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posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by insite
You still don't need a gun for checking game populations. On my island in south carolina deer outnumber people 9 to 1. People fed the whitetales and we had some pretty nice 6 and 8 point bucks. That is until those same tourists who fed them, were given feed laced with poison. Let me just tell you that it worked like a charm. all of a sudden the roadkill you saw on the side of the road wasnt technically roadkill, it was just dead deer laying by the side of the road.

What about bows? guns clearly tip the game in your favor, if hunting is to be considered a sport, it needs to be a bit more sporting. You can kill a deer no problem with a gun but arrows dont fly as far and they do less damage the farther you are away. Asking to use guns for hunting is pretty cheap if you think about it. Its completely unfair and the only fun I got out of it as a little kid with my bb gun was the thrill of the kill. Imagine the thrill of the kill if you actually put some work into it.


Dead deer on the side of the road that were poisioned, I guess that area isint very animal friendly. Using poision can have a ripple effect and harm the deers natural predators, further screwing with the balance of nature. Also, while a bow is more challenging, it leads to wounded/maimed animals, which dont always die. How is that doing any good? Its better to be cheap and use a gun than to maim and leave a deer suffering somewhere.




posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:41 PM
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Thats just it though, the deer had no natural predators. If the populations of the natural predators was there why would you need to hunt them? The only problem I see in terms of the environment is with the deers excretions getting into the water supply somehow. But the deer didnt usually live long enough to make excretions and there are many golf courses around that cause eutrification of the water supply anyway.



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:42 PM
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You still don't need a gun for checking game populations. On my island in south carolina deer outnumber people 9 to 1. People fed the whitetales and we had some pretty nice 6 and 8 point bucks. That is until those same tourists who fed them, were given feed laced with poison. Let me just tell you that it worked like a charm. all of a sudden the roadkill you saw on the side of the road wasnt technically roadkill, it was just dead deer laying by the side of the road.

that sounds terrible....whats happens when all that poison gets back in the eco system by decaying or by other animals eating them...sounds horrible

Asking to use guns for hunting is pretty cheap if you think about it. Its completely unfair and the only fun I got out of it as a little kid with my bb gun was the thrill of the kill. Imagine the thrill of the kill if you actually put some work into it.

have you ever been hunting before??? you think its that easy to kill a deer with a rifle..your sadly mistaken. besides....why do you think its illegal for anybody but handi-cap people to use crossbows...because its harder to kill with a cross-bow? nope they are exremly deadly..

[Edited on 11-17-2003 by sirCyco]



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:47 PM
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Its easy to kill a deer with a rifle if youre in a treestand 20 feet above its head. And by bows why do you automatically think i mean crossbow? because its just as deadly as a gun and you wanted to trip me up? A compound bow is definately harder to use. Range on bows is a lot more limited than with a gun. I'm sure you know this so stop playing games.



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:47 PM
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If everyone has a gun then few of them will be stolen.

See we can do this one way or the other,

either no guns or everyone has a gun.

If no-one but the government has a gun then we are at the mercy of the government, something which is supposed to serve our interests in the first place.

If everyone has guns then everyone has access to protection of themself and also the ability to fight back regardless of size etc.

I think it is a better idea for socialists to get rid of killing instincts in society. A good way is to prescribe lots of lithium for everyone. Continue the programming presently going on in the schools and media. Then lie to everyone about why the system is doing this so that the dumb public will buy it. Then once accomplished lock up all the dissidents without a wimper and let the aliens take over.

Good job cause the left serves the elite global controllers as much as anyone else.

THEY JUST DO IT IN THEIR OWN SPECIAL WAY!



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by insite
Its easy to kill a deer with a rifle if youre in a treestand 20 feet above its head.


20 feet away??? again i guess you know nothing about hunting...deer are not that stupid..unless it was extremly windy and the wind never changed directions



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 08:59 PM
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I know what I see on the outdorr channels like The Nashville Network and so forth. Sometimes deer walk right underneath the treestands. It's not impossible, maybe it's because you suck at hunting.

NEO,
If you give everyone a gun, even the kids, and couple that with the culture we grow up in over here in America where we actually have a problem with guns, its an equation for disaster.



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by insite
I know what I see on the outdorr channels like The Nashville Network and so forth. Sometimes deer walk right underneath the treestands. It's not impossible, maybe it's because you suck at hunting.

thats tv there guy.....who wants to watch somebody wander through the woods tracking a deer for three days...you obviosly know nothing about the subject if your getting your info from the nashville channel lol....oh and yeah its easy to get a deer with in 20 feet if you cheat...see they put piles of apples in the same place year round and once huntings season is here...bam ...the dear are already trained to where the food is... but real hunters dont use this approach

[Edited on 11-17-2003 by sirCyco]



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:10 PM
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thats why you know about it...



