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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

jinsanity
How come whenever people try, and successfully point out this issue the Masons are always silent on it?

Why should it involve the masons? The Bohemian Grove isn't a masonic organization, and non-masons are in it. Assuredly, some members are also masons.

Quite.

Freemasons haveposted on this topic before, but as it has nothing to do with freemasonry you wouldn't expect much response. I'm pretty much with an3rkist on this one, and if they're not striking deals at BC then they'll do it somewhere else anyway.




posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:58 PM
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You could argue about this till your blue in the face. Not going to do it. I get the feeling that all you want to do is try to start a fight. Sorry not going there. If you want to start a fight go ahead someone will pick up on it. I like this board and have no desire to get kick off anytime soon. I did read the link you provided and read some of it. I could give you another link that says the oppisite. But why? The only thing I will say is that elected officials are voted into office to represent all the people. And when a president goes to a mock human sacrifice isn't representing me. Is that what you want your president to do? Go do this stuff while he campagins on the tv. Flying in gay porn stars give me a break.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
You could argue about this till your blue in the face. Not going to do it. I get the feeling that all you want to do is try to start a fight.


I don't want to start a fight, I just get very annoyed with people who call this a Christian nation. It offends me personally, and I know for a fact that I'm not alone. If you're going to all this a Christian country based on the points you've made, you may as well call this a Mason Nation, too. But you're right to end this argument here because it's just a smidgeon off topic.

I don't think anything in particular about this fraternity is very alarming except that it embarrasses our country to have our leaders engaging in such tomfoolery. But at the same time, I think the leaders of other nations are doing something quite like it, if not doing the exact same thing with our leaders in the Grove. It's possible that when you get to high enough level in the political echelons that you have to go with the flow, which may mean doing things that you don't like, but are traditions passed on from leaders of the past. I'm guessing they don't like to talk about it because they're embarrassed. I may have already posted this, but it's relevant in this post, too, so here's one of most famous Bohos speaking about the Grove:


"The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time — the (inaudible) and the others come there — but it is the most faggy g*dd*mn thing that you would ever imagine. The San Francisco crowd, it's just terrible. I can't even shake hands with anybody from San Francisco." — President Richard M. Nixon, Bohemian Club member starting in 1953 (Domhoff, p 15)


[edit on 27/11/06 by an3rkist]



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 08:37 PM
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I Disagree Strongly. They Participate in Human Mock Child Sacrifice. Need I Say More? THINK ABOUT IT !@$#! Idiot...Something is Normal about that? Moron..Something is going on there BOTTOM LINE



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by Spores From Space
I really do not like assuming the air of a debunker, I do believe their are hundreds of legitamate conspiracies out their, but Bohemia Grove is not one* It is nothing more than a hedonist club for politicians and millionaires, and should it really surprise people that politicians do not always follow the Christian standards they endorse? I mean, cmon, the leader of the evangilicals was recently arrested for soliciting a gay prostitute and meth possession !

I think Alex Jones takes all credibility away from the Bohemian Grove conspiracy theory, this guy is only a little less nutty than David Icke, and if all the spooky occult mumbojumbo went on there, would Jones even have been able to sneak in?
If Bohemia Grove is so explosive, a cia spook would not be able to get into that place much less Jones*

And if he DID get in and "break the story", so isnt he dead yet? Or in jail? or at the least censored?


[edit on 27-11-2006 by Spores From Space]
and Your a Gullible Idiot



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 08:53 PM
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Sin, maybe you are the gullible idiot. So many on here are so obsessed with the Skull and Bones, Bohemian Grove, Masons, so on and so forth. The reason why there is so much fascination is because they are "secret". It doesn't mean they go there to plot taking over the world, and killing everyone, and sacrificing humans to owls for god's sake! Perhaps the Skull and Bones is just what it is...a fraternity. Perhaps the Bohemian Grove is a place where rich and influential people go to unwind and make more connections. And perhaps the Masons is just some society that also makes connections to have people succeed and boost support for their little clubs.

The truth often sounds less exciting, I know


[edit on 27-11-2006 by RetinoidReceptor]



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by sin8339

Originally posted by Spores From Space
I really do not like assuming the air of a debunker, I do believe their are hundreds of legitamate conspiracies out their, but Bohemia Grove is not one* It is nothing more than a hedonist club for politicians and millionaires, and should it really surprise people that politicians do not always follow the Christian standards they endorse? I mean, cmon, the leader of the evangilicals was recently arrested for soliciting a gay prostitute and meth possession !

