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We are the New World Order - This is our declaration

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posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 01:18 AM
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Enough already.

We have become so delusional that we can no longer even recognize the basic facts about our own existance.

We the people are the New World Order. You, me, those guys looking over your shoulder, everyone, reguardless of race, creed, nationality or socio-economic status.

There is nothing else. Everything else is a manipulation by the dark forces of nature that seek power over thier fellow man.

We create our own New World Order or it will be created for us.


When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

www.archives.gov...


[edit on 27-11-2006 by In nothing we trust]




posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 04:20 AM
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Never a truer word said



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 04:44 AM
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We are and We are Not, and this is how We Are. The colors combined are black (dark powers), yet those in the 'finite realm of power' left out the white which makes grey. They are the dark, We are the white; together We and They combine to make grey. Punishment is the not of choice, All are to Be accepted, as All are free. We thrives Eternally in greyness



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 08:56 AM
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What about when NWO is created by aliens, and not us. That it is carefully staged to fit out view of reality. Then we are not the NWO, we are the slaves of it.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 09:30 AM
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INWT...

I'm beside myself as to how to interpret what point you are trying to make. On one hand, I agree. We, the people, could be seen as the New World Order. We are a race (regardless of nationality, ethnicity, color, or creed) of man (man and woman) that desires to be free from any form of oppression.

On the other hand, I disagree with the way you're putting the "desire to be free" society in the same context of the New World Order. The New World Order has for the past umpteen years referred to as a new society of control, IMO, setting us back to the very time of which we fought to break free of. Ever since Bush41 made the public speech of the NWO, IMO, it has gone against everything our Declaration of Independence has stood for.

The D.o.I. was in fact signed, giving sovereignty to the original 13 colonies against the oppression of the King of England. That was "our" way of saying, "Up yours!" to the taxation without representation. The original founders of America did not wish to take part in a form of control, without being able to voice our concerns, to be heard from such.

The New World Order that we look at today, is a complete reversal of what our founding fathers intended for America to share. The New World Order, in regards to steps being taken by our government today, is all about control. The "big brother" society is what makes up our government, and anyone can find factual proof of that today with the laws being signed and the executive orders that cut out the cheques and balances of the three branches of government.

IMO...


We the people are not the New World Order, with no way to construe it. We, the people, are what stands up to the New World Order that attempts to blind us with a false sense of security, in exchange for our rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of our happiness.


I give this article a



We, the people, are better than what you appear to have made us out to be.

[edit on 11/27/2006 by Infoholic]



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by InSaneTK
What about when NWO is created by aliens, and not us. That it is carefully staged to fit out view of reality. Then we are not the NWO, we are the slaves of it.


THis is the real issue, is it not?

Our way or thier way.



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Infoholic
The New World Order has for the past umpteen years referred to as a new society of control


Self mind control or mass mind control

It is very real.

[edit on 27-11-2006 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Nov, 27 2006 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Infoholic
We the people are not the New World Order, with no way to construe it. We, the people, are what stands up to the New World Order that attempts to blind us with a false sense of security, in exchange for our rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of our happiness.


I give this article a






posted on Nov, 28 2006 @ 06:34 PM
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To know we are free? Really. Free is a strong word. I'm not to certain that we are all free.



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by Infoholic
The New World Order has for the past umpteen years referred to as a new society of control


Self mind control or mass mind control

It is very real.

[edit on 27-11-2006 by In nothing we trust]


Or Hive controlled ?



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 03:31 AM
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IMO, the so-called NWO that seeks to control mankind is not really the New World Order...It's just a rehash of the control-systems that have been a bane of humanity throughout our known history.

Further, the Founding Documents of the USA (Declaration of Independence, Articles of Confederation & the Constitution) & the men who wrote them were trying to establish the real NWO against such long-term oppression.



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by Infoholic

We the people are not the New World Order, with no way to construe it. We, the people, are what stands up to the New World Order that attempts to blind us with a false sense of security, in exchange for our rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of our happiness.
We, the people, are better than what you appear to have made us out to be.


We the people have a job to do... pay taxes so the REAL NWO can do what they wish...

We the people can't stand up to much of anything these days, just whine about what the REAL NWO is doing on computer discussion groups...

Homeland security, the NSA and others have been stomping on our rights, life, liberty and the pursuit of our happiness since 911 and what have "We the peeps" done about any of it?

NADA Zip Nilch...

WTP...
:bash:

NWO...


And keep up the good work paying those over inflated gas prices... The Oil Barons love ya for it... and the Saudis all drive Mercedes and pay $0.00 in income tax!!

:shk:
Control is good! The sheep need a shepherd and they need dogs to nip at their heels and keep them in line or they will be prayed upon by wolves, [or the rams whose only goal in life is to f--- all the sheep]

And everyone knows that any good shepherd fleeces his sheep from time to time to make a new coat and might have mutton for dinner...


