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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 02:33 AM
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I was wondering if someone could please explain the significance of Bohemian Grove.Where is it located and whats the big deal about it.Is it a place for worship or what?Has there been any ufo activity around it ,just curious cause I've seen it mentioned in other websites.Any and all info is welcomed.Thank you.




posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 02:41 AM
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video.google.com...

This video might be of interest to you. The Bohemian Grove interests me greatly. I believe there certainly is something going on there between rich and powerful people that the public does not know about. As Woodrow Wilson put it...


(Government ought to be all outside and no inside. . . . Everybody knows that corruption thrives in secret places, and avoids public places, and we believe it a fair presumption that secrecy means impropriety.)

- Woodrow Wilson


This is my first post BTW. I have been lurking on here for some time. Very intellectual place, but some people tend to make many many claims and form conclusions in their mind, like trying to determin a large puzzle with a dozen peices. Just my .02



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:00 AM
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How come whenever people try, and successfully point out this issue the Masons are always silent on it?

I've noticed that on similar types of threads some hide their heads in the sand about the whole thing.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:03 AM
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This video might be of interest to you. The Bohemian Grove interests me greatly. I believe there certainly is something going on there between rich and powerful people that the public does not know about.

Me too. I think their is much more then meets the eye here. I don't care that much of the stuff they do is based on Skakesphere plays. It's just odd that their is like a 15 year waiting list.

This is my first post BTW. I have been lurking on here for some time. Very intellectual place, but some people tend to make many many claims and form conclusions in their mind, like trying to determin a large puzzle with a dozen peices. Just my .02

It's a cool board as long as treat people with respect. There's many things I have disagreed about. I have said somethings but in a respectful manner. So play it cool with people and they will play it cool with you.


I was going to buy a house in Monte Rio. 1 bedroom 1 bathroom 545,900.00. There went my plans. Awsome big red wood trees all around the house just a great setting. Nice house. And yes if I would have got the house I would have tried to crash the party. Many people don't think anything unusual goes on. But to me I think much goes on that we don't know about. Weaving spiders come not here. They fly in gay porn stars at this place. Many have come out and said they were at th grove. But like most things of this nature it get laughed off. If there's anything else you want to know I will try to help. Been studying this crap for about 8 years now.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:11 AM
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You should check out this Video too.
Its the guys that were with AJ when he did the Bohemian Grove Docu.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:27 AM
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Sonomafreepress.com has all sorts of info including history, names of some members, etc. It is a secret organization of extremely well-connected, rich and powerful men.Yes, it's still a men only group, but now they do allow a few women to be waiters there each year. They meet for 2 weeks every July for a giant party and networking. There is lots of prostitution, homosexuality, drug use, especially Ecstasy and lots of lewd conduct. More importantly, there are also speakers such as Dick Cheney, Henry Kissinger, etc. who give talks about some political aspect. These talks are known as the Lakeside Talks.

Most importantly of all, THIS is where the really big decisions are made and policy is formed, all behind closed doors away from the public. And that's what makes this group dangerous and secretive, when they're supposed to be democratically elected politicians.
They also invite several actors or other celebrities to provide entertainment and to attend the gathering.

I used to live 4 miles away and went by the Grove often. It's in a little town called Monte Rio. It's beautiful there, if you've never seen redwoods, it will knock your socks off with its beauty.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 11:52 AM
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I also reading that Monte Rio is a big place for running meth. It also has a network of every major religion in the area. Is that true?

Most importantly of all, THIS is where the really big decisions are made and policy is formed, all behind closed doors away from the public. And that's what makes this group dangerous and secretive, when they're supposed to be democratically elected politicians.
They also invite several actors or other celebrities to provide entertainment and to attend the gathering.

This is so true and what makes these meetings total B.S. in my opinion. Something needs to be done to stop this garbage.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 12:36 PM
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Running meth, yes, I think that's pretty accurate. As for the network of all religions, I've never heard anything about that. Monte Rio is a very small little town, very nice. And they love to pander to the Boho Grove folks, providng them with prostitutes etc. They absolutely HATE any interference with their accomodation of Grove members since it bring in alot of money, supposedly. It's also where they send the cops who have been "bad" boys, cops that don't cut the mustard elsewhere.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 01:19 PM
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I have read a ton of stuff about the Bohemian Grove. I saw the video and everything. My personal opinion is that it's just a bunch of eccentric rich guys who want to spend time with people they have things in common with. The whole Cremation of Care is nothing more than a stupid show that they do for entertainment purposes, although its symbolism is meant to be that when they meet there for two weeks, they're supposed to leave all their worldly cares behind. It's like a bunch of retarded rich guys that get together for a stupid summer camp and do stupid things. I don't think it's much of a conspiracy in itself, although a meeting was conducted there among members planning the Manhattan Project, leading up to the use of the atom bomb. The Grove's motto is, "Weaving spiders come not here," which is from "A Midsummer Night's Dream". It's meant to mean that they shouldn't bring their politics and other outter problems into the Grove. The two weeks spent there is meant to be a vacation from their work and all. However, this motto doesn't seem to be adhered to very well. Politicians constantly make decisions and give speeches and all that while at the Grove. Here's kind of an interesting quote from a well-known member of the Grove:


