92 Year Old Woman Goes Out Shooting When Cops Kick Down the Door(Update), page 3
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reply posted on 22-11-2006 @ 02:48 PM by holymoley
as far as everyone's question of whether or not the police announced themselves goes, maybe they did not. however, this does not mean it is necessarily illegal. the state of georgia (along with most of the other states in the us) have what you call "no knock warrants". they are more difficult to obtain than regular search warrants. the criteria for a no knock warrant is (1) according to informers the subject whose residence is to be searched had threatened to shoot the next police who entered his/her residence, and (2) the affiant felt that giving the subject notice would permit him/her to flush the evidence. if the judge actually signed one of these warrants, then im sure the cops had been watching the house for a long time and possibly setting up buys with informers. i think its wrong to assume absolute innocence of the lady, as its also wrong to assume the cops were out of line and acting in an illegal manner based on a one page abc news article.

why is it so difficult to believe a 92 year old woman may have had some involvement with dealing drugs??? its estimated that 17% of elderly in the united states abuses drugs. these drugs are not crack or meth. the drugs most commonly abused are prescription painkillers (vicodin, oxycontin, ets) and benzodiazepines (xanax, valium, klonopin, etc). i'm not labeling this woman as guilty, but i'm saying don't assume she could be incapable of having involvement with drugs based on her age. its best to just keep an open mind until more information is released.


reply posted on 22-11-2006 @ 02:52 PM by esdad71
When serving a drug warrant, you go in with jsut as you do any other time, on guard. It is unfortunate that this woman was killed, but she did hit 3 officers. We do not have privy to the ballistics or police reports so we do not have the whole story. I cannot beleive no one has blamed Bush yet. WHere's Kanye when you need him?

I will venture to guess however

a) she has a relative dealing out of the house
b) she may not have known about it and is now dead
c) there are some guilty grandchildren somewhere

Narc busts happen with the front door kicking open most times, sometimes gas, but even if they announced themselves, she probably thought she was bieng robbed. It would not be the frist time people posed as officers in a home invasion.

I am sure all the officers did was return fire, (I would during a felony warrant), probably not knowing where the shooter was if she hit 3 of them.

This is right place, wrong time, which happens when executing a warrant. That said however....




www.allheadlinenews.com...

Describing the incident, Officer Joe Cobb, a police spokesman said a woman inside started shooting the moment they approached the house about 7 pm. The officers just returned fire.

WAGA-TV said that Sarah Dozier, a niece of the woman denied any presence of drugs at the house.

"My aunt was in good health. I'm sure she panicked when they kicked that door down," Dozier said. "There was no reason they had to go in there and shoot her down like a dog."



This article say she started shooing 'before' the officers reached the house. Sorry, but gun toting granny chose the wrong day to 'keep it real'.

and this article




www.news4jax.com...

Atlanta Police Asst. Chief Alan Dreher said at a news conference Wednesday that an undercover officer made a drug purchase at Johnston's address late Tuesday afternoon from a male suspect. Officers were able to obtain a search warrant after that.

Dreher said as the officers were executing the search warrant, the officers announced themselves and then forced open the door. Officials said the warrant was a "No Knock" warrant -- meaning that the officers did not knock before forcing open the door, but they did announce themselves

Officials said they have not made any arrests in the case and they have not located the male suspect. Dreher said suspected narcotics were recovered from the home but police are awaiting lab results to confirm that.

Dreher said a marked patrol vehicle was parked in front of the residence and the word "Police" was written across the front and back of the narcotics team's vests. He also said only a matter of minutes passed between when officers arrived at the scene and when they forced open the door.



So it seems that there was a drug buy from the residence, durgs were found in the residence, and that the officers were wearing vests with POLICE on them. AMazing how the truth can be twisted, isn't it folks.

[edit on 22-11-2006 by esdad71]



reply posted on 22-11-2006 @ 03:37 PM by clearwater
What a tragedy, a little old lady is shot down in her home like a dog. You'd think a two bit drug dealer was a worse crime than murder. What was she doing sharing her arthritis medication with a poor neighbour?

Murder is killing without a license from kangaroo court. Terry Reed of Air Force Intelligence who wrote the book "Compromise: Clinton, Bush and the CIA," gave this interview to Alex Jones on his "Police State 2, The Takeover: When fear is the reaction, tyranny is the Result" video.




"I came to the table with a background in Air Force Intelligence - 8 years during the Vietnam war. I worked with the CIA and Air America, so I know how the intelligence community functions, how it's organized. After my discharge from the air force, I worked directly with the FBI's counter-intelligence division for 3 years and then that led me into contract work with the CIA.

In an obscure place called Mena Arkansas, back when Bill Clinton was governor and George Bush [Sr] was president. I personally witnessed complicity between these two men in terms of transporting cocaine into the US for the purpose of sales to generate money to fight a war. That war at the time was the conflict in Central America involving the Sandinista's and Nicaragua. In 1970 - it's well documented that the organization that was flying classified materials for Air America was code-named scat bag, was busted. This whole fleet of airplanes and pilots was busted for hauling in heroin disguised as classified material. In an attempt to smuggle that back to Hawaii. If you can get to Hawaii, it's a free ride back to the United States, because that's part of the United States.

