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Originally posted by WestPoint23
Call me crazy Waynos but I don't think that many warheads (98), even if everything went according to plan, is enough to completely destroy a nuclear power, and I'm not talking about North Korea.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Call me crazy Waynos but I don't think that many warheads (98), even if everything went according to plan, is enough to completely destroy a nuclear power, and I'm not talking about North Korea.
Also, North Korea has not been attacked for a host of reasons, most of which concern how Soul and South Korea will come out, the rest concern China and the fact that there is little to gain form a geological standpoint. I doubt it's .5kt nuclear weapon which can't even be delivered anywhere is the main reason.
[edit on 4-12-2006 by WestPoint23]
Originally posted by st3ve_o
anyway i think if another cold war situation happens again britain have the capablity to produce more weapons at short notice, japan are classed as a 'near-nuclear state' which means they are not a nuclear power (don't intend to be) but they have the capablity to produce nuclear weapons at short notice.
i'm sure britain could (already a nulcear state).
[edit on 4-12-2006 by st3ve_o]
Originally posted by stumason
Besides, I bet my bottom dollar that the UK has nukes ready to go at a hardened facilty, so a second strike would not be inconceiveable.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Originally posted by stumason
Besides, I bet my bottom dollar that the UK has nukes ready to go at a hardened facilty, so a second strike would not be inconceiveable.
Problem is that no facility can be hardened enough to withstand multiple high yield precise strikes, and where are your subs going to anchor to be refitted with weapons? At ports that no longer exist or at ones with infrastructure that cannot support such an operation?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Stu, I am a bit disturbed, to say the least, at the US scenario, If I gave you that impression I apologize but that's no what I was implying. Depending on who you choose to believe there might be other nations (besides the US) with ABM systems and major strategic defense facilities.
[edit on 4-12-2006 by WestPoint23]
Originally posted by stumason
I bet those nukes that we "dissmantled" can be "remantled" (is that even a word?) at short notice.
Originally posted by fritz
Is it to project our waning power around the world, albeit surreptitiously whilst providing jobs for Americans?
Originally posted by fritz
Waynos is right!
A single one kiloton warhead kills enough people, destroys enough buildings and seriously ruins your day, in the same way a 500 Megaton warhead will, albeit in the latter case it will kill more people and damage more buildings.
We need to ask some serious questions. What is our proposed nuclear arsenal for?
Is it to project our waning power around the world, albeit surreptitiously whilst providing jobs for Americans?
Is it to act as a deterrent and if so, against whome?
Are they intended as a warning to so called Rogue but Nation States? (We have them but they can't have any and if they try to get them, we will invade them [but only if they have oil])
Originally posted by fritz
DW, yet again, you're missing the point!
I am suggesting that unless you WANT to murder millions of people in anger or otherwise, then a surgical strike using a 1Kt warhead does the job just as well or are you advocating committing mass murder?
What don't you understand about that? Can't you get it through your head that nuclear weapons of any type, are a neccessary evil and should they be deployed in anger, you only need enough to get the job done.
You don't use a jackhammer to crack a nut when a nutcracker can do the job just as well!
Originally posted by st3ve_o
lol the dude, are you trying to say Britain only have 1 kiloton nukes?? - i thought you knew your stuff better than this
WW2 nukes were 15 kilotons (that was 60 years ago), i think Britain’s average is 200 kilotons, but the highest we've tested is 1,800 in the 50's.
a 1 kiloton bomb is something that korea tested recently.
en.wikipedia.org...
british nulcear tests:- en.wikipedia.org...
[edit on 7-12-2006 by st3ve_o]