"The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time — the (inaudible) and the others come there — but it is the most faggy g*dd*mn thing that you would ever imagine. The San Francisco crowd, it's just terrible. I can't even shake hands with anybody from San Francisco." — President Richard M. Nixon, Bohemian Club member starting in 1953 (Domhoff, p 15)


You can read more about the Grove and see a list of members here:

en.wikipedia.org...


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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 02:46 PM
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Yeah a bunch of drunk and hi politicans. I mean how the hell would politics get involved or even talked about? They just sit around the fire singing bible hymns. As far as the cremation of car goes they do that all the time in my church. We like to set fire to a plastic owl then take a plastic baby and start it on fire. We also chant "Weaving spiders come not here." Totally normal behaviour in my book. Sometimes we have male porn stars show up and sodimize them on the alter. Will we have plastic redwoods set up and pea on them will we have a beer in one hand and a joint in the other.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 03:00 PM
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I really do not like assuming the air of a debunker, I do believe their are hundreds of legitamate conspiracies out their, but Bohemia Grove is not one* It is nothing more than a hedonist club for politicians and millionaires, and should it really surprise people that politicians do not always follow the Christian standards they endorse? I mean, cmon, the leader of the evangilicals was recently arrested for soliciting a gay prostitute and meth possession !

I think Alex Jones takes all credibility away from the Bohemian Grove conspiracy theory, this guy is only a little less nutty than David Icke, and if all the spooky occult mumbojumbo went on there, would Jones even have been able to sneak in?
If Bohemia Grove is so explosive, a cia spook would not be able to get into that place much less Jones*

And if he DID get in and "break the story", so isnt he dead yet? Or in jail? or at the least censored?


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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 03:40 PM
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For something that's supposed to for fun Gegen get really pissed about his involvement at the groove.

Go here first and watch for yourself.
www.infowars.com...

Scroll through here and read about how Gegen resigned from the grove because he didn't want to run around naked. HUM that's nice our elected officials who are supposed to be christians run around naked. Yeah.


I mean, cmon, the leader of the evangilicals was recently arrested for soliciting a gay prostitute and meth possession !

Very true and what a assclown. Don't worry when judgement comes this guy will get what he deserves.

Before all the security measures it would have been no problem to sneak into that place. It's huge 2,700 acres of woods come on I could do it. Being an avid hunter no problem.

Here a link to how he go into the club.
www.illuminati-news.com...

One of the most commonly asked questions is: How did they get in?

Following is a transcript of a taped interview with Alex Jones, who describes his infiltration of the super-secret elitist camp and what he witnessed inside:

"The Bohemian Club lies within a range of large hills and cliffs with 300-400 ft. drops. The club itself consists of large log cabin-style homes built into the gorge walls.

There is only one entrance on the north side of the compound, which is a paved road, appropriately named "Bohemian Avenue."

A low barbed-wire fence surrounds the entire perimeter of the club, but the fence doesn’t matter because there is only one place where the hills come together, leaving an opening traversable by foot or car. Simply stated, the Bohemian Grove is a walled city.

After being dropped off near the Bohemian Club, we inserted ourselves into the woods about 100 yards from the main entrance. After going over the barbed wire fence, we found ourselves in what can only be described as a moat. The entire area along the road to the foot of the cliff walls had been dug out and flooded.

We were able to make our way across the expansive swamp by jumping from broken tree limbs and other debris.

There's more but go to the link.

And if he DID get in and "break the story", so isnt he dead yet? Or in jail? or at the least censored?

Alex has much light on him. If they killed or censored him it would bring down a storm. Sometimes it's better to stay silent then go out and get media involved.

Many of the photos from inside the grove sure look like those in Alex's video.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
HUM that's nice our elected officials who are supposed to be christians run around naked. Yeah.


Supposed to be Christians? What's that supposed to mean? Our elected officials are supposed to NOT affiliate government with religion, and I don't think you should ever refer to government officials as Christian.



I mean, cmon, the leader of the evangilicals was recently arrested for soliciting a gay prostitute and meth possession !

Very true and what a assclown. Don't worry when judgement comes this guy will get what he deserves.


