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Revealed for the First Time Color Images of the Moon from Clementine Satellite

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posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 04:13 AM
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I just gave you a WATS SOTR, yeah, for keeping it real. That is my opinion, don't read anything else into it.



Merry CHRISTmas, and peace in the solar system.




posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 04:32 AM
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Sometimes the information can be hidden in plain sight. I thought checking for a mask on some of these might work and it seems I was right, but it's a rare occurence. This is the anomalie in T-crater (Tsiolkovsky Crater, Farside), as I call it. It's the mask (the overlay) that was placed on the image to change the final appearance of the pic. The things that were masked were "painted" out of the original picture.

thestargates.com...

and this is the finished picture
thestargates.com...

Next is the same anomalie, but from a different pic. This time trying to find the mask resulted in some kind of algorithmic grid pattern. Still, parts of the structure can be seen (barely) through the massive amount of gray boxes.

This first one is the basic mess i started with
thestargates.com...

This one is the preliminary outlines
thestargates.com...

And this one is the blueprint of the thing
thestargates.com...

I have no idea what it is. But it's interesting.

and here's the finished product (full pic)
thestargates.com...





[edit on 23-12-2006 by undo]



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 06:46 AM
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This thread is about color images of clementine and mostly the aristarchus crater.
Maybe we should stay on topic. With all data now presented I think that the blue color we see on craters, and after looking around, I see this same color on a lot of small craters, it is probably only a product of digital image processing.

I found another picture if aristarchus crater, and... it is still a crater.



At two o clock in this picture there is a ridge that looks interesting. But as on most of the pictures we see, the resolution is too bad.



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 07:37 AM
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loofo,

interesting response . (makes mental note).

it was an answer to ArMap's contention to my post on page 11 ( www.abovetopsecret.com...) that the anomalie in t-crater did not change. i suggested it had not only changed but had been changed. my post above seems to indicate that it has been changed. i could be wrong.

we're also establishing the images have changed over time, so that they may not look how they did originally. we are looking for anomalies, correct?

well here's the mask for aristarchus. i was a bit surprised to find a gigantic um, thing, in the scenery. it's within the "gold area" as well.



Source:
www.ngc7000.org...

if you're not familar with the "gold area", allow me to familarize you with it. in the link below, notice the white box is around the same anomalie as the one in the pic above. only it's from overhead instead of from the side. there are two figures, not just one. side by side. the only problem is, they are facing a different direction in the first pic than in the second one, leading me to believe they've been moved between the two timeframes for the pics in question. the first pic and third pic were taken 2003 Dec 06, the second one was taken by clementine. the third pic is from the same source as the first one but has an additional layer of masking removed

(big file, be patient)
thestargates.com...

here's the close up of the mask, showing the two figures in the ...whatever it is:






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posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by looofo
I found another picture if aristarchus crater, and... it is still a crater.



At two o clock in this picture there is a ridge that looks interesting. But as on most of the pictures we see, the resolution is too bad.


I think is more than a simply natural crater:

resized.filevend.com...
resized.filevend.com...


[edit on 23-12-2006 by tcgeek]



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 09:34 AM
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yandros.net...

Did anyone bother looking at this? Or are we all over Copernicus crater?

The animation is of the switching between the colour dataset and the black and white dataset of the center of Copernicus crater.

You need to have a pretty close look to see any real differences but there are some.

I have pointed the ones I have spotted out in this second version here:

yandros.net...

Be patient, they are little flash animations and take a few seconds to load!


Comments anyone? Did John Lear ever tell us if we found his elusive base?



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by undo
I thought checking for a mask on some of these might work and it seems I was right, but it's a rare occurence.

It would help if you told us what method you used to try to find the "masks", apparently you are only enhancing the compression artifacts.



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 10:05 AM
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Will you guys stop bickering and look at what I've found


Scroll up (and back) to see my last three posts.



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 01:38 PM
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Thank you Looofo, Clementine came thru again with this photo. The statues and structures are magnificent in this photo and it will take you a while to adjust your eyes to see them. This is the best pixel resolution I have seen on this particular visual from what you and Tcgeek presented. Rik Riley


[edit on 23-12-2006 by rikriley]



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 02:50 PM
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ArMap,

I split the channel to HSL, which separates the layers, if there are any, so that you can view the progress of the work. Layers are most common when a mask is used and that's one way to see what extent the mask was employed but not necessarily what it covered originally. That can often only be guesstimated, based on the shape of the mask. a mask is essentially a separate layer from the original and the final products. it goes something like this:

1 original
2 mask (there may be any number of masks in this position, or all the changes may be on one mask layer )
3 finished product

Yandros,

Yep, I see what you've found. Interesting.

Tcgeek,

Also very interesting.

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posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by tcgeek

Originally posted by looofo
I found another picture if aristarchus crater, and... it is still a crater.