MMAAAHHHHH


[edit on 29-11-2006 by zorgon]



posted on Nov, 29 2006 @ 07:55 PM
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Ha I have you bested for i can channel the energies from darkness and delusion to diamond clarity. From any form of lost mathematics to the true love formulation.



posted on Dec, 1 2006 @ 04:40 PM
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Everyone knows we are the sheep of the new world order! The one world order was created I believe shortly after world war one. It is an attempt to blind people with the lull of false security with the appreciation of a new government that takes away your rights. If it was for the best I wouldnt be against it but it isnt and it is not what I like at all.



posted on Dec, 1 2006 @ 05:10 PM
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How can you controll a society? Fear and Ignorance...

What can you do with a society that is under controll? Anything...

How do you keep that society from rebelling? Undereducate the next generations....

These arn't new concepts, every ruler sence the dawn of time has used them to consolidate their power over the people that they seek to controll.

This new world order is no diffrent thain the orders that have come and gone. This too shall pass. In the end the Visigoths come over the 7th hill and sack the paverbial Rome and we all get fractionalised again.

We fall into annother dark ages and have to struggle once again with fear and ignorance untill annother renasance period comes allong. New thoughts imerge and people educate themselves. The powerfull find themselves at the gallows and a true freedom imerges in the form of anarchy.

This of course is short lived because we all want stability in our lives we all desire that leader to imerge that savior that person that has all the answers to lead us out of the darkness into the light.

However at this point several of these leaders have imerged each with their own adgendas and ways of doing things. Fearfull of being taken over the new leaders initiate propaganda to tell their subjects that hey these people across the border are evil and want to destroy your way of life. The other peoples leader does the same and eventualy a war breaks out.

eventualy some more influential people come together and plan a new way of doing things. Their goal is to unify mankind into a global community the seeds of annother NWO are sewn. Countries voluntaraly merge with each other, globitalisation occours, free markets take hold.

But wait, someone isnt happy with the things the way they are going. This person sees that this NWO is out to take all of his freedom away in the name of safety and security of the state. (perhaps he is correct) He sends his message out to whomever will listen.

Enough people hear the cries for freedom from this individual and the state sees this as a threat to their unity. Well the state can't have that so they silence this individual (political prisoner, death) well its too late the too many people got wind that they are now the visigoths, a group within the society that has no controll over that society. anger and hatred grows untill they too cross the 7th hill into Rome and sack it.

Cant you see we are stuck in a rut with no way out. There is no way possible to keep everyone happy. Just can't do it. People love their misery and if there is nothing to be miserable about they will seek out and find that misery. It is a part of our human nature to suffer and feel downtroden in that way we have something to strive for.

No matter how well a NWO is planned there are always going to be those who feel slighted by the concept or feel that they have been wronged.

So I guess there is a choice to be made within each of us. Do we want to be apart of the new roman empire or do we want to be the Visigoths who sack and destroy that empire?

Someone said something that is completely true, "Freedom is just annother word for nothing left to loose, Nothing thats all you got if you ain't free" Jannis Joplin

If you think about it it's kinda the chicken and the egg thing.



posted on Dec, 2 2006 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
These arn't new concepts, every ruler sence the dawn of time has used them to consolidate their power over the people that they seek to controll.

This goes along very well with what I had in mind when I wrote this thread a long time ago.

Originally posted by whatuknoIn the end the Visigoths come over the 7th hill and sack the paverbial Rome and we all get fractionalised again.

IMO, the "Visigoths" are already here & still coming...Remember the massive illegal immigration taking place even as we post here?

Originally posted by whatukno
Their goal is to unify mankind into a global community the seeds of annother NWO are sewn. Countries voluntaraly merge with each other, globitalisation occours, free markets take hold...
...anger and hatred grows untill they too cross the 7th hill into Rome and sack it...

And thus history repeats itself in the same manner as it always has, all down throughout known human history, running in cycles & circles.
And yet, the Founding Fathers of the USA had the guts to try something new! It's because of the Freedoms & Rights for the Individual concept is why the "powers that be" have been concentrating on bringing down the USA in the first place...The whole concept of individuals having the Right to Self-Determinism is a complete antithesis to their view that the "masses" should serve the "elite" & should always be glad to do so.

Originally posted by whatukno
No matter how well a NWO is planned there are always going to be those who feel slighted by the concept or feel that they have been wronged.

Because all they really do is rehash their ideas about control over the masses that make up the "Old World Order" & actually do slight & wrong a lot of people along the way.
The Constitutional Republic of America's Founding Forefathers was a bold experiment in that it broke away from that Old World Order! That was their supreme goal in founding the USA in the first place! They tried to break the cycle of repeating history!

Originally posted by whatukno
If you think about it it's kinda the chicken and the egg thing.

Well, actually, if you consider the history of evolutionary life on Earth...The egg came first: Fish, amphibians & reptiles were laying eggs long before the chicken ever evolved...