Well, I'm not defending his criminal activity, but I promise you if this guy has anything coming to him it won't be because he's gay. He probably had to solicit a prostitute because in this society he would lose all respect if he had a normal relationship with another man, or if he got caught in a gay bar or something. I bet our narrow-minded society is to blame for him feeling he needs to try to solicit a prostitute rather than find a partner a normal way. But like I said, I'm not defending his criminal activities.


And if he DID get in and "break the story", so isnt he dead yet? Or in jail? or at the least censored?

Alex has much light on him. If they killed or censored him it would bring down a storm. Sometimes it's better to stay silent then go out and get media involved.


This is true, but another possibility is that the things that go on inside the Grove, as bizarre as they are, are just simply stupid performances for the eccentric minds who find that kind of whacked out stuff entertaining, and not at all an actual ceremony that would pin them as occultists or anything. Or maybe they're not saying anything to make us believe they have nothing to hide. That movie with Gegen is pretty interesting though. I find it strange that he kept using the word "gentlemen". The whole thing is starting to sound oddly similar to Freemasonry. The Masons have their weird rituals for historical reasons supposedly, perhaps the same is true for the Bohos, (that's what members of the Grove are called apparently.)

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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 04:24 PM
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Supposed to be Christians? What's that supposed to mean? Our elected officials are supposed to NOT affiliate government with religion, and I don't think you should ever refer to government officials as Christian.

Bush has said a number of times he is a christian. As has many of the world leaders have. When they say that yes they should live by what they say. If I was a pastor and said I'am a born again christian then go get meth and a gay man for some fun...you should be shocked and horrified by the actions.

as bizarre as they are, are just simply stupid performances for the eccentric minds who find that kind of whacked out stuff entertaining, and not at all an actual ceremony that would pin them as occultists or anything

Doing a mock human sacrfice to a owl is occult. It's just not right. All that stuff that goes there is not christian to say the least. I don't in my church walk around naked a pea on the furniture. Do you? Drunk and drugs. Nope not at my church. And if it did I would be out of there.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Doing a mock human sacrfice to a owl is occult. It's just not right. All that stuff that goes there is not christian to say the least. I don't in my church walk around naked a pea on the furniture. Do you? Drunk and drugs. Nope not at my church. And if it did I would be out of there.


I've seen movies where they re-enacted human sacrifices. Those actors were not occultists, atleast not necessarily. I'm just saying that you have to admit that most politicians and wealthy people are a little weird in the head. This whole thing might be some form of whacked out entertainment and nothing more.

And like I said, this whole thing has nothing to do with them doing "un-Christian-like" things. This is a FREE country, NOT a Christian country.

And as for your question: I don't go to church anymore. But these guys are not spending two weeks at church! They're all from different religious backgrounds and they're either there for a stupid frat party type thing, or they're doing something more sinister. Sex, drugs, booze, nudism: they're all good things in my book! Not on the scale these weirdos are doing, and I'm not sure why they wouldn't allow women there, but whatever. Am I defending them? Hell no! Whether they're being evil and conspiring or they're just having a big frat party, it's not what our government officials should be doing. End of story. The two weeks that they were having their Bohemian frat party/occultic worship "gathering" in 2004 I was in Iraq getting shot at and having roadside bombs blow up in an attempt on my life because of the very people who were dancing naked and just being stupid in general at that exact same time. I don't care what they're doing there, they need to be not doing it and focusing on their jobs.

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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:10 PM
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If it's not a christian country or at least putting up the front that we are. Why is it that back in the day I'd say 1780's everytime congress was in session they opened with a prayer? Or why on our money it says ,"IN GOD WE TRUST." Or almost every president we had say he's a born again christian and says he stands by what the bible says. Hum looks like a christian nation if I ever seen one.

I've seen movies where they re-enacted human sacrifices. Those actors were not occultists, atleast not necessarily. I'm just saying that you have to admit that most politicians and wealthy people are a little weird in the head. This whole thing might be some form of whacked out entertainment and nothing more.

This isn't neverland. It's amazing what people will do for that million dollar movie deal. Forget their beliefs, morals, and good judgement all for that fame. If it's just for entertainment why not sell a few tickets so normal joes such you or myself can go. No the only reason why they won't talk about it is cause they don't want people to know what's going on. The average person knows what's going on is wrong and would hold these people accountable. Their's more then meets the eye at BoHo. Many rich people are screwed in the head. They have no other means of getting off. All the money, chicks, and drugs you could shack a stick at but nope that's not enough. They gotta go do this crap.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
If it's not a christian country or at least putting up the front that we are. Why is it that back in the day I'd say 1780's everytime congress was in session they opened with a prayer? Or why on our money it says ,"IN GOD WE TRUST." Or almost every president we had say he's a born again christian and says he stands by what the bible says. Hum looks like a christian nation if I ever seen one.


In the very words of these men you speak of:


As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion


www.stephenjaygould.org...