I met Oliver North in 1982, He was with the National Security Council. He was the man who recruited me as a civilian to get involved in the contra re-supply organization. He told me this was taking place in Mena Arkansas. That George Bush [Sr] was overseeing the entire project. In order to insulate the executive branch from the scheme, because certainly there were constitutional considerations there, I went to Mena. I met a man named Barry Seal. Who, I was told, was the CIA contractor - who had the contract to re-supply the contras. In fact, I found a large base there under construction. I was hired initially to be a flight instructor. My last tour of duty in South-East Asia was to assist the Cambodians and equip them to fight a covert war.

Here we were doing basically the same kind of training. This time we were equipping Nicaraguans to fight communism in Central America. After walking around with blinders on for 2 years, I could no longer deny what was really going on. As I document and discuss in my new book - Compromise, it's a book I wrote on the subject, "Compromise: Clinton, Bush and the CIA."

In 1987, I came face to face with a C130 full of cocaine. Just literally tons of it stored in ammunition boxes on a flight that was returning. From that point on, I couldn't deny it and I asked for a full-scale investigation and went directly to Oliver North, I might point out, to request for that to occur. And the investigation obviously didn't happen.

I was labeled a security risk and a threat to the operation, which clearly showed to me that this was being sponsered and sanctioned by the US government. I have no way of knowing [the percentage of drugs being imported by the NAS or CIA] but I use logic on these kinds of scenarios. If you are to believe the pentagon, and I do, we have a security net over this country. Downlooking satelites and radar that's designed to stop as small an incoming target as an air to ground missile launched from a Soviet MiG out of Cuba.

If that's the case, and I believe we can do that, it's been proven time and time again we can, you have to ask yourself - 'How are all these drugs getting into the country?'"

Alex Jones - "Who get's busted?"

"The independent, the entrepreneur, the little guys. The guys with a cessna who gets caught with a duffle bag full and goes to prison for life. The juxtaposition for that is a C123 with 5 tons coming in unabated."

AJ - "How do we stop this?"

"We the American people, first off, say we don't want a war on drugs. I'm for total legalization of drugs. Black market is what the problem is. The profits are there, take the profit out. Not only that, anybody else who is in the trade surfaces like a cold sore real abruptly. The banks that launder the money would surface and probably go bankrupt. It'd be an interesting experiment. I've always said, to - Let's say we're not going to do this permanently, but for 3 months. For 90 days, we're going to legalize cocaine, just to see the reaction of corporations, companies and big business that are in the drug business and the banks that launder the proceeds and watch them surface. Because they would go into withdrawl real abruptly."

AJ- "Isn't the war on drugs also creating the police state they'd like?"

"That's my greatest concern. I don't say let's legalize drugs because I want to see you use drugs, or anybody else. We have not had a war on drugs, we've had a war on our bill of rights under the guise of a war on drugs. I never thought I'd live to see the day in this country that I fought for to have roadblocks. Arbitrary roadblocks, now passengers in vehicles have no rights, as you know - that passengers have an obligation to show his or her identification.. The test case before the supreme court, as we speak, is - are passenger's belongings in a vehicle subject to involuntary search. And I believe the supreme court will go along and say the police have the right to stop and search you and anybody else in a vehicle.

The 4th amendment is worthless. It's been trampled on, it's useless. So if we want to return to a nation of greatness, we're forced to legalize drugs. Just simply to preserve our civil liberties guaranteed us under the bill of rights. To me that person [drug addict] is alot less threat than a group of SWAT team officers kicking down a door and inadvertantly shooting the wrong guy."



They're not doing it to keep you safe or address the problem of addiction. In countries where drugs have been de-criminalized and made available safely to addicts, the recovery rate is higher and the social problem far less toxic. Course this way they can make more money on the prison labour, and kill granny.

Apologies mods for the redundancy, some things are worth repeating.


reply posted on 22-11-2006 @ 06:50 PM by soficrow
Originally posted by gallopinghordes
How can anyone say the cops shot her down like a dog. The article clearly states she started firing as they were approaching the house




Hmmm.




The officers had a legal warrant, "knocked and announced" before
they forced open the door and were justified in shooting once fired upon, he said.

...As the plainclothes Atlanta police officers approached the house about 7 p.m., a woman inside started shooting, striking each of them, said Officer Joe Cobb, a police spokesman.

One was hit in the arm, another in a thigh and the third in a shoulder. The officers were taken to a hospital for treatment, and all three were conscious and alert...




So let me get this straight:

This elderly woman shot at police while they were in her yard, hitting each one, after which they reached the door, knocked, announced their identities, and stated they had a warrant.

They all also had superhuman powers, apparently.





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