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Originally posted by LoneGunMan
Hey kittycat save this image to your hard drive and then upoad it to photobucket.
Originally posted by interestedalways
LoneGunMan, I had asked you in a u2u about sizing an avatar since this is the first one I made work by myself. You referenced my nickname in photobucket on this thread. How embarrasing.
Pure Energy, sorry for the derail of your thread.
Originally posted by Tamahu
How long?
We should never do it.
It is the original sin.
Originally posted by Tamahu
I'm not going to sit here and try to convince anyone who doesn't want to learn.
We are free to believe as we choose.
If you're actually interested in where I'm coming from on all this, you could read the my posts in the following thread:
Originally posted by Tamahu
If your intention is to debate, then please offer some Philosophically-sound counter-points, instead giving me the ol' "Spirituality is a believe-whatever-you-want kind of thing and it's all good".
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
To debate theory is not sound advice, for my experience is just that MY experience.
If you want someone elses opinion than you should get that from the library.
The Hindu religion is rich with this philosophy, just read up on the God Shiva.
Or the art of the sexual tantra, or the Kama sutra. Or my favorite practice of Western Sex Magick.
I am not sure whom you think you are talking to stating: Spirituality is a believe-whatever-you-want kind of thing and it's all good" dont get arogent with me, your EGO is showing.
Love is the law, love is the bond.
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
Sexual climax and sex is our ritual of non-faith.... we do not have faith we will live forever, so we make children.
Originally posted by Tamahu
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
Sexual climax and sex is our ritual of non-faith.... we do not have faith we will live forever, so we make children.
Why is Sex itself of non-Faith???
If anything, Sex(without fornication) between Husband and Wife, will help us to increase Conscious Solar Faith.
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
Sexual climax and sex is our ritual of non-faith.... we do not have faith we will live forever, so we make children.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
Now lets take this idea of reproduction into this. If we did NOT reproduce we would not have vehicles for the soul to go to school now would we. This is why the sexual practice is important. It is about raising the energy and the intent, it is about feeling anough passion and feeling that your intent goes off like an Atom bomb.
It is done within circle while have a certain mutual goal in mind. The east does NOT have everything right and we are all learning.
Rethink these things my friends, and look to the Tarot as part of your learning, there is much more than mere divination. It is the book of spiritual knowledge that lies within and will help you unlock it.
From KJV Mark 4:1-41:
- And He began again to teach by the seaside. And there was a great crowd gathered to Him, so that He entered into a boat and sat in the sea. And the whole crowd was on the land by the seaside.
- And He taught them many things by a parable. And He said to them in His teaching:
- ‘Listen! Behold, a sower went out to sow.
- ‘And as he sowed, it happened that indeed some fell by the wayside, and the fowls of the air came and ate it up.
- ‘And another fell on stony ground, where it did not have much earth. And it sprang up at once, due to not having deepness of earth.
- ‘And when sun rose, it was scorched. And because it had no root, it withered away.
- ‘And another fell among the thorns, and the thorns grew up and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
- ‘And another fell on good ground and yielded fruit, going up and increasing. And one bore thirty, and one sixty, and one a hundredfold.’
- And He said to them, ‘He who has ears to hear, let him hear.’
- And when He was alone, they who were about Him, with the Twelve, asked Him concerning the parable.
- And He said to them, ‘To you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God. But to those outside, all things are in parables
- so that seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and sins should be forgiven them.’
- And He said to them, ‘Do you not know this parable? And how then will you know all parables?
- ‘The sower sows the Word.
- ‘And these are those by the wayside, where the Word is sown. And when they hear, Satan comes immediately and takes away the Word that was sown in their hearts.
- ‘And these are those likewise being sown on stony places; who, when they hear the Word, immediately receive it with gladness.
- ‘But they have no root in themselves, but are temporary. Afterward when affliction or persecution arises for the Word's sake, they are immediately offended.
- ‘And these are those being sown among thorns; such as hear the Word,
- ‘And the cares of this world, and the deceit of riches, and the lust about other things entering in, choke the Word, and it becomes unfruitful.
- ‘And these are those sown on good ground, who hear and welcome the Word, and bear fruit, one thirty, one sixty, and one a hundredfold.’
- And He said to them, ‘Does a lamp come to be put under a grain-measure, or under a bed? and not to be set on a lamp-stand?
- ‘For there is nothing hidden which shall not be revealed; nor did anything become covered, except so that it might come to light.
- ‘If any man has ears to hear, let him hear.’
- And He said to them, ‘Heed what you hear. With that measure which you measure, it shall be measured to you. And to you who hear, more shall be given.
- ‘For he who has, some shall be given to him; and he who has not, from him shall be taken even that which he has.’
- And He said, ‘So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
- ‘and then should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up; he knows not how.
- ‘For the earth brings out fruit of itself, first the blade, then the ear, after that the full grain in the ear.