"In God we trust" does not imply that it is the Christian God. And anyway, that little piece of money doesn't speak for everyone, it certainly doesn't speak for me. And who cares if all those presidents were Christian? They were all men, too, but our country isn't made up of only men. These men do not represent what our country is, and if you think they do then I feel very sorry for you.

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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by crowpruitt
I was wondering if someone could please explain the significance of Bohemian Grove.

There are tons of threads on the Bohemian Grove and the Bohemian Club here.
Here are the threads tagged with "Bohemian Grove":

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Fascinating topic.

Is it a place for worship or what?

Its not really a place of worship. Club members put on this little ritual called "Cremation of Care".

Any and all info is welcomed.Thank you.

If you are really interested, you should check out:
Who Rules America? By George Domhoff. That page is a little explanation of the book.

sociology.ucsc.edu...
It's an Elks Club for the rich; a fraternity party in the woods; a boy scout camp for old guys, complete with an initiation ceremony and a totem animal, the owl





jinsanity
How come whenever people try, and successfully point out this issue the Masons are always silent on it?

Why should it involve the masons? The Bohemian Grove isn't a masonic organization, and non-masons are in it. Assuredly, some members are also masons.



andy warhol
Something needs to be done to stop this garbage.

Why should free men not be permitted to gather in private? What does it matter if they are discussing policy? There is nothing illegal about that. Also, most of the people there aren't government officials, they are businessmen, the public doesn't have any business telling them who they are permited to network with.

I mean, cmon, the leader of the evangilicals was recently arrested for soliciting a gay prostitute and meth possession !
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Haggard wasn't arrested.

Don't worry when judgement comes this guy will get what he deserves.

He's going to hell for being gay?

Before all the security measures it would have been no problem to sneak into that place

People don't have to sneak in. Jones made a big show of sneaking into it, as if he was the first outsider to get into it. Domhoff did a much more thorough expose of the organization, its membership, its history, its implications, etc.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:32 PM
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First off I care. I don't like to be lied to. Do you?

They were all men, too, but our country isn't made up of only men. These men do not represent what our country is, and if you think they do then I feel very sorry for you.

Sure they represent what our country is. When one president says,"I'am a christian." Then get caught have oral sex in the white house it says much. And yes our country was founded on the christian religion. We only have forgotten it as we move forward in time. When you are elected to the highest office in the land and you hang out in these secret encampements and faternities you are not only a liar but should be kicked out of office. I would just as likely vote for a atheist or a mason if he could get this nation straightened out. Or at least tell the truth. I guess you like to lied to though.
Granted, God is not mentioned in the Constitution, but He is mentioned in every major document leading up to the final wording of the Constitution. For example, Connecticut is still known as the "Constitution State" because its colonial constitution was used as a model for the United States Constitution. Its first words were: "For as much as it has pleased the almighty God by the wise disposition of His Divine Providence…"

Most of the fifty-five Founding Fathers who worked on the Constitution were members of orthodox Christian churches and many were even evangelical Christians. The first official act in the First Continental Congress was to open in Christian prayer, which ended in these words: "...the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son, our Savior. Amen". Sounds Christian to me.

John Adams stated so eloquently during this period of time that; "The general principles on which the fathers achieved Independence were ... the general principles of Christianity ... I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that the general principles of Christianity are as etemal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."

So it looks to me that this nation was founded on god. And boho is not a christian encampment to say the least.




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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Andy Warhol
Sure they represent what our country is. When one president says,"I'am a christian." Then get caught have oral sex in the white house it says much.


See this is the example that I would use to argue against your point. So he went and did some horrible un-Christian-like thing, does that mean our nation is an un-Christian nation? The point is, if you let the men who sit in the oval office repesent our nation you're giving them way too much power. They don't represent the people, they represent themselves and their appointed office, and not a whole lot more.


And yes our country was founded on the christian religion. We only have forgotten it as we move forward in time.


Actually it's the exact opposite. As time has moved on we've forgotten that we're not a Christian nation. We are a FREE nation. A nation made up of people from every walk of life, every possible religion, every race. To say this is a Christian country is basically making people who are not Christian - like me - sound like we're not citizens of this country. Yes, Christianity has influenced our government in every possible way, but that does not make us a Christian country. And just to reiterate my point and show you that your statement about us forgetting over time that we are a Christian nation is a flawed theory, I will post the Treaty of Tripoli link again, and remind you that it was written by George Washington:

www.stephenjaygould.org...


So it looks to me that this nation was founded on god. And boho is not a christian encampment to say the least.


This nation was founded on principles taken from many philosophies, including Christianity. I would like to remind you that the term "God" doesn't always refer to the Christian God, so when using it you might want to specify which god you are talking about. And as for Bohemian Grove not being a Christian encampment, I don't believe anybody said it was.

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