PS 3 or X Box 360???

may I remind you. Blue Dragon= Mistwalkers. Same people making Lost Odyssey. haha.

Also, sony is losing a bundle right now because of the PS3's.

if u need an extra space heater for the winter , get a ps3.

if you like riiiidge raaceer, get a ps3.


grim sony will lose 1.7 BILLION by april because of the ps3. they better hope they can sell oodles of ps3 because they might become the new sega.
[edit on 3-12-2006 by elitegamer23]

[edit on 3-12-2006 by elitegamer23]

I have two questions for wolfofwar

Unless Sony does the same, which currently they arent, theres no held market. They are just a third party console that is more expensive then its competitors

How can you possibly have a third party console? Because (and correct me if i'm wrong) the company that would be making said console is in fact the company that makes the console. It's not like some small company went up to sony and said "hey guys, can we make a console for you, and then put your name on it, and name it after your other consoles?"

Also

Thats true, but like I said, its all but been officially announced. You'll just wait and see.

But its not like it matters, MGS hasnt been a solid game since, well, MGS. Each ones had some severe faults, from over complicated stories (MGS2) to completely pointless stories (MGS3) the last one to truly get it right was MGS1.

If it doesn't matter, then why have you guys been arguing about it for two pages?

@everyone

I don't think that any of this whole argument matters. It's not like the opinion of a handful of people on this thread are going to cause one console to win over the other, people have been arguing about the same things for a year now, nobody is going to change their mind based on an argument.

All of us in here know what we want, and nothing anybody can say or do will change our minds, so why can't we just leave it at that and get on with our lives?

The 360 has a bigger selection of games currently.

The PS3 has more potential power, whether it's utilized or not is up to sony, they have to teach people how to utilize it.

Sony "stole" the idea for motion sensing technology from nintendo, not the actual technology. Like one company has never used another company's idea before, seriously.

If you plan on watching High definition DVDs then you are going to pay the same price no matter which console you get ($200 HD-DVD add on for 360)

Currently both systems have a few games that look about the same, that's really not saying much for microsoft, because there system has been out for a year, and no PS3 developers have not had the same amount of time as 360 developers, because if i'm not mistaken the PS3 final dev kit units weren't received until after the 360 was out for at least a few months.

Yes, Gears of War is a freakin awesome game. Yes microsoft has a good online service, but of course it's going to be good, you have to pay for it. If you want something to be "good" you have to pay for it, if you want it to be free, it probably won't be as good; well at least right from the start it won't, i can't speak for the future.

Oh no, some people that made final fantasy games are working on an Xbox game, wow, maybe they just wanted to make money. What if, just maybe, their career is based on them developing games, so they developed a game, to make more money.

What else is there? I know i've missed something.

Oh yeah, how surprising that a console would have difficulties at launch! Wait a year, and then if the PS3 is still having problems (the same ones, or as many) then you can go on and on about how crappy their service is. That's usually how long it takes for things to really get rolling good, so then we'll have a better idea.

And yes, the PS3 is a lot shinier than the 360, and roughly the same size, even though the PS3 has a convex exterior, and the 360 has a concave exterior. The PS3 doesn't have an external power supply (which is good) and it doesn't have any type of component or HDMI cables in the box (which is understandable, because if you have a 1080P HDMI tv, surely you can easily afford the cables, and they would be expensive and a waste to ship to people that can't use them. but it is still bad

The PS3 controllers are really, really light, and the motion sensing isn't as crappy as some people would claim (i've played on demo systems, which have had their share of problems, and haven't had any problems with the motion sensing. I played both NBA 2k7 and MotorStorm and a good two weeks later i played it again, and still no problems. Yes, some people may have problems, but that doesn't make the entire stock of controllers crappy, i'd like to see any one of us make something on that large of a scale with that technology and not screw up a few times, even if it is a few thousand.) Yes, the 360's controllers fit well in your hands, and they rumble.

The PS3 has a 3-in-1 flash reader (on the premium version, but if you don't get the premium version of either system, that's a waste of money imo), and the 360 doesn't. The 360 has xbox live arcade, and that thing where you can download tv shows. The PS3 has the playstation store or whatever it's called.

I think i got it all, but i could've very well missed something. It's all a matter of opinion, and obviously none of ours are changing, so why do we continue to argue about who's system is better? Better is an opinion that varies from individual to individual, let's leave it at that what's better for you isn't always better for me.

