Originally posted by Matyas
Zorgon, I saw the apple too. I like Mars, I really do.

That Mars picture was for SOTR

The Moon, however, is much closer, ... and close enough for ease of study.

If they will let us...

And that is why we are here, right?

That is why Pegasus is here... We are HERE to try to prove we are already THERE.... makes sense? And if your nice I will send you a copy of the Laser Beam propulsions

Originally posted by zorgon
... Matyas labeled this one...
[size=3]"Seal of Barsoom"[/size]

Must get signet ring...

Don't you have a number for someone who does those things? And hows about the other trappings we discussed in the past?

Originally posted by Matyas
Must get signet ring...

Don't you have a number for someone who does those things? And hows about the other trappings we discussed in the past?

LOL actually I do... not a bad idea... All good Illuminati's have one
But do we really want the crater on a ring? I can have it made as a seal though...

As to the other trappings... don't have yer size Funny thing though, just got a call from someone wondering about the state of that project, seems the funds are still floatng around. I may have to devote more time to that again... There goes sleep....

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by zorgon
You will notice the angle of the light in the crater in the upper right. The shadow inside it actually makes a pointer... which just happens to point at the biosphere... You will notice which side of the dome the light is one...
This one meets Yandros' criteria...

That is one of those pictures made with more than one image, at least three.

I know that I am repeating myself about the direction of the light on the photos, but this photo looks like the left part has the light coming from the top left and the right part of the image has the light coming from the top right, that may be one of the things that makes this a strange picture.

Good point, and it should also be pointed out again perhaps for those of us with short attention spans that each one of those pictures that are stitched together to form the "big picture" are themselves made up of at least three different exposures (at 3 different wavelengths) taken in a series of 12 exposures (through each of the 6 different filters twice) in a 1.2 second burst. Besides the different appearance of stuff at different wavelengths the slight difference in the spacecraft's position between exposures can create a 3-D effect when combined.

In other words these pictures are basically useless for "spying" on the Moon as surely anyone can plainly see for themselves?

Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
In other words these pictures are basically useless for "spying" on the Moon as surely anyone can plainly see for themselves?

SOTR has a good point here. So according to this, we DON'T have any accurate maps of the Moon's surface features. Why? After all the billions and million of man hours, all we have is zip? This certainly doesn't seem right, and may even be the conspiracy that faces us in plain sight which makes monkeys of us all...

Originally posted by zorgon
I want to know how NASA manages to keep lightning from striking the highest point...

That is easy, the lightning uses the way that offers the smallest resistance. That is why it strikes higher points, because that way it does need to keep travelling accross air, a bad conductor.

But if the higher point is a worse conductor than the air then the lightning will ignore the higher point and will keep travelling across the air.

Originally posted by zorgon
Hmmm so which is it? Three? Or two? Your right though you tend to repeat yourself on light and shadows a lot, and I do believe that can be confusing to some people... So perhaps a little more of a detailed look will help solve your confusion.

The image looks made of three parts, but only two have that crater in them, so the image of the crater is made of a left part and a right part.

Thanks for the clarification, I like to see every detail explained, that is why I am not commenting the supposed "mask layers" that undo speaks about, I am still not convinced that things work like that.

After studying the look of the clementine color photos, vs. the black and white lunar orbiter and apollo photos, i've concluded that they had some kind of recognition software in that camera computer that auto-overlaid an organic surface on anything anomalous of a particular nature. some are membranes, some are umbilical cords, some are sea creatures, some are spiders, and so on. it's fascinating to see the results of this software at work, really. what an amazing program. now if i just knew how to deconstruct the algorithms, we'd have some gorgeous full color shots of the moon!

Originally posted by Matyas
SOTR has a good point here. So according to this, we DON'T have any accurate maps of the Moon's surface features. Why? After all the billions and million of man hours, all we have is zip? This certainly doesn't seem right, and may even be the conspiracy that faces us in plain sight which makes monkeys of us all...

Not to mention the millions and billions of tax payers dollars that have gone, (and looks like are still going), into the last 12 years to prepare these useless images. So one can only as why? And where can I get the copies that were taken with 11 bands?

And you need to look at the Pegasus menu Matyas Dec 29 2006

Originally posted by undo
After studying the look of the clementine color photos, vs. the black and white lunar orbiter and apollo photos, i've concluded that they had some kind of recognition software in that camera computer that auto-overlaid an organic surface on anything anomalous of a particular nature. some are membranes, some are umbilical cords, some are sea creatures, some are spiders, and so on. it's fascinating to see the results of this software at work, really. what an amazing program. now if i just knew how to deconstruct the algorithms, we'd have some gorgeous full color shots of the moon!

