Mosnews Reports UFO Crash.

Found this, and just thought I'd stew the pot a little.

www.geocities.com...

The mirror-smooth surface of the jewel of Eastern Siberia, the Baikal Lake reminds one of a huge bowl of a radiotelescope....On June 30, 1908, the inhabitants of Kamensk, a small settlement situated only 4km to the east from the lake, observed a fiery column that shot through in the north-east direction, and a powerful trembling of the soil and great waves that appeared on the Yenisei River testify to a possibility of some fragments of the disintegrating meteoritic body [that hit Tunguska], falling in the neighbourhood.

Also, looking up this region in Google Earth will show a number of significant fires in the area.

[edit on 1-12-2006 by alexg]

Originally posted by Thain Esh Kelch
Could be just a meteor... Noone actually *saw* a ufo.

This is true, but hardly constitutes a "false alarm"

Originally posted by spines
Anyone else besides me think that it could possibly be the original story which was not correct. Early reports of 'extraordinary' events are known to be incorrect.

I am not saying this is the case but it is nice to keep it in mind before we all get worked up.

Uh but the story said the police made the claim? Now I'm not always the biggest fans of cops but why would they lie about an aircraft crash?

Seems legit to me or else they drink vodka for breakfast over there?

Originally posted by saint4God
I think Russia is still using Old-World thinking in the technology age. This can be evidenced through the most recent ex-spy poisoning. Sixty years ago, no one would've been any of the wiser. ....


[edit on 1-12-2006 by saint4God]

[OT-rant]
You know what, I dont think they even care!
I mean, no one can do anything about it anyway, the power elite will still be in power, sure the faces might change from time to time.
We will still be at their mercy. At least until we rise up, united against them, and I dont see it happening anytime soon...
[/OT-rant]

Either this case here is in important cover-up, or its just another step in the staged invasion scenario. I think the latter, it will happen, I believe.

Originally posted by saint4God
So...you're saying local residents did not call the news? That the news did not report it? And that there was no fire? That Russia has a habit of sending out a helicopter with 'specialists' whenever a local says something happened? Oh, and radioactive Polonium is normally found in sushi

[edit on 1-12-2006 by saint4God]

I am saying that news agencies have been known to jump the gun in the past and that an unsetteling amount of people like to get 'excited' with very little information.

I'm going to email Stan Friedman right now about this just to see if what his opinion is and to see if he has any more information.

Well the wittnesses stories are starting to appear.

Mysterious flying object falls in Siberia

The zone's residents have told they saw the crash with a loud noise and shortly after high flames came out from the mysterious object.
Currently the researches are led by the security officers; initially many said it could have been an MI-8 helicopter which was flying over the area but the Russian Air Force has not confirmed the presence of that kind of aircraft in that zone. (Avionews)

Source

Unidentified Flying Object Crashes, Burns In Siberian Taiga

Russian officials said an unidentified flying object fell out of the sky and burned on impact Friday in the taiga of East Siberia, the news agency Interfax reported.
Law enforcement authorities in the Krasnoyarsk region told Interfax residents had reported seeing a "flying apparatus" plunge from the sky at about 10 a.m.
Residents of the remote area, some 260 kilometres north of the regional capital of Krasnoyarsk, said the surrounding area had been charred, showing signs of a fire.
Authorities, however, said they had been unable to reach the scene due to inclement weather conditions.
"Investigators and transport officials are now being sent from Krasnoyarsk to establish the reasons behind the crash," a police official said.
Regional authorities have not speculated about what the object might have been, but they noted a helicopter had flown over the scene and that its crew had not seen any traces of fire.

The vast Siberian taiga, an area of boundless forest, famously played host to an explosion known as the "Tunguska event" in June 1908 after an object, now thought to be an asteroid or comet, slammed into a remote area north of Lake Baikal.
The blast, which felled an estimated 60 million trees over 2,000 square kilometers, was later calculated to have been the equivalent of 10 to 20 megatons of TNT, similar in force to that of the most powerful nuclear bomb ever detonated.

Source

[edit on 1-12-2006 by squiz]

There are plenty of reasons why the Russian government would sweep an event like this under the rug that have absolutely nothing to do with aliens.
Maybe a satellite fell out of orbit and landed in the area.
Maybe a Russian military plane or test aircraft crashed.
Either of those are completely logical reasons for why locals would report seeing something crash to earth and why the Russian government would clamp a lid on news of the impact.
Not everything has got to be about little green men.

I wonder if there is anywhere on the net which could get live satelite images.

you never know, could have been something american.

I suggest if you see any stories on this out of Russia that you cache or copy the story. It may be pulled since Russia's freedom of the press isn't a strong point.

It may have even been a classified weapons test, gone wrong, or even right! Whatever it was, noone will know now. Are you around Russian Soldier? Do you or anyone you know live in this area?

More media spin, Same info again, this time it's -

To Divert Attention From Polonium UFO Reportedly Crashed in Russia.

Not even a UFO crash is going to make that go away.

Sounds like "The Installation".

