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Israel is spying on America, and a news report to prove it, MUST SEE!

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posted on Nov, 11 2002 @ 06:05 AM
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Reading back, I get your point William...

I'm just frustrated cuz I don't think enough people are paying attention to this thread.

Oh well, all I can do is keep plugging away and hope more people get interested.




posted on Nov, 11 2002 @ 07:12 AM
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FD...

But why? I haven't had time to read all the material, but what I've read isn't a huge surprise. I'm sure even Luxemburg is doing it's share of what could be called "spying" on us.... and we likewise on them.

I don't understand the point. Help me.



posted on Nov, 11 2002 @ 07:46 AM
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Hi William,There is evidence to suggest that the Israel had foreKnowledge of the attacks on 9/11.Specific warnings to an Israeli company were received 2 hours before the attack which was before the planes took off(This isn't guess work this is recorded in the media soon after the attacks)but only passed on after the attacks.
I'll tell you what I've been thinking.
Suppose Israeli agents had infiltrated Al qaeda and they had a man in one of the cells.Remember,none of the bombers knew the targets until just before the attacks.I don't think an agent would want to go all the way.Wasn't one group of hijackers arrested afterward someone had bottle out?I've not heard anything about that for a while.Also the numbers on the planes that did attack wasn't one plane a man short?
In the timeline on one of the links above there are numerous mentions of Israeli warnings but nothing specific until it was to late.
Anyway tell me what you think William or anyone else.I don't think the above is anti-semetic.



posted on Nov, 11 2002 @ 07:51 AM
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Watch this...watch this

it requires windows media player.

Or...

Read the transcripts of the four special reports on the first post link half way down the page.

An explaination would involve cutting and pasting this, which I can't be bothered to do.

John Bull has given a brief overview in one of his replies further up.

Read either and you will understand what I am on about.



posted on Nov, 11 2002 @ 11:34 AM
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Constructive comments are few and far between on this post... Is it that bad? What is wrong with it?

I thought I was on to a corker but no one seems to be bothered to comment on this beyond "anti-semitic crap".

I'm very dissapointed, I lay all this information to everyone on a plate and no one even bothers to look...



posted on Dec, 4 2002 @ 06:30 PM
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Seeing as when I last posted this topic, there was a lot of news on weapons inspections, I thought that I would resurrect it at a time when the news well has dried up.

Watch the report and read some posted links and please post what you think beyond anti-semi crap.



posted on Dec, 4 2002 @ 07:16 PM
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I'm sorry if I've ignored this thread for the most part, too, F-D.

The fact that Israel spies on the U.S. is quite old news, and I expect them to do so. Don't think that the U.S. has no spies within the borders of friendly nations as well. Israel has been in a tight spot ever since her conception with very few friends, and there is no reason for her to expect what few she has to remain so.



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 12:09 AM
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www.landfield.com...

the link says that israel had a chip in the government computers and was getting info about secret stuff. I do not see how the government could not detect that some one else had a connection to their computer.

Im not sure if this is right but i think that if they were spying on the computers than an unknow ip address would show up. I dont think the us government really cares that much because, i would think that most of the info israel found out from the spying was info they would have found out about without spying. They may not have gotten it as quickly.

And to the whole blackmaling people to be quiet about this what is up with the stupid people that are being blackmailed. If i was being blackmailed to be quiet i would tell the blackmailer to f*c* off. If i kept quiet they probably would release the incrimination evidence any way. I hate people that give in to blackmale threats.



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 07:19 AM
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In the video, there is a company called comverse-infosys. It has now changed its name to verint.

Previous names include Worldclass Technology and Comverse Technology Ltd. This is based on information from companies-house.gov.uk

In the UK there are four companies that go under the name Amdocs, one is Amdocs Financing Ltd based in the channel islands, and has no registered form of business. The others are based in London and deal with computing and software.

[Edited on 5-12-2002 by Fantastic_Damage]



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 10:06 AM
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TC,Bob,The issue as far as I'm concerned is not Israeli spying(you say this is old news.I suppose it is one year old on this scale anyway).The issue I'm concerned with is the "Smoking Gun"which is foreknowledge of the events of 9/11.
Around 3,000 people died that day.This gives pointers toward the notion that at least one of the USA's allies had enough foreknowledge to prevent it happenning.Now it may not seem it, but infact it is true that, that same ally has been one of the biggest gainers in this new world order.