Undo, you hit the nail on the head Nasa also has used similar programs on Mars to disguise the actual visual truth of what we are seeing on the surface. It is an absolute crying shame if Nasa is covering up the real visual truth of what is on Mars and the Earth's Moon. Why would they cover up these incredible findings? Human nature would tell us the reasoning behind the massive cover-up could be power, money and control. We the people think we are the tax base that drives the machine and without us no machine. Here is a clue I believe we the people have been circumvented by way of alien technology exchange, mining operations on the Moon and Mars. This way the powers to be can pay for secret operations throughout the Solar System and beyond. Here is a great solution we humans have on Earth of finding out the truth, and it is called brains. Now some powers to be would rather we go away and not think or recieve visuals by using our collective brains. Rik Riley

[edit on 29-12-2006 by rikriley]

i'm theorizing that it means something, religously-speaking, and that it may not even be NASA that has the problem with it. here's a potential list of suspects other than NASA:

1) aliens, who don't want you to know about the extent of their interactions with the human species.

2) interdimensional beings whodon't want you to know about the extent of their interactions with the human species

3) religious earthly orgs,that don't want you to know the extent as it would undermine their teachings.

4) scientists, who've written piles of books about how the solar system is uninhabited, only to find out later that it wasn't or hadn't been . think if the ancient egyptians, for example, had some connection to this stuff on the moon, or the hindus, and so on, what a mess of things this would make to those 400 years of German Higher Criticism

5) The governments don't want you to know because it puts the power into a completely different paradigm. the shift would be so massive, they may fear it would effect them

6) the entire thing is made up to look like anomalies, deliberately, for some unseen agenda that we've yet to ascertain.

7) God has something to do with it, and if you knew and had visiual evidence, you would make choices based on something other than faith.

Originally posted by zorgon And you need to look at the Pegasus menu Matyas Dec 29 2006

I have been trying for two days to answer this, but every time I get to it someone on my user end chases me off

Quite the b-day present I must say! The red headline takes the place of a ribbon rather nicely! I am sure if Dr. Jackson knew he would be slightly embarassed...

Originally posted by Matyas
I am sure if Dr. Jackson knew he would be slightly embarassed...

Well he would if he reads his emails I haven't even had time to study the laser drive yet

Originally posted by ArMaP
That is easy, the lightning uses the way that offers the smallest resistance. That is why it strikes higher points, because that way it does need to keep travelling accross air, a bad conductor.
But if the higher point is a worse conductor than the air then the lightning will ignore the higher point and will keep travelling across the air.

So a metal gantry that has direct to ground connections like a lightning rod would not be a better target? And that still doesn't explain the glow around the shuttle. So I am still trying to find out if NASA uses shielding of some sort now on the ground as they do on ISS

Originally posted by undo
i'm theorizing that it means something, religously-speaking, and that it may not even be NASA that has the problem with it. here's a potential list of suspects other than NASA:

1) aliens, who don't want you to know about the extent of their interactions with the human species.

2) interdimensional beings whodon't want you to know about the extent of their interactions with the human species

3) religious earthly orgs,that don't want you to know the extent as it would undermine their teachings.

4) scientists, who've written piles of books about how the solar system is uninhabited, only to find out later that it wasn't or hadn't been . think if the ancient egyptians, for example, had some connection to this stuff on the moon, or the hindus, and so on, what a mess of things this would make to those 400 years of German Higher Criticism

5) The governments don't want you to know because it puts the power into a completely different paradigm. the shift would be so massive, they may fear it would effect them

6) the entire thing is made up to look like anomalies, deliberately, for some unseen agenda that we've yet to ascertain.

7) God has something to do with it, and if you knew and had visiual evidence, you would make choices based on something other than faith.

The truth is nearer then we think all we have to do is look to the western part of the United States. I made the prediction 1-01-06 that the lost civilization sites of Lumeria would be discovered in the western part of the U.S. in the year 2006 on Art Bell's Coast to Coast yearly prediction show. I am telling the world it has been discovered in 2006, but devulging the locations would be like opening the gates to the gold rush of 1849 all over again. The sights could be destroyed by artifact looters and millions and millons of sight seers. I feel strongly that we humans on Earth will now find out the answers to many of our unanswered questions including questions about the Earth, Earth's Moon, Solar System, Milky Way and the many dimensional Universes all in the realm of Lumeria. This will go down in history as one of the greatest finds ever. Let it be written this is not a joke. Rik Riley

Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
No. What do you consider accurate? Or is it precision you're after?

Ideally, accurate and precise, but indications to date are the precision lacks enough transparency. I think that is what we all want.

No. We have LOTS of data on the moon and I believe you will find the various missions were mostly successful in achieving their stated goals.

Sure. Soil composition. Magnetic fields. Geologic data. And more! But when I take the Moon buggy to 7-11 there is no way of knowing wether or not I will need to carve through a boulder or drive through it because it is just a trick of light.