Nexus Magazine - "The Installation


They should have a catchy phrase like - "The Installation - blowing the crap out of things since 1908"

This garbage story really sounds close to IDENTICAL to the KZN (South Africa) ufo crash sighting earlier this year.

KZN Thread

Forget ever hearing any further information, but definitely compare the two and you'll see it's an amazing attention grabber...

russia has a lot of attention to sway from all the politics. but to stick with the issue at hand its sad they media would try and dupe the audience here in america, on a friday night, to believe something of significant actually has happened in a country, in siberia no less, where access to any real information doesn't exist. if the russians can dominate NHL hockey, they certainly can pull this off and have it work in someone's favour.

just a thought or two.

[edit on 2-12-2006 by chetinglendalevillage]

Greetins Members,

Interesting story ,
More interesting is the fact that it happend in Siberia, Remember most of siberia is pretty remote and it has many millitary installations in that area aswell,
As im sure most of you know , Russia has taken part in many wars and weilds a very strong and powerfull axe , anyway during the cold war were russia and germany allies??
if they were then they would have most certainly shared infomation and rescourses and if they werent im sure that they would have employed some sort of spy and surveliance operation towards each other, ANYWAY if either of these are true then it is very possible
that russian secret service and or millitary could have come into possesion or knowledge of germanies famous flying disks commonly noted as Vrill or foofighter aircraft,
As im sure some of you know after the war the nazi scientist were employed by nasa and it is rumoured that nasa in conjunction with the US millitary have used and are using still, these scientists knowledge to mimic these vrill aircraft , Area 51 is in possesion of about nine extraterrestrial craft and are trying to reverse engineer these craft because of there phenominal flight specs according to Bob Lazaar , Now if this is happening here then it is by no means non credible that the same thing is happening in russia, And what better part to have a secret installation like area 51 then the cold and in most parts unaccesable place called Siberia ,
I am by no means stating this as pure fact im just thinking here , but really if the US could do it then so could the Russians , As mentioned earlier , in russia freedom of the press is next to non existent and it is known that the Russian millitary as well as defence and law establishments are very tough , i mean the police carry Aks around on the street for christ sake ,

Now what i will find interesting is if they dont find anything , what i will also find interesting is if they do find something and labell it to the press as a weather balloon or a satelite ( The Russian Space Agency launches satelites that regularely pass over Siberia on a calender basis) ,

It is known that something crashed there for sure but if they dont tell us the truth about what it is then what we can only speculate could be true or it could be false ,

If anyone can find anything about the locations of the fire and damage it caused then i think it would help us narrow down things , for example if the fire was in a straight line and there was a sliding track x by x big and the trees were knocked over or something like that then we would know that something definetly crashed there,

As asked earlier are there any satelites that we can get live images from?

Anyway thanks for reading and i would love to hear your thoughts,
Your opinions are allways held in high regard fellow members and i wish you well ,

EDIT=Just wanted to let you know that i know this isnt spelled to crash hot lol but i was typing fast .

Omega



[edit on 2/12/2006 by Omega85]

This was nothing but a downed Satellite, let it all go, it was nothing but a downed Satellite! No UFO in this incident.

Originally posted by Galiega
This was nothing but a downed Satellite, let it all go, it was nothing but a downed Satellite! No UFO in this incident.

If it was a satellite, then where's the news about it. I mean its not THAT hard for officials to state that a satellite crashed and caused a little fire while having pictures of the debris (if there are any), end of story.

It'd even be easy to fake it

[edit on 2-12-2006 by merka]

Originally posted by Galiega
This was nothing but a downed Satellite, let it all go, it was nothing but a downed Satellite! No UFO in this incident.

For you to make such a straight out statement like that im assuming that you must have some proof, so post it...... or are you one of those people who make statements they think are true with no logical backing to make it so??
And thats right, you think that it was a satelite, you dont know , they are two completely different things.

Omega

Originally posted by Omega85
...anyway during the cold war were russia and germany allies??
if they were then they would have most certainly shared infomation and rescourses and if they werent im sure that they would have employed some sort of spy and surveliance operation towards each other, ANYWAY if either of these are true then it is very possible
that russian secret service and or millitary could have come into possesion or knowledge of germanies famous flying disks commonly noted as Vrill or foofighter aircraft, ...

Well, I suppose you know that during the cold war there were 2 germanies, one the Fed Republic, NATO aligned, the other the Democratic Rep, Warsaw Pact aligned. Spying back then was as common as having breakfast, and regarding to Russia catching the flying disks secrets, everybody by war's end got in one form or the other german plane development information, the real trick though was in catching the men behind it...

Originally posted by chetinglendalevillage
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russia has a lot of attention to sway from all the politics. ...

ahhhhh c'mon guys, trying to divert attention from what have become 2 major political problems (the journalist and the spy) with an denied claim for the fall of an unknown object in remote Siberia?...

You guys know very well that it's not possible for that to work, how many newspapers published the spy's story? How many published the unknown object fall in Siberia?

[edit on 2-12-2006 by jmlima]