I think that should be enough for anyone who has a passion for finding out the truth to spend one hour verifying the imformation.

Since this thread first saw the light of day there has been a distinct lack of credible counter-argument.So please read the imformation above,check out the threads provided,and let us know why what F-D and ,to a lesser extent,myself have suggested is ridiculous.

The very fact that your views generally run counter to my own on issues such as this makes them more credible in my eyes.



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 10:16 AM
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I find it highly probable that Mossad or the Shin Bet had foreknowledge of 9/11 and didn't inform the US. This attack has played right into their hands, they are no longer carrying the weight of Arab terrorism on their shoulders.
If the US government knows this to be the case it would be entirely counterproductive for them to release this information and create anger toward Israel in the public.
Simple politics.
The US needs Israel as a buffer in the MIddle East.



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 04:29 PM
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Like I've always said, friendship is an Illusion.
It's all about self interest, egoism and abuse. Today you make friends, tomorrow you're eachothers enemy.
That's how it goes. We will never learn.



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 04:43 PM
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Everyone spies on each other, we spy on half the world, they spy on us that is just the way it is. Even our allies, we spy on them too, we have to know what levels the rest of the world is on concerning technology. This is one of the reasons we have the CIA. We all try to out do each other in technology, specifically the technology concerning warfare and in the end it will get to a point when we reach a war and it will be the end the world. (Only talking about the countries with nukes, ect)



posted on Dec, 5 2002 @ 05:15 PM
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"The very fact that your views generally run counter to my own on issues such as this makes them more credible in my eyes."

John, I'd think that is a very unreliable fact-test, unless you think Bob and I are disinformation specialists for the Company. Is that your position?



posted on Dec, 6 2002 @ 07:11 AM
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No TC,It's because I often look at things from a centre left position.Where as you and Bob look at things from a centre right position.If we both look at this imformation and come to similar conclusions then it can not be said that it is a question of political bias.



posted on Dec, 6 2002 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by Midnight Mutilator
Everyone spies on each other, we spy on half the world, they spy on us that is just the way it is. Even our allies, we spy on them too,


look at the reports again, you'll find out that when you think you're spying on them, they are in fact laughing at you. They have control of 99% of American communication tools. How can you spy on them this way ? They'll always be one step ahead, maybe more.


we have to know what levels the rest of the world is on concerning technology. This is one of the reasons we have the CIA. We all try to out do each other in technology, specifically the technology concerning warfare and in the end it will get to a point when we reach a war and it will be the end the world. (Only talking about the countries with nukes, ect)


Of course, but then again, they control all your communication tools. So they know everything you do. A huge part of your tax money is going to them and there's nothing you can do about it. Say whatever you want to say, but they are more in control than anyone else.



posted on Dec, 6 2002 @ 12:40 PM
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Yes, Israel spies on us, they spy on everyone else too, we spy on Israel, we spy on everyone else too, i have no doubt we have people walking around London spying on the British right now, even though they are our strongest allies...


I have no doubt that Mossad knew something was going to happen on 9/11, i dont think they knew the scale it was going to happen, or any details, i think the US intelligence community knew something as well, but they didn't want to go to whoever and say "something is going to happen somewhere, and we're not sure, but we THINK on 9/11" it would look kinda stupid dont you think? (actually i think it did look stupid when they kept doin that to us after 9/11)



posted on Dec, 6 2002 @ 04:51 PM
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TigeriS, do you have any hard evidence that Israel controls the US communication system? The last time I checked, the US was the most powerful and most technological advanced country in the world. Our government probably has even more advanced technology then we the public knows about. The spying game will continue for years, but we own our own communication systems and agencies, I dont know what you are talking about.



posted on Dec, 6 2002 @ 07:04 PM
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Just something I remember reading:
www.clevescene.com...

This took place not to far from me. I am skeptical because of the area - not much here.



posted on Dec, 6 2002 @ 07:27 PM
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here are a few more links that were posted in some other threads I thought you might wanna see, FD.

abcnews.go.com...

www.americanfreepress.net...



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