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reply posted on 18-11-2003 @ 03:44 PM by Bout Time
Originally posted by Seekerof
BT said:
"And Seek, while "Neo-Con" may not be a label for you, being knee deep in anything like Free Republic or NewsMax, coupled with the scrolling marque in your sig file, definetly does not earn you " Seeker of Truth" status, now does it? "

And your sources are ...... what? Its a great defense to use when you really don't have anything to counter with BT.....the ole' attack the sources issue..........
With some of the "sources" I have seen presented by you and many others here since I have been at ATS......please, spare me the "source" argument......
You and many other present your 'cases' and side as the 'Truth' but lord forbid if anyone counters with what they deem is truth....then its attack the individuals crediability, the sources, etc, etc......sure it makes you and others feel better but dude......word up!!!....the Truth is not exclusively owned by you or anyone else......
Seems to me, the "truth" has pretty much been brought forth....or else I wouldn't be individually attacked as I have been done so on this thread/topic.....

Smoke and mirrors.....smoke and mirrors.....
Read'em a weep.....this connection has been knowledge for years and years....since the 1990's, if not earlier........give me a break!

regards
seekerof


You neglected the line above the one you quoted:

"Attack the Sources, not the Message" holds no water here; the sources are rumors and to enter them into debate brings shame upon your House of Research!!

No, you don't get spared the 'source' argument as long as you post non credible sources. I have no interest in this thread outside of debunking for all the newbies, what your offering as gospel - It has been argued before thoroughly and completely in other threads, as well as the suspect sources of political camp sites. It's not my truth versus your truth, nor do I function that way.
But you're lucid & logical on some things....why would you even think of the Weekly Standard or Newsmax as being unbiased?
But please don't list me in the police report as one of your 'attackers' - I simply reminded you of an argument already waged at ATS over the sources you reference as legit. Despite outward appearences, I'm peaceful!

The Net Net:

Does this link which you consider proved......does it warrant Trillion$$ expenditures & tens of thousands of lives? The link, and I guess hyperspace jump to immediate threat, was proved to be a clear & present danger?

Don't buy it now, & I wasn't buying then.


reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 12:17 PM by Seekerof



reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 02:53 PM by Seekerof
Courtesy of the good ole' CIA I would imagine.

"The Iraqi 'Honor Roll of 600'"
Link:
www.talkleft.com...

"THE SADDAM/OSAMA CONNECTION, DOCUMENTED"
Link:
www.instapundit.com...

"Iraqi funds, training fuel Islamic terror group"
Link:
www.csmonitor.com...

"A Reminder: Iraq and al Qaeda -- The Evidence"
Link:
blog.draga.com...

Real insightful links on this guys blog..........


The more I dig...the more that can be brought forth.
The evidence may not be "solid" but its enough to classify a "connection" between Saddam/Iraq and Al-Qaeda.........
Call it lies, call it what you will, but the "links" remain....and cannot be denied.
Denying me makes no difference, deny the information.


regards
seekerof


reply posted on 19-11-2003 @ 03:07 PM by Jakomo
Seeker: "The evidence may not be "solid" but its enough to classify a "connection" between Saddam/Iraq and Al-Qaeda......... "

LOL, well said. The evidence is not solid, but it exists. Therefore, uh, it exists. While it doesn't PROVE a connection, it really really vaguely suggests one, while not PROVING one. Haha.

And please try to READ your links before pasting them, although the last one you posted is frickin hilarious.

www.theage.com.au...

"Here it is, conclusive proof against Iraq"

1. On an audiotape, Osama bin Laden calls Iraq a "stinking cesspit of socialist debauchery". This criticism is much less hostile than the sort of thing he says about America, thus proving al-Qaeda has warm feelings towards Saddam Hussein.

2. Our surveillance has picked up chatter from al-Qaeda operatives talking about organising a "rendezvous". "Rendezvous" is a French word, and France has constantly obstructed American attempts to impose regime change in Iraq. So again, we see a clear connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq.

3. Our spy planes have photographed Saddam's deputy prime minister being driven in a motorcade of Mercedes cars. Mercedes is a German car, and Germany is in league with France to destroy America, like al-Qaeda. Therefore, etc.


4. The number plate on one of these cars was A03A0 1A, which, in the rear mirror of the car in front, spells al-Qaeda.

5. The motorcade was moving in an easterly direction through Baghdad. If you move in an easterly direction through France, you get to Germany.

6. Saddam is another Hitler. Germany had a Hitler. Again, a direct link with al-Qaeda.

7. Al-Qaeda operatives have recently been arrested in London. The Prime Minister of London, Tony Blair, then visited France for a meeting with Jacques Chirac. Chirac then visited Bonn to celebrate 40 years of his alliance with Gerhard Schroeder of Germany. Schroeder had a meeting with Putin of Russia, who then received Hans Blix, who went to Baghdad. Again, proof of a direct link."



LOL

"Our surveillance has picked up chatter from al-Qaeda operatives talking about organising a "rendezvous". "Rendezvous" is a French word, and France has constantly obstructed American attempts to impose regime change in Iraq. So again, we see a clear connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq."

Well that about settles it for me! ROFL!


jakomo


ps. FYI Ansar Al Islam is based out of Northern Iraq, which Saddam hasn't had control over since the No Fly Zones started up in 1991. They're loosely affiliated with Al Qaeda, apparently, but their next biggest ties are to the Kurds (who are enemies of Saddam). Nice try though.

Colin Powell couldn't prove it either, so don't feel bad.




[Edited on 19-11-2003 by Jakomo]


reply posted on 20-11-2003 @ 01:05 PM by Peace
Seekerof, I don't claim to know 'the truth'. Far from it, I don't have a clue what really goes on because I don't believe any of the crap from your bent Government.

What I do believe whole heartedly is that 'President' Bush and his gang of criminals are taking the whole world on a ride to some hell hole of a future. This is probably why you mistake my anger for certainty.

I guess you were referring to my claims that the CIA are in fact carrying out a lot of these so-called al-qaeda attacks (including the bomb blasts in Istanbul today 20/11) as cover to further their own agenda, when you said you did not agree with me, fair dues. Although it is interesting to note that the Mossad were on hand immediately today and last week to help search for clues as to who was responsible. However if you were referring to my claims that Saddam was only taken out for financial purposes, I think you are either lying or not as intelligent as I gave you credit for. The link in my previous post shows the threat of Saddam myth to be false.

We disagree on the core issue of 9/11. Fundamentally disagree. So I can undersatand your rant about the liberal bull$hit and 'the truth'.

In reality though Seekerof, as I have said before, you are wrong about me. I do not claim to know the truth or swallow liberal crap.

There are thousands of reasons I think your Gov were behind 9/11. I'm sure you have read the "Project for a new american century's' report "Rebuilding America's defences". "Catalysing or catastrophic event like a new pearl harbour" is what thgey needed, said the report.
I would love to know, Seekerof, you believe this is coincidence? Please answer this question. Coincidence?
Well I don't believe it was a coincidence. Now try and put yourself in my shoes, you Seekerof, pretend that you believe, like me, that Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld along with help from many others were part of the team that planned and implimented the 9/11 attacks. I think you will find that you are now much closer to my way of thinking, it was that easy.
Seekerof, I was thinking the other day, if the events of 9/11 had occured in London, I might be much closer to your way of thinking. But don't confuse me with others who believe they have all the answers because I don't.
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