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Originally posted by wildcat
For the Jews, there was Moses (or Abraham), for Islam there was Muhammad, for Buddism there was Buddha, Confucianism there is Confucius, Taoism - Laozi, and last, Jesus of Christianity.
Isn't it funny that all those religions have a person who founded the religion? Jesus appears to be just another face in the crowd.
1. Of, relating to, or resembling: Bostonian.
2. One relating to, belonging to, or resembling: academician.
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
Originally posted by runetang
YHWH is "I AM" , Jesus had flesh, his flesh died. It broke down just like other dead people's flesh does, to give nutrients to the surrounding plants and animals .. large and small. Like my flesh will, like yours will, unless it isn't charred. But enough about all this dead flesh.. because people are going to start harping on me saying "But when Jesus resurrected he went to heaven body and all .." Silly I say, to think a man in the flesh he was born in existing in Heaven.
Back to the light of the source. If any of you are lucky enough to see Heaven, you will find Jesus there, but he will be at the side of God, he will be God's hand, God being YHWH, the God of the Jews, the God of Old Testament. The one God, the God of Islam.
And at Judgement which we will all find ourselves whether we like it or not, Jesus will be asked by God if he taught that he indeed was God, the creator, and to be worshipped as such on Earth by us. He will deny this, and frankly if the scriptures neatly spell out that Jesus said he was God then I cry lies and sabotage, I refuse to think he was crazy. He couldn't be, he was divinely guided, sent, and remains to this day. He exists right now. But he didn't create the Universe.. and he didn't tell us to worship the image of his dead or dying flesh pinned to a wooden crucifix at the front of the congregation.
[edit on 12/5/2006 by runetang]
Christianity assumed its orthodoxy under the decisions of the Roman emperor and the church councils in the fourth century by introducing various creeds and canons to the church. Clearly, the orthodoxy of the early church was intensely associated with political and other pressures.
By using the pesher method, a technique whereby texts were cited and then rewritten and reinterpreted in ways quite different from the original sense, the writers and compilers of various texts were able to invent, interpret or embellish stories which could be tailored to specific purpose or prophecy. However, it was an acceptable practice in those days. Hence, various texts were cited from different sources and then rewritten and reinterpreted according to the writer's personal convictions.
Originally posted by thehumbleone
Nope, sorry, Jesus is God, he said so, is it so hard to believe God could come down from heaven?
Remember, the creator is always greater than the creation, so God can humble himself more than any other person.
Originally posted by southern_cross3
It is not conjecture. It's truth. Stop relying on false intellectuality and start relying on faith, it works much better for religion.