I think Alex Jones takes all credibility away from the Bohemian Grove conspiracy theory, this guy is only a little less nutty than David Icke, and if all the spooky occult mumbojumbo went on there, would Jones even have been able to sneak in?
If Bohemia Grove is so explosive, a cia spook would not be able to get into that place much less Jones*

And if he DID get in and "break the story", so isnt he dead yet? Or in jail? or at the least censored?


[edit on 27-11-2006 by Spores From Space]
and Your a Gullible Idiot




Thank you!

But tell me what seems more idiotic: To believe the Grove is one big social event with booze and maybe strippers, where the rich and powerful can unwind; or to believe it is a horror filled exercise in the occult complete with human sacrifice and shape shifting villains?



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 04:16 AM
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Here are some usefull informations

Bohemian Grove: Hell-Fire in a Forest

Personally I think Bohemian Grove is a Masters of the Universe convention for loosers, who think that if they engage in some pagan rituals and dress like girls, God will speak to them.

Sad.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:38 AM
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Thanks to everyone for your replies,Whitetail deer came in season yesterday and I spent the day hunting so I didn't get a chance to check all the replies.I'll be sure to watch all the video links you all provided,thanks again for all the great responses.
I can ALWAYS count on ATS when I need info on something that I know little or nothing about.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by sin8339
I Disagree Strongly. They Participate in Human Mock Child Sacrifice. Need I Say More? THINK ABOUT IT !@$#! Idiot...Something is Normal about that? Moron..Something is going on there BOTTOM LINE


Now now insults will not get your point across any better...
it is in bad taste...and a good way to bring the wrath of the mods.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 09:53 AM
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Well said Prove it
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sorry 4 the 1 liner)



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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Oh hi! I am new to the bohemian groove conspiracy. Basically it's a place where political leaders of all sorts go there to gather for a gathering of dancing and they make policy there. They even talk about a one world order there too. Not only that, but the politicians there gather there and they expect us to believe that it's a gathering for the rich and famous, which of course it isnt.

I found alex jones video documentary on the bohemian groove on google and you can find it here video.google.com...
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The bohemian groove is a place for sacrifices. In one ritual they performed they sacrificed twelve monkeys (I heard this on a documentary). They invite actors there... the actor who does the voice for mr. burns for the simpsons also goes there he said it was a cheap place for rich and famous people to go to and it's like he expects us to believe him.

I do believe that they have occult artifacts at the bohemian groove...



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:19 AM
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After investigating this and watching the documented video I see nothing innocent or amusing about this group. This is not mere blowing off steam or fun and games for the elite. This is a dark and sinister group.

I don't know about you but engaging in these rituals which involve burning sacrifice as well as other occult type activities is not my idea of fun.

There is something seriously wrong going on here and I am quite surprised at you an3 to take it so lightly.

I am really disturbed by this! Not only as a Christian but as an American.


[edit on 28-11-2006 by jbondo]



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by jbondo
After investigating this and watching the documented video I see nothing innocent or amusing about this group. This is not mere blowing off steam or fun and games for the elite. This is a dark and sinister group.

I don't know about you but engaging in these rituals which involve burning sacrifice as well as other occult type activities is not my idea of fun.

There is something seriously wrong going on here and I am quite surprised at you an3 to take it so lightly.

I am really disturbed by this! Not only as a Christian but as an American.


[edit on 28-11-2006 by jbondo]

I agree and I am in disgust of the various rituals performed at the bohemian groove. The bohemian groove basically bashes all sorts of religions and is a place for political leaders to perform their own rituals and it allows them to do the occult and all sorts of things. People from the illuminati go there. It's a place full of satanistic rituals and is a blasphamy for america. Then again they talk of the new world order or the one world order, so what if they are all reptillion over there?

I see why people would like to go to the bohemian groove and I see it's benefits but most of the policy gets made there and if they didnt go there the policy wouldnt get made and it's good for them but it is bad for us.

It's kind of like a double edged sword. And also, alot of the leaders from the country of Russia were meeting at the bohemian groove near the end of the cold war.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by sin8339
I Disagree Strongly. They Participate in Human Mock Child Sacrifice. Need I Say More? THINK ABOUT IT !@$#! Idiot...Something is Normal about that? Moron..Something is going on there BOTTOM LINE


Just so that everyone knows, this was dealt with.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by sin8339
I Disagree Strongly. They Participate in Human Mock Child Sacrifice. Need I Say More? THINK ABOUT IT !@$#! Idiot...Something is Normal about that? Moron..Something is going on there BOTTOM LINE


Just so that everyone knows, this was dealt with.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by jbondo
There is something seriously wrong going on here and I am quite surprised at you an3 to take it so lightly.