- ‘But when the fruit has been brought out, immediately he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come.’
- And He said, ‘To what shall we compare the kingdom of God? Or by what parable shall we compare it?
- ‘Like a grain of mustard seed: which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that are in the earth.
- ‘But when it has been sown, it grows up and becomes greater than all herbs, and shoots out great branches, so as to enable the birds of the air to roost under its shade.’
- And with many such parables He spoke the Word to them, as they were able to hear.
- But he did not speak to them without a parable. And when alone, He explained all things to His disciples.
- And since evening had come, He said to them on that day, ‘Let us pass over to the other side.’
- And when they had sent away the crowd, they took Him with them as He was in the boat. And there were also other little boats with Him.
- And there arose a windstorm, and the waves beat into the boat, so that it was now full.
- And He was in the stern of the boat, asleep on a headrest. And they awakened Him and said to Him, ‘Master, do you not care that we perish?’
- And He awakened and rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, ‘Peace! Be still! And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.’
- And He said to them, ‘Why are you so fearful? How is it that you have no faith?’
- And they feared exceedingly and said to one another, ‘What kind of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?’
Originally posted by interestedalways
Sounds like the ground work for the flying serpent, what is the name? Quetzequatal?
Quetzecotal
Originally posted by queenannie38
AKA
the Phoenix
the cockatrice
Seraphim
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
I was implying western sexual acts.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
A Crowley, sorry but real Witches have been doing this way before Crowley. It is something we Irish have handed down throught he generations. It is done within circle while have a certain mutual goal in mind. The east does NOT have everything right and we are all learning.
Rethink these things my friends, and look to the Tarot as part of your learning, there is much more than mere divination. It is the book of spiritual knowledge that lies within and will help you unlock it.
The Tree of Life is the spinal medulla.
This Tree of Wisdom is also the ten Sephiroth, the twenty-two creative Major Arcana, letters, sounds and numbers, with which the Logos (God) created the Universe.
- Samael Aun Weor, The Aquarian Message
Originally posted by Tamahu
Originally posted by interestedalways
Sounds like the ground work for the flying serpent, what is the name? Quetzequatal?
Quetzecotal
Originally posted by queenannie38
AKA
the Phoenix
the cockatrice
Seraphim
True indeed.
I don't know much about the Cockatrice, but it looks similar to both the Seraphim and the Abraxas of the Gnostics.
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
I was implying western sexual acts.
Well Arnold Krumm-Heller(an original member of the O.T.O.) was probably the first Westerner to reveal the Arcanum A.Z.F., and he didn't really like Eastern teachings such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Theosophy, etc.
Samael Aun Weor's teachings about Sexual Tantra are a synthesis of Western Alchemy and Eastern Tantra.
Speaking of which...
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
A Crowley, sorry but real Witches have been doing this way before Crowley. It is something we Irish have handed down throught he generations. It is done within circle while have a certain mutual goal in mind. The east does NOT have everything right and we are all learning.
That is why I said that most modern degenerated "Western Sex Magick" systems are based on A. Crowley's sytem.
Either way, witchcraft has nothing to do with the Grand Arcanum A.Z.F.
And as I've pointed out(in agreement with what has already been posted by queenannie and yourself in regard to this) with what I've posted about Arnold Krumm-Heller and Samael Aun Weor, it actually is not about East and West.
The White Sexual Alchemy of the West, and the Karma-Mudra of the East, both produce the same results.
Rethink these things my friends, and look to the Tarot as part of your learning, there is much more than mere divination. It is the book of spiritual knowledge that lies within and will help you unlock it.
The Tree of Life is the spinal medulla.
This Tree of Wisdom is also the ten Sephiroth, the twenty-two creative Major Arcana, letters, sounds and numbers, with which the Logos (God) created the Universe.
- Samael Aun Weor, The Aquarian Message
[edit on 27-12-2006 by Tamahu]
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
So you think it is healthier for a man to hold back from something NATURAL and block up his entire system?
That is not NATURAL or healthy.
I am a lisenced emergency medical technician and I will tel you its not good for you to have "blue balls" it is a detriment to your physical self. You are blocking energy. If the physical is not healthy the spirit and soul will not flourish.
Now if you have turned the side of yourself off that is your sexual nature then you have done nothing more than turn off a natural function of the human experience and that is what our souls are here for. This is school baby!
Why would you turn off somehting that our souls came here to experience?
Some ancient beliefs are just that, ancient and ignorant.
They are a product of guilt and control.
Originally posted by LoneGunMan
So you think it is healthier for a man to hold back from something NATURAL and block up his entire system?
Originally posted by PuRe EnErGy
Originally posted by 7Ayreon
.. The serpant eats the dove ..
7A
meaning symbolically that it has reached the same plateau as the dove. It has peaked, it has learned to fly like the birds.