[edit on 2-12-2006 by MidnightDStroyer]



posted on Dec, 2 2006 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust
THis is the real issue, is it not?

Our way or thier way.


I like your logic, it is more efficient to direct than to fight and we cannot fully stop what is happening but in order to direct this the way we want everyone has to wake up first.

A NWO that most can believe in is okay but we don't have anything like that right now.



posted on Dec, 2 2006 @ 01:11 AM
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Posted by MidnightDStroyer; And thus history repeats itself in the same manner as it always has, all down throughout known human history, running in cycles & circles.
And yet, the Founding Fathers of the USA had the guts to try something new! It's because of the Freedoms & Rights for the Individual concept is why the "powers that be" have been concentrating on bringing down the USA in the first place...The whole concept of individuals having the Right to Self-Determinism is a complete antithesis to their view that the "masses" should serve the "elite" & should always be glad to do so.


Actualy the concept behind the United States of America isnt that new. Remember we are a Republic not a Democracy, also remember that much of what is stated in our beloved and honored constitution is pretty much a rip off and rehash of the Magna Carta. Rome once was a Republic but that turned into an Empire.

What humanity needs is not a democracy or a republic or a dictatorship or a comunist society it needs something quite new. Something radicly diffrent thain a centralised form of government perhaps a referendum society, where all decisions are based uppon a free vote among all the people and anything that has to be pased is laid out for all to read and think about before the individual votes for it. No centralized leadership only the individual and thus collectivly the civilization brings about its own laws and governs itself.



posted on Dec, 2 2006 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by whatukno
...Actualy the concept behind the United States of America isnt that new. Remember we are a Republic not a Democracy...

I do remember that...In fact, I even posted such earlier. It's just that the Constitution demands a Republic form of government, but the government has been perverted away from it.
Still, my main point was that, it's less important what the form of government is: What's important about the Declaration of Independence is that it states the the People have a Right to "alter or abolish" any form of government that refuses to acknowledge & enforce Human Rights for its Citizens. It's just that the Founding Fathers saw a Constitutional Republic as the most likely form of government to see through the goals of the concept for ensuring Individual Freedoms & Rights.

I haven't forgotten the Magna Carta either...After all, it's the document that the English Crown agreed to & then consistently violated & what drove the original colonists to immigrate to North America; In essence, it's the primary document that initially led into the eventual birth of the USA as an independent nation. When the Crown further violated the Magna Carta, the colonists petitioned & issued Grievences to the English Crown & were further oppressed & suppressed for their trouble. In response came the Declaration of Independence, the War of Independence & the Articles of Confederation before the Constitution was written.
I've covered this bit of history in a thread over here some time ago...Also, here, here, here, here, here, here & here are just a few of my posts (recent & ancient) that address how much the current government actually violates the sworn Oath to "preserve, protect & uphold" the very Constitution that they bind themselves to as a legal contract. Does not the mere violation of of the Constitution & the Oath constitute committing a federal crime, in & of itself?
The Constitution merely happens to demand a Republic form of government, but our Oath-bound "leaders" consistently violate that which they're Oath-bound to defend. Corporations get more Rights than Citizens...& were even granted Rights as Citizens when they're not even actual human beings! The Government can (legally, but not Constitutionally) claim "sovereign immunity" against the very People that they've sworn to serve...Another blatant violation that takes us even further from either Republic or Democracy & closer to another Monarchy or Fascist State.


Originally posted by whatukno
What humanity needs is not a democracy or a republic or a dictatorship or a comunist society it needs something quite new. Something radicly diffrent thain a centralised form of government perhaps a referendum society, where all decisions are based uppon a free vote among all the people and anything that has to be pased is laid out for all to read and think about before the individual votes for it. No centralized leadership only the individual and thus collectivly the civilization brings about its own laws and governs itself.

What you describe sounds like a "Consensual Anarchy," and it could even work...In theory. This would basically be placing the responsibility of enforcing an individual's Rights & Freedoms upon every individual who claims them...But that would fracture a society into small, geographical groups that could only organize & defend themselves on a small scale, at best.

However, the reason that the Founding Fathers did not try to enforce such a social system is because people do need some kind of organization to oversee relations with foreign powers (who are not likely to uphold the concepts that could make a Consensual Anarchy feasible), focus national resources towards publicly-beneficial goals & defend the society (as a whole) from an organized invasion. The organization thus formed was intended to enforce the concept of Rights & Freedoms when threatened by other "organizations" that have the power to overwhelm small groups of individuals.
People do need governments, after all...The Founding Fathers tried to install a type of government that would actually serve the People it governs, but it has instead been perverted to serve for the good of Corporations.



posted on Dec, 2 2006 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by denythestatusquo

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
THis is the real issue, is it not?

Our way or thier way.


I like your logic, it is more efficient to direct than to fight and we cannot fully stop what is happening but in order to direct this the way we want everyone has to wake up first.

A NWO that most can believe in is okay but we don't have anything like that right now.


They started it, let's finish it.



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