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by insite
thats why you know about it...


lol..dude i live in the city...how the hell am i gonna keep a pile of apples going year round in the middle of the woods?? now your just being dumb



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:14 PM
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oh yeah heres a reason...ITS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT PROTECTED BY THE CONSTITUTION....



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:17 PM
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insite, you're rapidly sounding stupider in trying to prove a point that is
A.False
B.Not the point

I love to hunt. But hunting is not why so many people are up in arms about guns.


Guns are deadly, guns are made to kill. Thats the point. What we need to do is make a stiffer restriction on felons caught carrying a gun. Illegal search and seizure will get a felon carrying an illegal firearm off the hook nine times out of ten. Weapons trafficking is second only to drug trafficking as the biggest illegal shipment operation in the United states. We need tougher restrictions on the problem, repeat offenders. Banning guns won't stop these felons from getting their hands on guns again



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:18 PM
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Constitution, Constismution - Florida Suspends Constitution Thread

Hey! How was I to know you lived in the city, still doesnt explain how you know about the apple trick...

*EDIT: Dreamstone, I'm done trying to explain my point of view. It's extreme to say the least. And I have one rebuttle, sometimes a felon isnt a felon until he kills someone with a gun.

[Edited on 17-11-2003 by insite]



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:20 PM
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insite,

you do not understand my logic.

people either have power over themselves or we give it to the state.

or we moderate what they can do which is what is supposidly going on (with our permission of course).

unfortunately the global controllers have usurped that power and they by virtue of controlling institutions will take it from the average person.

your arguing for the removal of all firearms firmly puts you in cahoots with them, whether desired or not by you.



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:23 PM
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yeah i know about the apple thing.....its common knowledge...its not a some secret passed down through the generations of cheating hunters geez


what was your point on posting the florida-constitution thread????

[Edited on 11-17-2003 by sirCyco]



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:24 PM
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*EDIT: Dreamstone, I'm done trying to explain my point of view. It's extreme to say the least. And I have one rebuttle, sometimes a felon isnt a felon until he kills someone with a gun.

[Edited on 17-11-2003 by insite]


Sweet, I bet all of the rapists, child molestors, and smack dealers out there willbe pumped to hear about that piece of insight.

As for the Florida Constitution Issue...People were up in arms about the right to a speedy trial being suspended temporarily. I right that isn't even seen effectively today. Meanwhile, ther are 85 million gun owners out there who have a definite say on their 2nd amendment



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:35 PM
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You people grip tightly onto your guns until the "New World Order" becomes visible and the fiends want to capture you all up and take all your possessions. NEO claims I'm oblivious to reality, all I know is living in a paranoid state for fear of total government domination is a bit much to be using as a reson to hold onto your guns.

Dreamstone,
This is why I included the word "sometimes" before i wrote the rest of what I did. Read what you want to read and disregard the rest, go on.

*EDIT: I do understand your logic, I see what everyone is trying to say and I see why they have their reasons for saying it. This does not mean I'm going to cave in and say, "Oh geez guys, you know what? I guess you are right. Can I join your side?" We have opposing views on this issue and if you expect me to "see the light" it aint going to happen.

[Edited on 17-11-2003 by insite]



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:41 PM
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I saw that sometimes, and I know you're not going to change sides at the drop of a hat.

I hate(love) to say it, but don't take the loudmouth liberal route and issue a blanket statement with little real meaning. It just degrades you



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:42 PM
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You people grip tightly onto your guns until the "New World Order" becomes visible and the fiends want to capture you all up and take all your possessions.

uh thats not why i have guns, its because it my second amendment right and because i like them period....my guns are locked up..so really....even if somebody broke in my house i probably would have to grab my bat unless i had time to put in the combination and load up a magizine and the cocked the slide...so in others words i dont have guns because im pariniod..its my right and i like them.



[Edited on 11-17-2003 by sirCyco]



posted on Nov, 17 2003 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by insite
You people grip tightly onto your guns until the "New World Order" becomes visible and the fiends want to capture you all up and take all your possessions. NEO claims I'm oblivious to reality, all I know is living in a paranoid state for fear of total government domination is a bit much to be using as a reson to hold onto your guns.

Dreamstone,
This is why I included the word "sometimes" before i wrote the rest of what I did. Read what you want to read and disregard the rest, go on.

*EDIT: I do understand your logic, I see what everyone is trying to say and I see why they have their reasons for saying it. This does not mean I'm going to cave in and say, "Oh geez guys, you know what? I guess you are right. Can I join your side?" We have opposing views on this issue and if you expect me to "see the light" it aint going to happen.

[Edited on 17-11-2003 by insite]


Thanks for admitting what this whole discussion is really about. Buying time in the end. By taking people's guns the final roundup will go a lot faster and that will help to jeapordize the souls of millions.





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