Why? we have understood the principles since Nicola Tesla... what makes you think our black ops boys haven't come a long way?

Why? Because this is what our secret government has done. " Think outside the box". Until we do " The public " We'll never understand why there's not a sonic boom with ufo's.

Sure of this are you? You might want to snoop around the white papers at Los Alamos National Laboratory and the Air Force Research Lab before making statements like that...

O.K . I souldn't have put aliens or E.T's in that paragraph. I know the secret government has stuff that would blow our minds. I've read the white papers and much more. My opinion the air force had outside help.

Wanna bet?

Wanna bet what? A ufo is a ufo. whether it be alienware or black ops hardware.

And this is just one small PUBLIC release... you would be amazed what they aren't telling you

I'm already amazed at all the secrets and conspiracies.

[edit on 3/9/2007 by Solarskye]

Does Springer or anyone else have any insight to when this O'Hare incident will be broadcast on the Discovery Channel program??

This incident was soooo HUGE.....now it's pretty much dead. What happened?? I guess time wears away at people's memory.....the brain cells wear away for given events.

So what's the latest?? Can Springer tell us something from his time in Chicago?? Is he still there?? Did he interview other United Airline workers (maybe Air Traffic Controllers) that may have reveal additional info that we currently do not know?? Did he meet with other interviewEES for the program?

Spring did mention in his interview with Rabbit that he stepped away from the bounds of passengers exiting the plane on the tarmac, thereby talking to Terminal C workers....by the way, that really is odd. You actually left the plane from a "roll-up stairway" and onto the tarmac, and not through the typical tunnel gate??

I travel often, and I can not remember the last time I had to leave a large plane without a tunnel walkway.

What other news is there about this.....I would think that Springer could give us some info during the course of his stay in the great city of Chicago.

Originally posted by MachXX
. You actually left the plane from a "roll-up stairway" and onto the tarmac, and not through the typical tunnel gate??

I travel often, and I can not remember the last time I had to leave a large plane without a tunnel walkway.

happens generally if you are on a small "puddle jumper" plane (turbo prop or smaller jet)

matter of fact, happened to me 3 times on my last trip. if you are going to smaller airports or from them, they dont always have the tunnel type entrances to the plane. fly to aberdeen south dakota sometime and you'll see what i mean.

OK, but we know that Springer went to a very large airport (one of the largest in the world) Chicago's OHare. Did Springer fly from a "puddle jumper" to Chicago??

That's the question, did he? One usually only rides these small planes only on short trips....to small airports.

Is this what Springer did??

Anything new here?

Waiting to see Springers appearance on Disc. Channel!

Originally posted by MachXX
Does Springer or anyone else have any insight to when this O'Hare incident will be broadcast on the Discovery Channel program??

I believe he said it's expected to air in July.

Originally posted by zorgonI think we have to think outside the box and not compare ufo's to what we know.

Zorgon, if I knew you were here I might have paid more attention...but alas, I would never expect thee to be elsewhere

That is just it. This complex system of camoflage is always ahead of the curve of public knowledge.

Just remember, space compresses and expands too, and so does all the # inside also.

Springer's going to be on the Discovery Channel? That's awesome! I'm happy to see some progress in this topic, although it didn't go the way I wanted it to go, with all these fake photographs, I'm glad to have a partial conclusion.

I'm the 2008 replier!

-Jimmy-

I am not surpised that the Ohare sighting, has died off to a faint mumble....
it is sop for the powers to simply igore an incident to death!
Without the co-operation of ET, we cannot hold the attention of the populace longer than several news casts and a newspaper article or two....
After that it becomes OLD NEWS
And everyone knows old news is not interesting to the general pop.
They need fresh stimulus every day to keep going along at the fever pitch we are taught to live our lives....
Even huge time requirements are deleted from articles, and theyare presented as imminent dangers in order to capture air time or page space.
Any type of omission of the pertinent facts is permissable in order to make news appear more pressing and current.
as well as adding untold sensationalism to what we call the news.
Nobody would take much heed of things not presented in such a way these days.

I think over 100 pages is hardly a faint rumble. But until another one pops up over an airport, or some dramatic new witness accounts come out, there isn't a whole lot to talk about with this story. As it will have relatively substantial funding, the upcoming documentary should be a show that can't be missed.