And then, to top it all off, we get on to this fanboy name calling bs. Obviously we are all fans of the system we support, or we wouldn't support it. I see one person call someone a "fanboy" and go do exactly what that "fanboy" did, but for the other system. This is seriously getting out of hand, and we are all getting nowhere with it.

Some like the Wii, some the PS3, and some the 360, but you know what?

They all end with the sound eeee, so we are all the same in that aspect, we all love consoles that end in the eee sound. There, finally something we can all agree on. (even if you love the PC, yet another eee sound.)

the real question should be. ps3 or wii60?


the answer to that question seems easy.

Originally posted by 7Pan7cho7
I have two questions for wolfofwar

How can you possibly have a third party console? Because (and correct me if i'm wrong) the company that would be making said console is in fact the company that makes the console. It's not like some small company went up to sony and said "hey guys, can we make a console for you, and then put your name on it, and name it after your other consoles?"

That ones easy. When I was saying Third party console, I was referencing that it does not have any first party titles. Its a system built entirely for third party games. Meaning Sony does not have any in house studios that are to be a big support for the system and to add to the titles. Where Nintendo is almost entirely a First party (title) system, and Microsoft is a limited First Party System (with Microsoft Game Studios and its some 14 in house subdivisions and companies) the Playstation 3 is entirely supported by out of house developers.

If it doesn't matter, then why have you guys been arguing about it for two pages?

I was only really only fighting that much about it primarily because of the fanatism over that game as the reason the ps3 is leaps and bounds a better product to buy. It started with "Well we have MGS4 so nyah nyah nyah" comments, and it just went from there.

I'll play it if it comes on the 360, but I lost my love for the game. And I was just arguing over those comments, not my desire for it to be on the 360.

I didnt feel like reading everyones bull# so i dont know if anyone else has said this yet...

Xbox and PS3 both support 1080p, xbox just updated it for the HD-drive, Blu-ray sucks because it melts CDs and its like 15 year old technology... at every game stop i've been to, they all say the same...360 is better..i've played ps3 and it was crap.. it seemed slow...and everyone knows playstation on launch makes games at their full potential and use most of its processing power..Fight night: 360 used 50% so the Gaming experience keeps getting better with xbox..PS3 is all HYPE they are both are pretty much the same..360 has a better video card too

Originally posted by MuhammadAlBooBoo
I didnt feel like reading everyones bull# so i dont know if anyone else has said this yet...

Xbox and PS3 both support 1080p, xbox just updated it for the HD-drive, Blu-ray sucks because it melts CDs and its like 15 year old technology... at every game stop i've been to, they all say the same...360 is better..i've played ps3 and it was crap.. it seemed slow...and everyone knows playstation on launch makes games at their full potential and use most of its processing power..Fight night: 360 used 50% so the Gaming experience keeps getting better with xbox..PS3 is all HYPE they are both are pretty much the same..360 has a better video card too

Hahaha, what the heck have you been smoking!? maybe funny grass in that hookah?

Oh man, you guys smoking that good ****, huh?

Kojima was just trying to be nice to all the xbox fanboys. He's already said that he doesn't like porting games because it downgrades the quality of the original and he doesn't want to do that to loyal fans that only have the console which the game might be ported to.

And sure Sony loses money because they are giving you a system for way less than what it costs to make one. You're getting a blu ray player plus the best gaming system out there. However, just like in the past, they will get all they've lost plus much much more when they start selling lots of games. That's why you eventually get price-drops. And all of this is depended upon their exclusives, say MGS for example. It is one of their bext exclusive title, so keep dreaming that it'll come out for 360.

Oh and if you didn't know already, Konami can't say jack **** to Kojima about making games for xbox because now Kojima has all-rights to his mgs title and goes under the name, Kojima Productions. So those rumors you have heard in the past are no longer valid, sorry. lol

*snip*

Its that Norther Cali Fire, That grand daddy purple.....i dont think MGS4 will get on the Xbox nether and isnt PS3 also getting GTA 4 along with Xbox??



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opps...see whats it does


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PC owns all consoles except in price and ease of use! Heh....

The Consoles are pretty eaven, well, atleast I think so. The problem is, the Ps3 costs more, but has a couple more features. Hmmmm..... Hard choice.

On your next shopping trip, get your son to try out the consoles at the shops, and ask him what he likes. Try to keep it unobvious though... lol.

To other people, no consoles have next generation graphics. Sorry, but google G80 crysis video, and then you'll have an understanding of what next gen is. Sorry, but next gen is this: Shader model 4, geometry shaders, and unified shaders, these can have improvements of 6-8 times the performance of current hardware, which is used in Consoles.

