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? Who Else here thinks that Humans, are not Native to this planet?

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posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 10:27 AM
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One can plant a seed into an earth matter and expect a plant to grow natively from its native origin, thus to plant a human seed into an earth and nourish the land with (5 universal-elements) in hope of a natively grown human-cell is an art of a genius.




posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Regenstorm
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It's not more than a little gut feeling that we are not from here, or evolved like Darwin suggested.

2 Things:

Why don't we have a sense for upcoming earthquakes like most animals have?

Why don't we know automatically what we can and cannot eat like most animals?


These are your qualifiers for a belief that humans came from some other planet? Seriously?

I know that belief in the implausible may bridge gaps in your knowledge. However, actually acquiring the knowledge goes a lot further than validating those implausible beliefs.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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The world is flat. The earth is the center of everything. We were made from dirt. We know everything and there's no more to learn.
Thats the debunkers point of anchor.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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Not a bad point but most dogs will eat chocolate if given to them even though it makes them sick. Heck, dogs will eat just about anything that is given to them.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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I feel a bit weird writing this ... but I'm actually writing a book about this kind of thing.

However, I do believe we are 'native' to Earth ... but I believe we are the result of splicing the genetics of two other races (not prepared to state which at the moment). And Earth is basically a big laboratory.

Encounters/abductions = our creator breeds checking up on their experiment.

Obviously there are a lot more to it ... nothing is that simple or straightforward ... but that's all I'm prepared to say right now.

Just my personal opinion - make of it what you will - or choose to disgard it if you prefer.

Woody



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
The world is flat. The earth is the center of everything. We were made from dirt. We know everything and there's no more to learn.
Thats the debunkers point of anchor.


Strawman argument. You got anything informative or enlightening to add to this thread? Didn't think so.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by woodwytch
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I feel a bit weird writing this ... but I'm actually writing a book about this kind of thing.

However, I do believe we are 'native' to Earth ... but I believe we are the result of splicing the genetics of two other races (not prepared to state which at the moment). And Earth is basically a big laboratory.

Encounters/abductions = our creator breeds checking up on their experiment.

Obviously there are a lot more to it ... nothing is that simple or straightforward ... but that's all I'm prepared to say right now.

Just my personal opinion - make of it what you will - or choose to disgard it if you prefer.

Woody


Now you're talkin'... I'm willing to entertain ideas regarding manipulation of the Human genome. Would really like to read your book when and if it's published.... even if it's not.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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You may be in luck ... I'm planning to build a website in the new year for my work on this subject so far. I've been working on it for over a decade and it's still a work in progress.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no natural end to the 'book' ... that's why I've decided to release it this way ... then I can just keep adding to it as time progresses.

Judging from the critiques I've had from the select few who have read the existing manuscript, they all say similarly that it has made them think in a different way (I take that as a good thing)


And I never make a statement in the manuscript without some recognized / established facts to support my points.

I'll u2u you when the site is up and running ... might take a few weeks ... but hopefully you'll find it worth the wait.

Woody



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by woodwytch
reply to post by Anamnesis
 


You may be in luck ... I'm planning to build a website in the new year for my work on this subject so far. I've been working on it for over a decade and it's still a work in progress.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no natural end to the 'book' ... that's why I've decided to release it this way ... then I can just keep adding to it as time progresses.

Judging from the critiques I've had from the select few who have read the existing manuscript, they all say similarly that it has made them think in a different way (I take that as a good thing)


And I never make a statement in the manuscript without some recognized / established facts to support my points.

I'll u2u you when the site is up and running ... might take a few weeks ... but hopefully you'll find it worth the wait.

Woody


Outstanding... sounds like you are "doing it right". Honestly looking forward to it... I've enjoyed your thoughtful comments here so I'm sure I'll enjoy the book as well..

Thanks again!



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by Kaytagg

Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
No I think the point he was making is that there may be a common link between all of us - from the rackus worm of Polax 5 in the Awa system, to the fruit flies of the 3'rd planet in the Alpha Quadrant of the Sol system.



Oh. Well, we don't share 98% of our DNA with fruit flies, or anything else besides chimpanzees, for that matter, so the point remains the same.


Only if you're going to use a strict 98% and everything below that is void.

Considering the fruit fly shares nearly 60% of human genes which is why they are studied so well in relation to human disease..

Some even claim we share nearly 40% dna with bananas - and others claim bananas are fruit of the gods, or otherwise referred to as fruit given to us from otherworldly inhabitants.

And fruit flies do like bananas.

So do chimpanzees for that matter.


If we were from mars, then so are chimpanzees. That seems highly unlikely..


Perhaps all life in this area of the universe shares the basic dna building blocks. That was the point. We've yet to find any so it's all moot.


And, really, the point is that we evolved from primates. So.. I guess take from that what you will. My interpretation of the thread was that "we're too special to be from earth, ergo we're aliens' babies."