At first glance, and second glance, and possibly even third glance, I was in total agreeance with you. I don't disagree that what they're doing is wrong, but I think I disagree on their motives. First off, I think it is wrong not because they are performing occultic activities, but because they should be following the rules of the Bohemian Grove, which state that "Weaving spiders come not here". This means they're supposed to leave politics and work out of the Grove. Over the years they started breaking that rule more and more, including holding a meeting in the Grove in preparation for the Manhattan Project. If they are doing things like this, plotting things that I would disagree with, including a New World Order, then I disagree with that, too. But the fact is, if they don't do it in the Bohemian Grove, they're gonna do it somewhere else.

My own personal theory is that when politicians get high enough in the political heirarchy, they're amidst a crowd who are members of age old fraternities, and are pressured to join. They go with flow and participate in these ridiculously foolish "ceremonies" because the ceremonies have been done for over a hundred years, and like the Masons, they do them still today for nostalgic purposes no matter how ridiculous or outdated they may seem. The secrecy surrounding the Grove is probably either identical to the type of secrecy Freemasonry has, or they are just downright embarrassed about it and don't want to talk about it.

Needless to say, I don't much care what politicians and rich folk do on their own time, it is a free country. But if they are doing more than just having a foolish frat party; if they are dealing with government matters there, or if they are indeed dabbling in the occult and mixing it with government relation, then we need to find out and we need to stop them.

[edit on 28/11/06 by an3rkist]



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by jbondo
After investigating this and watching the documented video I see nothing innocent or amusing about this group. This is not mere blowing off steam or fun and games for the elite. This is a dark and sinister group.

I don't know about you but engaging in these rituals which involve burning sacrifice as well as other occult type activities is not my idea of fun.

There is something seriously wrong going on here and I am quite surprised at you an3 to take it so lightly.

I am really disturbed by this! Not only as a Christian but as an American.

Goodness me jbondo - don't ever go to the theater!

I finally got a chance to see the video in total and - what a huge diappointment. A show, presumably the same every year, where the 'bohemians' banish Dull Care from their lives, or at least while they stay at the Grove. All recognize that on leaving the grove Dull Care will return, so lets enjoy ourselves while we can. Sounds very much like the reason all of take vacations, to 'banish Dull Care'.

All this occult nonsense is complete hype - they'll be picking on Harry Potter next!

The show reminded me of a poem I once learned at school:


Begone, Dull Care!

Begone, dull care!
I prithee, begone from me
Begone, dull care!
You and I shall never agree
Long time hast thou been tarrying here
And fain thou wouldst me kill
But in faith, dull care
Thou never shall have thy will.

Too much care
Will make a man turn grey
And too much care
Will turn an old man to clay
My wife shall dance and I shall sing
So merrily pass the day
For I hold it one of the wisest things
To drive dull care away


(If you want to hear the tune go here)

So, in short, the product of a feverish and overactive imagination. I can't believe that this isn't obvious to everyone and that so many people are wasting their time on it.



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Trinityman
Goodness me jbondo - don't ever go to the theater!

I finally got a chance to see the video in total and - what a huge diappointment. A show, presumably the same every year, where the 'bohemians' banish Dull Care from their lives, or at least while they stay at the Grove. All recognize that on leaving the grove Dull Care will return, so lets enjoy ourselves while we can. Sounds very much like the reason all of take vacations, to 'banish Dull Care'.


I think jbondo is offended by the fact that they are not only mocking a human sacrifice, but they're mocking the sacrifice of a human baby. That's perfectly understandable and I for one would not participate in anything like that. I'm sure, though, that there is some kind of symbolism in the fact that it's a baby. Perhaps it represents how no matter how many times they "cremate" dull care, it is constantly reborn and must be cremated each year. That's just an idea though. They're still a bunch of rich looney bins.


All this occult nonsense is complete hype - they'll be picking on Harry Potter next!


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Poor Harry.


[edit on 28/11/06 by an3rkist]



posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 02:09 PM
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I am a Christian first and obviously you were not paying very close attention to the video trinity. As a Christian I have a big problem with occult activities being carried out and mixed with government on top of it. I'm not saying that this mix is taking place but if it smells like a...

And yes! I do have a problem with Harry Potter! If you can't see the occult there then you are not looking.

Yea, package something bad in a good looking package and it's just like downtown! No matter how you dress it up it is still the same thing.

Many of you are not Christians and don't know the Bible. I am merely stating my belief and how it affects me.




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