Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Bush is secretly a Jew
Originally posted by Vitchilo
This is exactly what I said. They are not at all catholic, they are satanic/power hungry moran with no respect at all for any lifeform.
Originally posted by DeMitsuko
just to be fair i must say that i think that the world would be better off without religion.
thats just wouldnt happen. not in the near future that is.
The history of the native American race under the Spanish
power in North America has never yet been written with the
slightest approach to thoroughness.
Mexico and Guatemala, which everywhere was inspired by two
ruling sentiments-detestation of the Spaniards and hatred of
the Christian religion.
In their eyes the latter was but a cloak for the exactions,
massacres and oppressions exerted by the former. To them the
sacraments of the Church were the outward signs of their own
subjugation and misery. They revolted against these rites in
open hatred, or received them with secret repugnance and contempt.
In the Mexican figurative manuscripts composed after
the conquest the rite of baptism is constantly depicted as the
symbol of religious persecution.
The act of baptism is always inserted in their records of battles and
massacres. Everywhere it conveys the same idea,-making evident to
the reader that tile pretext for all the military expeditions of the Spaniards
was the enforced conversion to Christianity of the natives ; a pretext on
which the Spaniards seized in order to possess themselves of the land and
its treasure, to rob the Indians of their wives and daughters, to enslave
them, and to spill their blood without remorse or remission. One of these
documents, dated in 1526, adds a trait of savage irony. A Spanish soldier
is represented dragging a fugitive Indian from a lake by a lasso
around his neck ; while on the shore stands a monk ready to baptize the
recreant on his arrival
Such are the words of the Bishop of Chiapas. We learn
from his thoroughly instructed and unimpeachable testimony
that at the beginning of the eighteenth century Nagualism
was a widespread and active institution among the Indians of
southern Mexico ; that it was taught and practiced by professors
who were so much feared and respected that, as he tells us
in another passage, they were called “masters of the towns;”
that they gave systematic instruction to disciples in classes of
three, all of whom were bound together by pledges of mutual
information and assistance ; that a fundamental principle of the
organization and an indispensable step in the initiation into its
mysteries was the abjuration of the Christian religion, and an
undying hatred to its teachers and all others of the race of the
white oppressors; and that when they made use of Christian
phrases or ceremonies it was either in derision or out of hypocrisy,
the better to conceal their real sentiments
"There are certain bad Christians of both sexes who do not hesitate to
follow the school of the Devil, and to occupy themselves with evil arts,
divinations, sorceries, conjuring, enchantments, fortune-telling, and
other means to forecast the future.
"These are those who in all the provinces of New Spain are known by
the name of Nagualists
The Bishop writes :
"The Indians of New Spain retain all the errors of their time of heathenism
preserved in certain writings in their own languages, explaining
by abbreviated characters and by figures painted in a secret cypher he
places, provinces and names of their early rulers, the animals, stars and
elements which they worshiped, the ceremonies, and sacrifices which
they observed, and the years, months and days by which they predicted
the fortunes of children at birth, and assign them that which they call
tlie Naguals. These writings are known as Repertories or Calendars,
and they are also used to discover articles lost or stolen, and to effect
cures of diseases. Some have a wheel painted in them, like that of Pythagoras,
described by the Venerable Bede ; others portray a lake surrounded
by the Naguals in the form of various animals. Some of the
Nagualist Masters claim as their patron and ruler Cuchulchan, and they
possessed a certain formula of prayer to him, written in the Popoluca
tongue (which was called Baha in their lime of heathenism), and which
has been translated into Mexican.
" Those who are selected to become the masters of these arts are taught
from early childhood how to draw and paint these characters, and are
obliged to learn by heart the formulas, and the names ot the ancient
Nagualists, and whatever else is included in these written documents,
many of which we have held in our hands, and have heard them explained
by such masters whom we had imprisoned for their guilt, and
who had afterwards become converted and acknowledged their sins.
I have referred in some detail to the rites and superstitions
Connected with the Calendar because they are all essential
Parts of Nagualism, carried on far into Christian times by the
Priests of this secret cult, as was fully recognized by the Catholic
Clergy. Where ever this calendar was in use, the Freemasonry
Of Nagualism extended, and its ritual had constant reference to
It. Our fullest information about it does not come from central
Mexico, but further south, in the region occupied by the
Various branches of the Mayan stock, by the ancestors of some
One of which, perhaps, this singular calendar, and the symbolism
Connected with it, were invented.
We cannot err in regarding Oztoteotl as merely another name
of the Nahuatl divinity, Tepeyollotl, the Heart, or Inside, of the
Mountain, who in the Codex Borgia and the Codex Vaticanus
is represented seated upon or in a cavern.
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Bush attend almost every year Bohemian Grove so he's a satanist. He's not christian, not a jew, he's zionist and a satanist. He only portrait himself as a catholic because he want the religious people to vote for him.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
I also believe he can be whatever the heck religion he wants to be.
[edit on 12/4/2006 by FlyersFan]
Originally posted by firebat
Bush and co. like to send little signals by the books they carry. I'm not saying that the picture is real... I'm more likely to believe it's fake. HOWEVER, it is well-known that Bush, Rove etc. like to walk past the White House Press or arrive at a press-briefing with a carefully-selected book under their arm. The famous one is the time Bush walked through the White House Lawn on his way to Marine 1 and under his arm was the book 'BIAS' strategically placed so that the media could get a good look at it... the implication being, the Media is liberally biased etc.
The Protestant monopoly on this year's major presidential candidates may seem an aberration. John F. Kennedy's election supposedly cracked the religious wall in presidential politics, and the overt prejudice that barred Catholics, Jews, and Mormons from national elective politics has disappeared. Jews, who used to obsess about the first Jewish president, no longer think about the issue. Presidential campaigns have become as ecumenical as a Unitarian seder. Since JFK, candidates have been Mormon (Orrin Hatch), Jewish (Arlen Specter), Eastern Orthodox (Michael Dukakis), and Catholic (Ted and Bobby Kennedy, Bruce Babbitt, Pat Buchanan, and—surprise—Alan Keyes, among others).
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well, given the present world situation, to think that most governments of the world are looking out for the well being of the populace is rather naive,in my honest opinion.
Who would want to ban religion? Hell man, the secularists would have it done in a heartbeat. They think that religion is at the root of all of the world's ills.
[edit on 4-12-2006 by SpeakerofTruth]
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[edit on 4-12-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Clearwater, you brought up something that I have beat like a "dead horse." Mammon. Mammon is essentially materialism. Those who worship mammon essentially worship material things.
I view Bush in somewhat that manner,except he uses "Christian" concepts to expunge on it. "Christian" Zionism is actually interrelated because they want certain things to happen to bring about their Messiah.
Originally posted by BlueRaja
I'm not sure what you mean about Christian Zionists. Christians believe that Jesus is the Messiah. I don't know of any mainstream Christians that believe that they can control God's timetable, with regards to the 2nd Coming, etc...
The God of the Old Testament and New Testament are the same. The difference being that Christ hadn't atoned for man's sin yet in the Old Testament(till then Man was under the Law), after the crucifixion(Man was under the state of Grace).