Further proof is that the Xbox360 plays Oblivion at a lower resolution than PC's, without 16bit HDR (It uses 4 bit or something), with 4x AA, high texture size, and medium draw distance.

The Geforce 8800GTX got 60fps, 1920x1600, 4x AA and 16AF completely maxing out the game. Owned.

Dan - playing on his PC

To tell you the truth, the console was for my son! I love my PC too! But I don't play games except for the realistic Microsoft Flight Sims on my high end PC with 64 bit DC and the latest nVidia graphics card with the images fired onto the big screen with the video projector. Got my bank balance screwed alright! But what the heck! There's nothing like flying through the Rockies in slightly cloudy but fair weather at sunrise!!

OMG! Mike, I think I've seen you on some Flightsim forums? Simflight? Donno if you've ever seen me, but I'm Cobzz. Heh.....

Hope your son enjoys teh Console

[edit on 4-12-2006 by PisTonZOR]

nintendo is for kiddys always has been always will be.


i dun give a funk if my gf plays games or naught.


i likes to play ultra violent games,

x360 and ps3 seems whers its at.


i love gore.

Originally posted by PisTonZOR

OMG! Mike, I think I've seen you on some Flightsim forums? Simflight? Donno if you've ever seen me, but I'm Cobzz. Heh.....

Hope your son enjoys teh Console

Yeah thanx PisTon. Hope the blighter likes it!!
As for the flightsim, yes. To get some clarifications on the latest MS FlightSim X! Seems you're a fan too! So that makes two of us. Cheers!!

I heard that sony only gave game developers access to half of the cells for development. So the games only look half as good as they could. Im not sure how it works, but it sounded like they were keeping some stuff secret for later releases which will presumably rape your eyes with their extreme graphics.

The devs have full access to all the features of the PS3, the problem is the PS3's Dev kit is crap, and like the PS2, its hard as hell to program well for.

Originally posted by thehumbleone
Wolf of war, who do you think you're kidding?

Remember, the ps3 just came out while developers for the xbox have already had a year to learn how to develop for it.

Give ps3 a year and you will be eating your own words.

Also, for the fight night 3, the ps3 looks WAAYY better. just look at the detail on the arms and the lighting.

I also think those call of duty pics are decieving.

[edit on 3-12-2006 by thehumbleone]

You have been mistaken

www.gamespot.com...

Just hold the mouse over the pics and you will see the PS3 shot. You can tell easily that the lighting and shading on the 360 is better. After seeing that shot, I don't see how anyone can make a logical argument that the 360's lighting is worse on Fight Night Round 3 than the PS3.

We all make mistakes, you just have to look at the right picture.



[edit on 11-12-2006 by wildcat]

Originally posted by thehumbleone
Wolf of war, who do you think you're kidding?

Remember, the ps3 just came out while developers for the xbox have already had a year to learn how to develop for it.

Give ps3 a year and you will be eating your own words.

Also, for the fight night 3, the ps3 looks WAAYY better. just look at the detail on the arms and the lighting.

I also think those call of duty pics are decieving.

[edit on 3-12-2006 by thehumbleone]

You have been mistaken

www.gamespot.com...

Just hold the mouse over the pics and you will see the PS3 shot. You can tell easily that the lighting on the 360 is better. After seeing that shot, I don't see how anyone can make a logical argument that the 360's lighting is worse on Fight Night Round 3 than the PS3.

We all make mistakes, you just have to look at the right picture.



[edit on 11-12-2006 by wildcat]

Yeah, the games look pretty much the same, infact, the 360s lighting looks better. Is it because they had more time? no. Remember, the developers arent making the games at launch, they're working 2-3-4 years earlier. Infact, the PS3 dev kit came out BEFORE the 360's, an extra 6 months before, and the system was delayed an extra 6 months, meaning they had an EXTRA YEAR to refine any games.

As for the one thing most ps3 fanboys like to point out, they have full backwards compatibility. The PS3 can play ps1 and ps2 games, all of them, and the 360 can only play a limited ammount (something like 240 now.)

Well sadly, for some reason, the PS3 does not play them correctly. It strips away the games graphical capabilities, and turns them into this garbage.

www.gamevideos.com...

Last link on the bottom left. Says PS3 vs PS2 games for playing PS2 games.

opps it posted like 7 times or something cause ie took ages to refresh so i pressed button to post gah sorry.




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opps it posted like 7 times or something cause ie took ages to refresh so i pressed button to post gah sorry.

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