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"Take Me To Your Leader"

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posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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That is what they will say, right?

So Then:

Who is Earth's Leader?

Seems to me that we ought to have a leader, before anyone comes down and says:

"Take Me To Your Leader"

I guess what i'm saying is:

It would seem having a leader might be a pre-requisite to them making themselves known and then saying:

Take me to your leader

Still against One World Order?

CATCH 22

Then, if you are against a One World Order, aren't you also against full disclosure?

Or, who would you expect them to take the aliens to?

Where would aliens be taken to when they say:

Take us to your leader?




posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:48 PM
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If this designee is Bush, I can see why they're still keeping it secret! LOL....

Seriously though....I doubt such beings would just show up and not know.
Go from our own point of view....would we?

No, we'd monitor the planet for a small period of time in order to ascertain how to position ourselves. We'd KNOW who the leaders were. More importantly, we'd choose sides (assuming there are sides, for humans there are always sides).

Until we know more of alien agendas and behavior, we'd have to go with what we know, and in doing so, we'd have to assume they are well aware of who Earth's leaders are....



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:52 PM
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Maybe they dont even know the concept of leader...
I wouldnt mind bringing these guys to our leader if its not a politician!
Maybe the dalai lama would do the job...

If they come here with a goal, they wont need to be in contact of a leader, they just gonna do their things with or without our approval (evil or not)

When the first invaders came from europe a couple of hundred years ago, did they ask to meet the local leader? no... they did what they had to do

I think that's the jungle law...and it applies to the whole universe



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Where would aliens be taken to when they say:

Take us to your leader?


My choices... in reverse order

1. Bono

2. Lou Dobbs

3. David Suzuki

I wouldn't trust a politician of any country, nor head honcho of any religion, to act in the best interest of humanity.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by kraggen
Maybe they dont even know the concept of leader...


I'm sure you are probably right about some societies, out there, som where.



I think that's the jungle law...and it applies to the whole universe


applies to the whole universe? Surely none of us speak for the whole universe, unless of course we do, seeing how there may not be any leader.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by masqua

I wouldn't trust a politician of any country, nor head honcho of any religion, to act in the best interest of humanity.


Interesting masqua.

Seems to me that the "Head Honcho" of any religion would be "God", right?

so you don't trust "God" to act in the best interest of humanity, either?

Ok, i concede, i know what you meant was the "earthly head honcho", not "The Head Honcho", but i just wanted to point that out.

Why?

Would people even recognize or acknowledge any "God" as our ethical, moral, and philisophical compass or "mindset"?

rhetorical question, i hope.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:05 PM
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There is always a tendance of thinking that our little planet is so different than the rest of our reality!

Thats for sure that were are talking about none provable theories but im tempted to think that most of the time we are complicating things

thats the human nature...



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:08 PM
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so you don't trust "God" to act in the best interest of humanity, either?


We are talking about a fellow who often had a tendency to wipe out humans wholesale save for one family (i.e. the flood, Soddam & Gamorrah, etc.), slay innocent children (first borns of Egypt), etc. etc.


So nope, not the best spokesman!



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok


so you don't trust "God" to act in the best interest of humanity, either?


We are talking about a fellow who often had a tendency to wipe out humans wholesale save for one family (i.e. the flood, Soddam & Gamorrah, etc.), slay innocent children (first borns of Egypt), etc. etc.


So nope, not the best spokesman!



You are right. But, i was thinking in a mindset that God had dominion over death (and the dead), so what is it they really lost?

"nothing".

so what is it they really lost?
nothing. In fact, they gained the experience of knowing death. and by so doing (dying), perhaps they also gained the experience of "nothing". Which is appropriate, given they also had to lose "nothing" to know death.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:27 PM
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Hm, well if they did come down and say that, I'm willing to be
the representative leader of the human race, I'm quyite qualified,
and would get along grandly with Greys.



That is a good question though, I've never thought they'd do
something like that, I always figure it'll just be a bunch of
spaceships appearing over the worlds major cities, and broad-
casting a message and sending smaller landing craft.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:35 PM
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The thing is that maybe what we are talking about already happened!

If it happened they contacted whom?

If we are following the path of the proofs we have(i dont know if we can call that proofs) It looks like they contacted the wrong persons (like american leaders for example!) for us, but they contacted the right ones at their advantage!!! So they are not so different from us!

So maybe the word ''leader'' could be define as the one lying and deceiving...