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Originally posted by MachXX
OK, but we know that Springer went to a very large airport (one of the largest in the world) Chicago's OHare. Did Springer fly from a "puddle jumper" to Chicago??

That's the question, did he? One usually only rides these small planes only on short trips....to small airports.

Is this what Springer did??

That's exactly what I did.

I flew United Express to O'hare in a Bombardier regional jet (2 seats on either side of the very narrow aisle). Anyone who has been to O'hare knows the first two "gates" in the United hub terminals are outdoors with rolling stairways, you cant miss them when you look out on the tarmac, they are about 30 yards from the buildings.

I got off the plane, on the tarmac, at C-2 (!) , I was literally standing under where the thing was sighted back in November.

The air date for the TV Show is set for June 29th at the moment, TV schedules are pretty flexible things this far in advance however, if there is any change to that date Ill update here.

To those who think someone or something is "silencing" this story, exactly HOW are they doing it?

There's NOTHING out there to report, not a single new witness has come forward with a new image inspite of the repeated requests, on TV, National Radio Broadcasts, News Paper articles, etc... So what is their to "keep people at the feverish pitch" with?

NOTHING...

The couple million people a month who come to ATS were the next best hope we had for that happen but obviously the people who have the images are not interested in presenting them, dam little anyone can actually DO about that.

The FACT everyone Ive spoken with in Chicago, at the airport, on the phone, etc... has claimed that United put the squelch on the incident by threatening to sack anyone who publicly talked about it doesnt help any either.

Hey Springer, thanks for the update. I am saddened to hear that there were no more witnesses to be found after all of this time for the show.

By the way, whatever happened to poster "Eyewitness"? If I recall correctly, she was slated to appear on the program(?), but then you all lost communication with her 1 or 2 days before shooting?? Did you all hear from her again?

Anyways, I am still greatly looking forward to the show.... very excited about watching it!!

Springer, please make sure we end up seeing it in Australia.

Thanks, mate.

Originally posted by MachXX

By the way, whatever happened to poster "Eyewitness"? If I recall correctly, she was slated to appear on the program(?), but then you all lost communication with her 1 or 2 days before shooting?? Did you all hear from her again?

That's a great question I wish I knew the answer to. She was having health issues but the last time I talked to her she told me she had got out of the hospital and was doing okay, then nothing.

Sam, the MUFON Illinois State Director, hadnt been able to get through to her either. I really DO hope she is okay, she was a very nice lady and funny as heck!

Springer...

yesterday 3/30 I flew into the Ohare C5 gate on Canadair CJ700 operated by United Express.

A United employee I spoke to, "edwin" a flight attendant, said he regularly comes to chicago and in fact lives there. I asked him what the latest news was on the event from November 2006 and he was quite puzzled.

I said you know the ufo over C7 gate that was spotted by United staff in November. He said never heard anything about it, said wow for about 1 second then proceeded to have a conversation with an off duty flight attendant who happened to be on our plane about their training classes etc.

regarding the tower having the ability to visably see the object over the gate I walked just past C9 where there is a bank of newspaper racks and two large windows.

From here you can look out across the tarmac and see the Hilton, B wing Gate B2 a very large tarmac space and both "BOTH" towers.

The distance from the C gate to the tower located to the right on the "B" wing is greater then 1,000 feet according to my basic golf range finder.

with a tower height of 200' (a guess) and a direct line of sight to the C gate they should have had no problem seeing the object in the air at the 800-1000 foot claimed elevation.

the other tower set further back and closer to the hilton should have had an even better field of view.

also Gate C9 is the bus transportation point to E/F terminals and operates from 6am to 10pm and runs about every 10 minutes, this means that the gate right next to C7, there "could" have been up to 10 passengers walking outside to the little shuttle bus, although if the object was high overhead or even slightly behind them over the terminal chances are they would have no indicator to look up while trying to board the shuttle to catch their other flights.

and at 7:30am the sun was rising almost directly behind and to the left of the hilton.... this is important because I think the sighting occured in the late afternoon and the sun would have been setting behind C terminal as this would be west, thus towers, the parking lot, people in B terminal etc would have been looking directly into the sun's exposure which would make observing any object in the sky difficult.

But the day had mild cloud cover so the sun was being blocked by cloud cover...

[edit on 31-3-2007 by robertfenix]