At two o clock in this picture there is a ridge that looks interesting. But as on most of the pictures we see, the resolution is too bad.


I think is more than a simply natural crater:

resized.filevend.com...
resized.filevend.com...
Tcgeek @ the bottom of the so called crater ridge about 2/3 of the way over starting from the left of pic you will see an American Indian outline of a female face looking directly to the right and to the right a larger Mayan looking Male looking left. Now with the pic blown up go approx 1 and a half inches straight down from the ridge of the crater you will see a statue head of a mini Spartan looking character with his companion. The head dress of the so called looking Spartan has an elevated metalic looking ridge in the middle of helmet from front to back. Simular to the helmet used in the movie Spartacus. Rik Riley



[edit on 23-12-2006 by rikriley]



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 03:27 PM
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Here's an example of how splitting reveals layers that have been changed, painted over, pasted over and so on.

SPLIT CHANNEL HSL of (Crater Tycho maybe? )











posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by undo
I split the channel to HSL, which separates the layers, if there are any, so that you can view the progress of the work.

Have you tried this method with photos that you know for sure that were not and were not altered, to see if this is really a good method of finding changes to the photos?

I doubt that separating the Hue, Saturation and Lightness of the photo will reveal anything.



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Zarniwoop

I really enjoyed the Copernicus thread, as it shows copious evidence (not proof, of course) of a mining operation on the moon. I am glad that Z has documented this so well with the collaboration of others and hope that it is preserved and available for a long time. (keep paying your annual Network Solutions domain fee, Z)


Not to fear Zarni... the other thread will get new blood very soon... just have a lot of processing to do before posting. Found one of my missing links and have to track it all down

Happy Holidays to all from Pegasus Group

And pardon my typos over the next few days... that eggnog has a LOT of Myers in it...

AAARRRRR!



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by undo
I split the channel to HSL, which separates the layers, if there are any, so that you can view the progress of the work.

Have you tried this method with photos that you know for sure that were not and were not altered, to see if this is really a good method of finding changes to the photos?

I doubt that separating the Hue, Saturation and Lightness of the photo will reveal anything.


The layers are created and embedded in the whole process of color, light and saturation. One of those layers may reveal a mask. Which is what happened in the cases i posted.



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Yandros
yandros.net...

Did anyone bother looking at this? Or are we all over Copernicus crater?

Yes Yandros I did... just haven't had a chance to respond. Very good work... Can you tell me which way is North in your clip?

No we are not over Copernicus yet... Copernicus one of the main keys to this puzzle. So is Aristarchus and Farside Base 2209

But too much info at one time gets lost in the threads... its almost to much for me to process into a neat package, how can one expect the casual viewer to follow?

One thing that jumped out at me right away was the "puffs" that change drastically. Haven't had time to study it in detail, but 4 puffs and the thing in the middle scream out...

Now why didn't we think of that? LOL



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 04:23 PM
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Here's a normal photo, per your request, ArMap, on which SPLIT HSL has been employed.

Notice the second image is the mask of the thing that was pasted in. The thing pasted in is a photo of a desk.

First, the creation of the picture, in which a desk has been cut out of a photo and pasted into a blank canvas.



Then the application of the mask



And finally, the finished product



Notice the second image is HIDING the edges of the original photo that was pasted in to the canvas. That's the mask layer. There's one more step that I didn't include in which the new masked desk is shown in grayscale before the color / final layer is applied producing the final image of a desk in color.



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posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 04:40 PM
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You can do this at home, folks, by getting a graphics program of your own or learning how to use the one you have (that is, if you don't already know how to use one). There are several good ones out there, the most famous being:

Photoshop
Paintshop
Open Canvas

(in no particular order)

when using SPLIT HSL it may be necessary to lighten the mask layer. Oftentimes it'll appear as nothing but a black box, but a little "Gamma Correction" or "Brighten" brings it right out in the open. Sometimes there's simply nothing there because no mask has been applied or because a different route was taken to mask the data. An example being very old photos in which developer fluid was used on the negative, in which case no mask layer is available.


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posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by undo
You can do this at home, folks, by getting a graphics program of your own or learning how to use the one you have (that is, if you don't already know how to use one).

Thank you for your work to show us how to do it, but I am still not convinced of the efficiency of this technique to spot photo manipulation.

In the photo of your son that you posted some time ago in another thread this is what appears on the Hue channel.



Does this mean that something was masked on that photo or am I missing something?

Thanks.



posted on Dec, 23 2006 @ 05:39 PM
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For those having trouble seeing the "figures" i posted earlier, here it is in gold so you can see it better. They look like sphinxes. From overhead, they appear to be wearing something on their heads, maybe even egyptian things on their heads. I believe it's a male lion and female lioness, side by side.



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