i think there is a middle ground here with the water droplet theory and the professional manipulating.

it could be that someone higher up made a highly professionaly manipulated photo but to throw another wrench in the cogs made the ufo like like an easily indentified object such as a raindrop. its indentifiable yet ambigious enough make everyone scratch their heads. if confusion is the game then that seems plausible.

Originally posted by Crakeur
has anyone thought about contacting the reporter to alert them to the photo(s) and to possibly get their thoughts for the site?

I for one have an open mind, but unless an eyewitness, from the airport that saw the UFO, took a picture of it himself and went on record......it's all hear/say.

Think about it! hmmmm we think this picture might have come from the O'hare sighting.......so take our word for it. The media and skeptics would have a field day with hear/say.

The O'hare incident had many witnesses, so I hope that the government isn't putting the dis-info out there to muddy the waters.

I think it is ok for people to discuss this hear, but trying to draw publicity on something you can't prove or have an eyewitness back, is just ruining credibility.

Global warming can account for all of the greenery in the Chicago area that is seen in the photo. Just check the weather records for the area of Chicago and it should be apparent that the winter has been a mild one.

Originally posted by RealtruthThink about it! hmmmm we think this picture might have come from the O'hare sighting.......so take our word for it. The media and skeptics would have a field day with hear/say.

The O'hare incident had many witnesses, so I hope that the government isn't putting the dis-info out there to muddy the waters.

I think it is ok for people to discuss this hear, but trying to draw publicity on something you can't prove or have an eyewitness back, is just ruining credibility.

and if the reporter digs a bit and finds out that the pics are coming from gov't disinfo agents, you get a story. if the reporter finds that the pics are genuine and the object in question is unexplained and the gov't and faa knew about it and did nothing, there's a story as to why. if they learn that the photos are hoaxes and the story is a dead end, there's nothing to report but the reporter didn't miss out on the scoop of century

they report the news. if there's a possible story, the research and dig to determine if there is more than meets the eye.

look at it this way. if you uncovered this incident and you were being interviewed and getting requests for info from around the globe, from media and governments, as the reporter claimed in one interview, would you let this die without doing more research into every single possible lead, no matter how ludicrous it might seem at the time?

If you guys keep posting Fakes, this will kill off credibility of ATS. I have been seeing Hoax alerts on Coasttocoast and Rense about the ATS pics. That tarnishes the ATS name, and any "real" footage or pics in the future will not hold credibility.

But then again, what can one do? Nothing!

Originally posted by Fiverz
I was gonna post that image rotated 8 to 10 degrees to show you that it does make a difference ... but ... it doesn't haha. Most of the drops actually still look parallel to the ground when rotated by that small of an angle. Well I thought I had ruled something out, now I'm back to the very beginning of the thread and having no idea what I'm looking at.

Are ou sure that inside airplane, which is landing or getting away (moving fast), water drops on the window will behave the same way as on the static ground, i.e. on your appartment window?

[edit on 26-1-2007 by sergejsh]

Originally posted by Fiverz
You forget though that 9/11 didn't have the religious implications that a nationally-televised UFO event would have. You pretty much pull the rug out from under 84% of the world's population with a UFO attack.

True, but 9/11 was instigated by and, supposedly, executed by a religious sect. The Holy war and all that, and the infidels!

Seems like it was religious based and the religious implications are wide reaching, maybe not as wide reaching as ET, but still pretty damn wide.

[edit on 26-1-2007 by phanton]

I will say that the pictures look to be from the commercial side of the airport near Irving Park Road.

The Phoenix Lights footage was far more believable than what we're seeing with these pictures, and thousands upon thousands of witnesses saw it. What happened there.......nothing! There were no BS pictures made of that event, why would anyone think this is more important. As Spock would say "this is very illogical.".

This isn't disinfo, it's a sham. Who exactly is perpetrating it is the real question.

Peace

Originally posted by The Coward
If you guys keep posting Fakes, this will kill off credibility of ATS. I have been seeing Hoax alerts on Coasttocoast and Rense about the ATS pics. That tarnishes the ATS name, and any "real" footage or pics in the future will not hold credibility.

But then again, what can one do? Nothing!