[edit on 28-12-2009 by Kaytagg]


We didn't evolve from primates at all.... We evolved from a common ancestor.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 02:32 PM
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I think it could be possible that we are from another planet, why not. Also we could've evolved from micro organism's. I to think that there might be other humans out there somewhere along with a vast array of other aliens and creatures. But if we find anything weird looking on another planet, its not gonna scare me any...there are a ton of weird creatures on this planet that look mean as hell. The only way i would get creeped out of there is some big nasty looking thing waiting to eat me.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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in my view, All humans are natural to the planet Earth....

even the last entry to the spectrum of mankind, the 'Adamic' man & woman who were Engineered,
and genetically altered from the then current populations of sapiens-sapiens by those scientist-creators , at the iconic Garden-of-Eden some ~6,000 years ago



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by St Udio



in my view, All humans are natural to the planet Earth....

even the last entry to the spectrum of mankind, the 'Adamic' man & woman who were Engineered,
and genetically altered from the then current populations of sapiens-sapiens by those scientist-creators , at the iconic Garden-of-Eden some ~6,000 years ago


Well? Cough it up! What makes you believe these things? I'm not disagreeing but would like to know your thoughts.

Personally, I think "engineered" is a good possibilty considering the creation myths of the Sumerians. Not to mention the clear disparity between Homo-Erectus and Homo-Sapiens. I don't think that a "missing link" was ever found.

Also, you mention "Adamic" man, a clear reference to the biblical story of creation. Genesis 2:7 "He breathed the breath of life into the man's nostrils, and the man became a living person." To me this is a possible indication of genetic manipulation as well. If DNA is code, and code is merely language, we breathe as we speak... "the breath of life"... another way of saying genes?

Anyway... you see what I mean. Would be great if you would expand...

and BTW.. if you say that the engineering occured about 6,000 years ago how do you account for the genetic studies that indicate modern humans (Homo Sapiens) left Africa about 145,000 years ago? Mitochondrial studies indicate modern humans originated as far back as 200,000 years ago

I may also be able to provide arguments and theory that will show that the "Garden of Eden" is not iconic but historical and can be located but I will wait to see if you respond.

Please don't think I am berrating you. My writing style can seem abrupt and harsh at times but I am just trying to clarify my own thoughts as well.

~peace


[edit on 28-12-2009 by Anamnesis]



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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I think this could go either way. My thoughts on this are that we have alot of evidence in both counterparts. No we do not have absolute proof of either, that much is fact. We are missing dna info, we are also still looking for a missing link that should have been found long ago. And yes, we all have
a common ancestor, who that is is another question entirely. We share dna from many creatures, but without that link, it means nothing, because that is the one absolute connection we must find to be able to fully proof that apes are our common ancestor.

As for the other side. There is still alot to discover about ourselves and where we came from. You can be sure that this story won't have a simply ending once it's revealed. If we truly came from space or were made by someone, or even modified by the slightest, then that changes everything we thought we knew about humanity. It is a valid counter theory to the norm, and should be taken seriously much much more. All ancient cultures had similar accounts of gods coming down from the sky, but it is far more likely that these were advanced beings from other planets or even higher dimensions. That at least gives some leaverage to the argument that we were tampered with. Whether we were fully created and brought here or whether we forgot our true past, that is a whole other issue.

Let's keep this clean please, no more unecessary bickering, because that brings us nowhere. Let's look at both sides with serious scientific and spiritual study because that is the key to solving this, not arguing.

[edit on 28-12-2009 by HanyouSpirit]



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 08:45 PM
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the more you ponder the further you are away from where your being tells you are from.

deep ponderance leads on off this world into the abysis on a journey to heaven "the visible atmospher" kingdom on another planet >?
whom ever made man in their image, from wence they came>?



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 09:04 PM
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wow. you get alot of garbage posts on these forums. only a few decent posts since my first one the rest is people BSing each other about who's opinion is right and who has the biggest vocabulary. this should be a website where you can post your ideas so that some idiot can come along who hasnt even thought about or taken your full argument into consideration and put down your philosophy with two sentences of garbage, that describes their whole world.

well done smart people



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 09:13 PM
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I believe that we are stardust with the breath of God, the spark of life, in us. I believe that we are not from somewhere else, but will return to our existence free of this 3D matrix upon death. Arguing about whether we are from here or Mars or Andromeda is about as interesting as two microbes arguing over which square millimeter they occupy.

We are natives, and we are travelers.



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 10:07 PM
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Maybe this might shed some light on this issue...
www.theonion.com...



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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That was pretty much the dumbest thing Ive ever read...



posted on Dec, 28 2009 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by semperfi221
I keep having an erie feeling that humans are not native to earth but are common among this galaxy ? and if thats the case, why would they leave earth ? please post your thoughts, i think the show stargate Sg1 got it right on the head

[edit on 24-11-2006 by semperfi221]


I've thought this too. The idea that humans "evolved" into separate, distinct races is absurd. A more realistic theory is that they were brought here, maybe as a sociological experiment. Who knows, but I do think humans are common throughout the universe.



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