have been lost in the collaspe of WTC7 if the didn't "pull out" from their operation.
Originally posted by CameronFox
This was not JUST A FIRE!! I am not saying ANYTHING that hasnt been rehashed in here for years now. The building (WTC7) was severly damaged by debris from a collasping 110 story building !
You can show me all the buildings on fire till the cows come home, the fact is NONE of those building were hit by either a plane OR by debris from a collapsing skyscraper.
''We built in enough redundancy to allow entire portions of floors to be removed without affecting the building's structural integrity, on the assumption that someone might need double-height floors,'' said Larry Silverstein, president of the company. ''Sure enough, Salomon had that need.
But what about steel builidngs that burned for all day and night and had structural damage due to the fire, yet they did not collapse.
Well i do not know how much real damage thier could have been since building 7 is one of the farest builidngs away from the towers
WTC 7 was hit the least of the buildings in the complex.
Buildings like the Empire State Building had both *DAMAGE AND FIRE*, damage from a B-25 Bomber hitting it at over 300mph and the large Fire afterward it didn't collapse.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
But what about steel builidngs that burned for all day and night and had structural damage due to the fire, yet they did not collapse.
So which one had a 110 story building fall into it?
Let's get this straight once and for all.. none of the towers fell onto Building 7. Nothing collapsed onto Building 7. Isn't it universally agreed upon by truthers and skeptics alike that the towers fell straight down onto their own footprints? If so, what collapsed onto Building 7 precisely?
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
So which one had a 110 story building fall into it?
About what...150-200 feet away from the Tower, Tower over 1,000 feet tall...close enough to cause a hell of a lot of damage.
Not quite....
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Better yet, anyone thinking the tower was "too far" away to affect WTC 7, check this map.
www.cnn.com...