You have to post pictures to find if they are credible or not, there are many on ATS who have a high degree of knowledge in photography / imagery and many other members who probably touch on most other sciences going.

The credibility comes from ATS members been able to discuss and discern the fakes from the real in whatever subject is discussed, I'm not a specialist in anything just a normal working guy, and I for one learn a lot from the discussions on here about various subjects and pictures posted, it helps me to see a gazillion different ways to look and think about things.

Wolfie

Originally posted by The Coward
If you guys keep posting Fakes, this will kill off credibility of ATS.

No more than it already is. ATS is a product of the people. If the people post fakes and we all just sit back and say WOW that's fantastic, and don't question, then ATS is doomed regardless.

Originally posted by The Coward
I have been seeing Hoax alerts on Coasttocoast and Rense about the ATS pics. That tarnishes the ATS name, and any "real" footage or pics in the future will not hold credibility.

What credible witness is going to post on ATS when they could hold out for big bucks from the media? Hoaxers that’s who!

Originally posted by The Coward
But then again, what can one do? Nothing!

Wrong, question everything! Show up the hoaxers for who they are! The mainstream would do the same; they would find out how easy it is to hoax any given photo and 'reproduce' it and look at the results. Only where photos are backed up by actual credible witnesses will anything change.

Originally posted by Dr Love
why would anyone think this is more important.

It's more important because it occurred in one of the largest and busiest airports in the world in one of the largest and busiest cities in the world..Chicago. That is what makes it so significant. This did not occur on a little farm in a remote area, this happened at the very hub of air-traffic in this country.

The weather for those interested in the conditions and future photo anaysis.

Hourly weather observation at O'Hare at 4:51 pm

METAR KORD 072251Z 23004KT 5SM HZ OVC019 12/09 A2980 RMK AO2 SLP092 T01170089

Metar shows:

Visiblity 5 miles, Overcast, Haze, Ceiling 1900 feet

The sunset was: 10:38 PM UTC or 4:38 CST

Sounds like the light is fading under overcast sky and haze. No the best viewing weather.

Originally posted by SkyWay
It's more important because it occurred in one of the largest and busiest airports in the world in one of the largest and busiest cities in the world..Chicago. That is what makes it so significant. This did not occur on a little farm in a remote area, this happened at the very hub of air-traffic in this country.

Um, Phoenix is far from a little farm in a remote area, and the lights were visible from alot more than just our also very busy airport, Sky Harbor. It wasn't just a handful of employees at an airport (not that it isn't enough to be sure something was seen) that witnessed it, it was a pretty consistent sighting from Nevada to pretty much Mexico.

Originally posted by 27jd

Um, Phoenix is far from a little farm in a remote area,

It is compared to Chicago. And if anyone is going to devote any time to a place the size of a Chicago suburb then it merits at least as much attention when a ufo appears over a great metro area like Chicago at an airport that is crowded with air-traffic landing and taking off.

Originally posted by Crakeur
Is it not odd that the reporter who broke the story, and then did a round of interviews has been silent for so long?

'vacation' could just be a cover story?

possible reasons why the reporter would
drop out of sight.

- waiting for further contact/info

- book deal with the witness/es

- further investigations(unfettered/'undercover')

- editors order

- writing 'scoop' piece for his paper

and
- Gov. involvement

Originally posted by SkyWay
It is compared to Chicago. And if anyone is going to devote any time to a place the size of a Chicago suburb then it merits at least as much attention when a ufo appears over a great metro area like Chicago at an airport that is crowded with air-traffic landing and taking off.

Well, not to be off topic, but a city of over one million is a remote farm compared to a city of two million? Not to mention sightings were reported throughout the state....

I flew from ORD on 11/15/2006 United 668 to New York, left from C gates (15 I think)

It had been really mild here, not even a hard cold snap yet, there was still a lot of green trees from what I remember on the whole drive up and in the Joliet area as well. As well as on 294 before the 190.

We did not get that big blast of snow until Thanksgiving, but prior to that it had been really mild.

Annuals had turned to gold and amber colors in mid Oct around 15th or so. But there are some evergreens that are still green even today 1/26/07.