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Originally posted by jsobecky
So could you, marg, so I don't really know what you are trying to defend here. Esp. when you're always so proud of your husband's service to his country.
Originally posted by XphilesPhan
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
This thread brings up an interesting issue of how much personal responsibility soldiers should take for the blunders of the US government. I am not saying that people should spit on soldiers or that every US soldier has murdered or otherwise directly harmed innocent Iraqis, but we should question whether they are truly blameless. On one hand, many soldiers do not approve of the USA's blunders in Iraq, so they should not be personally blamed for incidents like Abu graib or the killings in Haditha. Many are serving in Iraq against their will and would not serve if they had the option. On the other hand, "just following orders" is not a valid excuse.
Your thoughts?
Well, since the soldiers usually come from poor social classes, often to protect those of your ilk and are then betrayed by the very people they are sent to protect, no they arent blameless. They shouldnt be so willing to give their lives for a group of people who would not fight for their country even were it absolutely necessary.
Originally posted by JackJuice
Your dispicable, My father came home after vietnam and landed in california only to be spit on by a long haired hippy.
Originally posted by rdang
Here go the Kerry type liberals defending this pos's actions.
Well it did happen,and more than once.But as usual liberal types....
Originally posted by dgtempe
I've met quite a few VietNam vets, and
not one was ever spat on before. That's BS. This woman is an isolated incident- a pig.
Originally posted by dgtempe
I've met quite a few VietNam vets, and
not one was ever spat on before. That's BS. This woman is an isolated incident- a pig.
The spitting woman obviously felt so insulted by the presence of a uniformed soldier in her face that she forgot that he to was a thinking and feeling human being.
Originally posted by marg6043
Giving away her address violating her privacy means nothing to any of you for what I see.
Originally posted by BASSPLYR
hope people show up at her house wearing belaclavas (so they don't get in trouble)and spit in her face at random times and for no reason.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
how much personal responsibility soldiers should take for the blunders of the US government. I am not saying that people should spit on soldiers or that every US soldier has murdered or otherwise directly harmed innocent Iraqis, but we should question whether they are truly blameless.
Originally posted by dgtempe
I've met quite a few VietNam vets, and not one was ever spat on before. That's BS.
I speak the truth and never have i met anyone who served in VietNam who was spat upon. I married a marine, he had his buddies from Camp LeJeune and other bases who still visit to this day, we frequented the VFW before we had kids and not ONCE have i heard of this.
Originally posted by PapaHomer
And dg, shame on you for dismissing what has happened to some Vietnam Vets as BS, only because those you know were not spit upon. Until you have met every single one, you cannot say what has happened to all.
Originally posted by marg6043
Originally posted by jsobecky
So could you, marg, so I don't really know what you are trying to defend here. Esp. when you're always so proud of your husband's service to his country.
Very simple, JS, something that you have not seen . . .
How this story has brought a part of human nature that brings only the negative part of one and each of us.
While some are very clear on the dislike of the woman in question . . . for her actions. . . if this has been done on a none military . . . would it have made it into the news and on this thread? JS.
Now what it bothers me and I believe it should raise concerns on others isThis type of sentiment when somebody post about having some type of violent action . . . against the woman in question. . . that. . . comes to mind.
Why did she walk to the soldier and asked him if he was from Fort Drum and them spit on him .
What is so special about been from that particular place?
Does anybody knows, for what I see is something that trouble the woman about that particular place and perhaps She could very well be a nut case.
Originally posted by marg6043
I will like to have more information on the incident, because I don't know about you JS . . . but is sounds kind of weird that she before spiting on the soldier in question. . . .
Why did she walk to the soldier and asked him if he was from Fort Drum and them spit on him .
What is so special about been from that particular place?
Does anybody knows, for what I see is something that trouble the woman about that particular place and perhaps She could very well be a nut case.
Originally posted by 11Bravo
Still not one link to any credible source of an actual documented case of a Vietnam soldier being spit on?
Where is the evidence to back up these claims?
Originally posted by 11Bravo
Its amazing how all these people say 'it happend to me' or 'it happened to my father' but there is not one bit of actual factual evidence.
I would like to apollogize for calling your belief an URBAN LEGEND, but I cant do that until you give me something, ANYTHING to go on, other than hear-say.
All Im asking for is one link to something other then a Blog.
YOur 'Vietnam vets were spit on' story would not hold up in any court.
And NO, its not just because I have never seen it happen. Its because every single Vietnam Vet I have talked to IN PERSON says that it didnt happen.
DOnt you think that if it DID happen, especially if it was as widespread as some of you seem to think it was, that there would be atleast ONE news story about it?
I mean seriously, if this did happen and now we cant find ANY RECORD of it, then there must be a conspiracy to hide the evidence right?
A conspiracy of great magnitude to cleanse all news sources, police records and historical documents of all references to Vietnam Vets being spit on?
Now Im sure some of you will keep believeing this myth, but as for me, I need a little more than unsubstantiated claims and hear-say. Besides, a conspiracy to cleanse all public records would be too vast to ever work, and there is no way they could remove all records of an event that some people think happend on a daily basis.
[edit on 10-12-2006 by 11Bravo]