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by kraggen

So maybe the word ''leader'' could be define as the one lying and deceiving...


interesting thought.

let's look at the word:

l e a d e r

hmmm. i hear absolutely no "a" sound whatsoever in the word. i say it is lying and decieving. so i'm taking it out.

leder

now, i'm going to take the leder to a mirror and have them look into it:

l e d e r [mirror] r e b e l

hmmm.

maybe leaders are rebels then?

rebel what, i wonder?



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
let's look at the word:

l e a d e r

hmmm. i hear absolutely no "a" sound whatsoever in the word. i say it is lying and decieving. so i'm taking it out.

leder

now, i'm going to take the leder to a mirror and have them look into it:

l e d e r [mirror] r e b e l

hmmm.

maybe leaders are rebels then?

rebel what, i wonder?



You know, I have to say, you overanalyze thing to
such an extrem that they become philosophical.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
That is what they will say, right?


will they say anything at all?



Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
So Then:

Who is Earth's Leader?

Seems to me that we ought to have a leader, before anyone comes down and says:

"Take Me To Your Leader"

I guess what i'm saying is:

It would seem having a leader might be a pre-requisite to them making themselves known and then saying:

Take me to your leader


Aliens may not ask that or anything at all, I can imagine they might say "I am your New World leader."

PLUS what particular purpose could any human rank to an intelligent alien race that may have traveled from another dimension? Other worldly dimensional beings wouldn't care if you owned 3 world banks or won the Nobel Peace Prize.




Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Still against One World Order?


Yes, just call me old fashion lol....



Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Then, if you are against a One World Order, aren't you also against full disclosure?


I really can't see much relation to NWO and aliens, unless aliens have a One Universe Order....


Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher
Or, who would you expect them to take the aliens to?

Where would aliens be taken to when they say:

Take us to your leader?


It really may be the opposite, I think they call it alien abductions



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

l e a d e r

hmmm. i hear absolutely no "a" sound whatsoever in the word. i say it is lying and decieving. so i'm taking it out.

leder

now, i'm going to take the leder to a mirror and have them look into it:

l e d e r [mirror] r e b e l



True leaders are rebels but rebels live a short life and that is why most leaders are fake, they want to live a long and prosperous life.

Witness JFK etc.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei

You know, I have to say, you overanalyze thing to
such an extrem that they become philosophical.


I know i'm doing it again, but you might like this?

A new Reality tv show entitled: "Extreme Philosophy", hosted by ATS moderators and members. Perhaps we could pitch that idea to the ESPN team at Disney?
(yes, Disney does own ESPN)



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by XPhiles

I really can't see much relation to NWO and aliens, unless aliens have a One Universe Order....


Good points (your entire post).

This is the only one i'm going to take a stab at, though. (sorry).

If we don't have a "One World Order" to whom any delegation can speak to, then won't they have to talk to everyone individually (in order to be fair)?



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by denythestatusquo

True leaders are rebels but rebels live a short life and that is why most leaders are fake, they want to live a long and prosperous life.

Witness JFK etc.


Ah, yes. the JFK assasination.

i guess it was one shooter. i was taught he was a Sarg from the marines.

a Lone Sarg, right?

i like mirrors:

L O N E S A R G [mirror] G R A S E N O L

GRASENOL?

grase nol?

grassy knoll.

lone sarg or grassy knoll?

off topic, but just a thought....



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Originally posted by iori_komei

You know, I have to say, you overanalyze thing to
such an extrem that they become philosophical.


I know i'm doing it again, but you might like this?

A new Reality tv show entitled: "Extreme Philosophy", hosted by ATS moderators and members. Perhaps we could pitch that idea to the ESPN team at Disney?
(yes, Disney does own ESPN)


It's actually a sideways compliment really, I'm not good at just
blurting that kind of thing out.

That would be an interesting concept for a show, except I fear
we may end up making many people go insane, simply because
it would be to much for them, that or we would inspire a new
golden era in philosophy and spirituality.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by iori_komei

That would be an interesting concept for a show, except I fear
we may end up making many people go insane


but, insane means to "reside within one's own mind", right?

so, if anyone were to call anyone else "insane", wouldn't the person doing the name calling have to also be within the other person's mind to observe that they are residing in there mind?

and if someone is in someone elses mind to observe them there, then aren't they "Out Of Their Mind"?

so: Who calls who insane? Who ever calls someone else "insane", if they are right about it, it is only because they were "Out Of Their Minds", right?



, simply because
it would be to much for them, that or we would inspire a new
golden era in philosophy and spirituality.


Take "fear" out of the equasion, and there may not be any problems whatsoever.



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