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Originally posted by NeoSocialist
I have just sat and watched the film
A few months ago I mocked someone who posted a thread regarding a controlled explosion bringing down the towers.
Its not just this film, its many more just like it, and its other things like the inititial desire by the feds to forgo an investigation. Its the shoddy 9/11 commission, the piss-poor NIST report, the lack of media coverage about serious questions and so on.
After watching this film I think there is more evidence pointing towards this being an 'inside job' than against.
Just watching tower 7 coming down in such a fashion gave me butterflies in my stomach.
What can we do about this though ?
Apart from passing on the information.
Originally posted by 2PacSade
Yes it's very strange how the top of the building implodes like that.
I guess it was due to the impact of the plane, and the ensueing fires that weakened the steel enough for the hat truss, and the 47 boxed columns underneath it to totally collapse with great symetry.
As far as WTC 7 is concerned. . .
Shhhhh. . .
Originally posted by the smoking beagle
Now one thing has got me thinking. Les Robertson, one of the deigners of WTC says that it couldnt have collapsed. The guy from UL says the steel is up to spec and couldnt have collapsed. The impression I get is that everybody involved with the buildings construction says it couldnt have collapsed.
...Both groups either say they were wrong and face possible lawsuits, or they just keep saying it couldnt have happened.
Originally posted by the smoking beagle
Hi Rich23 thanks for the reply.
Well for starters, I havent got any theory to advance I'm just sitting here sharing my thoughts and speculations to see what you all think. I havent really thought about 911 before, but found this site, read some threads and watched those films. That got me thinking (not a good idea:lol
Les Robertson when questioned about the collapse, says that he designed WTC to withstand a 707 impact. The films go on to prove that a 767 couldn't have brought the buildings down. A fire couldn't have brought the buildings down. But they fell down anyway.Poor design? Why not? If it is, then old Les has a lot to loose. Reputation for starters, and like I said before the possibilty of law suits. And no Rich23, as far as I'm aware theres nothing on the web relating to Les being sued for the WTC collapse. Hey he even helped NIST do wind load calcs on the WTC
NIST press release clickety click!
A conflict of interest? Or the best man for the job?
Now the guy from UL. Yes he was fired.
You say it makes sense "in terms of poweful forces silencing a dissenting voice" Thinking about it I'd say yes, you could be right. But my take of the "silencing" is of a man who was drawing attention to his companies role in the certification process and saying "Hey, its all OK 'cos it's properly certified!" UL don't want attention drawn to their certification process.
"Nothing to see here, move along!"
Why not? The buildings collapse and your reputation could be damaged. The guy thought he was doing them a favour. They see it as attention drawn to them at the wrong time.
Now WTC 7. That could have been CD. Old Larry sees a chance to cash in the insurance, gets some guys in from the mob. BOOM!! Laughing all the way to the bank!
So Rich23 thats my random thoughts of "a bear with little brain".
Was it all controlled demolition and govt conspiracy?
I don't know.
Was it bad design, years of poor maintenance and then a cover up to protect the guilty?
It's simpler than suitcase nukes.
Originally posted by magicmushroom
Hi Rich, Your thread made me think of a couple of things, one, people above the impact floors were obviously unijured so one presumes the structure must be ok as per the mobile calls. The second is have any of the families of loved ones lost mentioned anything in conversations with people in the buildings, I mean the occupants would of been unaware of the impending collapse so they would of continued with their calls untill the buildings fell.
There must of been hundreds of people making calls to home and family right up to the point of collapse, surely some must have mentioned hearing explosions in the building or anything else. I find it very strange that no one has come forward with such information, it must exist if only in the minds of family relatives. These poor souls would have assumed that they were going to be rescued so I'm sure they would have relayed the events as they were happening.
Have family members been told to keep quite on this matter, have they recieved threats etc. There must be some info regarding this matter so why have we not heard anything after 5 years especially in light of the lets rock phone call.