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posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by Bagoose
Yeah the Leclerc is an amazing tank!

re: Cost effectivness of Leopard 2 A6 EX:

I get most of my information from the Janes.com Subscribers site (bloody expensive!) which it is impossible to hotlink to or download txt info off! Cant even copy and paste...


I trust Janes though...


sorry but i dont know what you are talking about.



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 09:50 AM
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just go to www,janes.com mate. Its all there!



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Bagoose
just go to www,janes.com mate. Its all there!


go site with info.

but i am not a subscriber and how you said you have to pay to subscribe.



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO
A tank flying through the air and firing at the same time!

sure looks impressive.

I doubt you could hit anything doing that.


You doubt anything that is Russian...



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:14 PM
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Russian,

no offense but once a gun loses its stability it would have trouble hitting anything, unless it is shooting a missile with a guidance system in it etc.

even when they show a tank shooting a distant target with assistance of a second laser guided positioning device the tank is always fixed to its position.

this is all academic anyways. I am not sure that tanks will be a big factor in future wars anyways.



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:21 PM
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theneo, tanks will always be a part of battle in the near future.

But I think even when they might not be used they will always be made, because they are proven and reliable.



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO
Russian,

no offense but once a gun loses its stability it would have trouble hitting anything, unless it is shooting a missile with a guidance system in it etc.

even when they show a tank shooting a distant target with assistance of a second laser guided positioning device the tank is always fixed to its position.

this is all academic anyways. I am not sure that tanks will be a big factor in future wars anyways.




tanks are the future to war...


if not then what is...?



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:41 PM
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Russian,

good question, the future of war?

I have a feeling that airpower will get more and more important.

Submarines will be very important as well as aircraft carriers. Battleships NO. Smaller faster ships with advanced weapons will be in.

Army will have robots and many more different types of vehicles (especially fast and able to traverse varied terrain), and probably use a lot of drone aircraft too.

but who am I to say, I am no expert.



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:50 PM
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Tanks are the best way to pack a mobile reliable punch....
they have big guns, and are highly mobile



posted on Dec, 9 2003 @ 11:57 PM
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Maybe tanks or a new type of tank?

I see in future where speed and invisibility and precision will be most important. It will not matter how big the bang is when you are faster and more precise than the enemy.



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 12:01 AM
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yea, perhaps you are right, theneo


what you say makes sense



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by THENEO
Maybe tanks or a new type of tank?

I see in future where speed and invisibility and precision will be most important. It will not matter how big the bang is when you are faster and more precise than the enemy.


I disagree...

cause if there is a small gun that pricise it will take alot of hits to stop a tank...

but i will agree that the tanks are going toward faster, better manverablity, and strong guns...

also they could just stay with the 140mm but make the charge fly faster thus have more percing volicity.



sorry for my spelling...



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 06:04 PM
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i still think challenger 2 is best



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 06:11 PM
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Leopard 2A6 EX is.



And Challenger comes somewhere after T-80/90s and US M1/M1A1/M1A2.. (Maybe even after LeLerc..)



Challengers are fine, but they are far from the best.
(But their crews are top of the line.. like all UK armed forces.. at least UK tankers are better than US ones..)




posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 06:14 PM
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Well that�s your opinion because I read day in day out that the challenger 2 is the most reliable tank in the world with the best standard armor period.

Hell even discovery channel knows it.



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by mooeuro
Well that?s your opinion because I read day in day out that the challenger 2 is the most reliable tank in the world with the best standard armor period.

Hell even discovery channel knows it.


It is brittish tank..



Im trying to be nice here but:

All the most #ed up tanks have come from UK.

All the best tanks from Germany and Russia..

And this 'theory' still hold water.



And wtf has Discovery channel has to do with anything?

Its program are so 'low-tech' (are made for idiots..) that in where i live, it would be an insult to even show those programs to little kids.




posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 06:41 PM
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Was it at this topic that i talked about how USA is spying on Leopards and trying to take over that Spannish factory?



Here:

Spain has ordered 219 Leopard 2A6. The first 30 are being built by KMW, the rest will be license-built in Spain by General Dynamics, Santa Barbara Sistemas (GDSBS).



Looks like they were successful..




posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 06:48 PM
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(takes deep breath and then releases slowly..........)

www.vickersdefence.co.uk...

Key phrase in the read here is "features that make the Challenger the world�s most reliable and technically advanced main battle tank"



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 07:08 PM
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On a second note when trying to cream some one or make them feel bad. Please to use statements that are relevant to topic.

Example u saying something about Britain releasing some "not really up to scratch tanks in the past" well what the hell was that all about. because I know deep down in my heart that I was talking about the challenger 2 series tanks and not other past tanks of Britain.



posted on Dec, 10 2003 @ 08:17 PM
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Ok mooeuro if you say that challenger is the best...

Then prove it with INFO...



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