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Miracle of the Sun at Medjugorje on Video

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posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by selfless

Originally posted by SkyWay
Inconsistent approaches like that will not lead you to the truth.


Ok, you may think that if you want but here is what i think about it and im not trying to insult anyone.


To simply believe everything you are told from when you are born is just like getting trapped into a web of delusion because everything that was ever created on this planet are inventions and they are not more true then nature it self.


And to simply believe in something, like a third eye, because it is novel is the worst kind of gullibility. Has it ever occurred to you that what you have been told from the beginning is the truth and that the new age myths about third eyes has no basis in fact. Many of you people who think you have a third eye are actually deluding yourselves with your own imagination. That's all it is. Your imagination. We all have that but most of us don't fantasize about it as though it were some special mystical feature. That's silly.




posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

Originally posted by selfless

Originally posted by SkyWay
Inconsistent approaches like that will not lead you to the truth.


Ok, you may think that if you want but here is what i think about it and im not trying to insult anyone.


To simply believe everything you are told from when you are born is just like getting trapped into a web of delusion because everything that was ever created on this planet are inventions and they are not more true then nature it self.


And to simply believe in something, like a third eye, because it is novel is the worst kind of gullibility. Has it ever occurred to you that what you have been told from the beginning is the truth and that the new age myths about third eyes has no basis in fact. Many of you people who think you have a third eye are actually deluding yourselves with your own imagination. That's all it is. Your imagination. We all have that but most of us don't fantasize about it as though it were some special mystical feature. That's silly.




Again you're just assuming things, i almost don't read anything when it comes to my existence i simply am alive i don't have to explain anything to you, everything that i live and all my goals and all my perception are my own they are not related to this planet's idealogy, i am not here to tell you what to think and i don't want you to tell me what to think either.


So please, stop inventing things on me and get back on the subject of this thread, the youtube video.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:08 PM
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so now hoping that you stop picking on me personaly skyway, let's get back on the thread subject...




Ok, so is there another way to put up a video besides youtube and google video? if not then i will try google video, how does that work?



please no more off subject shinanigans.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay


What I mean by this is that all of the creatures that are presenting themselves as aliens/extraterrestrials and have been flying around in what people generally refer to as ufos are in actuality...demons. They are not from other planets, nor other solar systems, nor other galaxies...they are from hell. These are devils which are here to deceive as many people as they can to lead them away from their true Creator God. But they will be defeated when the Lord returns to Earth and cast back into hell.



Ive herd this theory before..and i have trouble believing in it.

if your right ,then what is the prupose for all the other planets,solar systems,and galaxies? are you trying to say that earth is the only inhabitated planet in this big playground called the universe?

why would "god" create such a big area ..and then have only us humans to praise his glory? im sure more races are out there that are far more advanced mentally and spiritually then us.



I think hell is a state of mind,becoing futher attached to god,being less spiritaul..but soon there will also be a physicall hell..which is gonna be the earth after natural and man made disasters occur between now and 2012.


in my opinion there are the the holy ones which are various types of good et's..and then you have the devil and hios angels whcih are the evil et's.

I like to call them extra- celestial.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by d60944
Upload it onlto www.youtube.com... or video.google.com... and then give us the link here.

You need to sign up to accounts with them to do so, but it isn't hard. You might need to compress your video. What format is it in at the moment?

Rob.


You know what is really indicative that the video from Medjugorje is exceptional and rare? I'll tell you...it is the fact that, even though the video was placed on a website where videos abound, and people who are videotaping constantly, and posting their videos on youtube, no one has posted anything that shows the same imagery as the one on the Medjugorje tape.

If this sort of effect happens as often as selfless claims that it does then we probably would have seen many other people on youtube presenting their black suns to let everyone know that it is really a common effect produced by the sun on digital video devices. Yet, no one has done this from all of those thousands of people that post on youtube. NO ONE has produced another video from among all those youtubers who use their cameras to tape just about everything. Makes me aware that the image of the sun as it appears on the video from Medjugorje is not common but actually a very rare happening. That website is more evidence that the video actually shows a miraculous event.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by selfless
so now hoping that you stop picking on me personaly skyway, let's get back on the thread subject...


Ok, so is there another way to put up a video besides youtube and google video? if not then i will try google video, how does that work?

please no more off subject shinanigans.


You are hilarious! You're the one that brought up the other eyeballs that you claim to have. Are you sure you don't have a fourth eye, and a fifth? Maybe you have a whole other head but it's invisible like your third eyeball.
Hilarious stuff!



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

Originally posted by The time lord
A lot of what happened in Jeruselem like in 70 AD was destroyed and maybe her tomb, but are we sure it was actullay Mary son of Jesus? Plus a lot of evidence was taken away when Arabs came along and frankly still does or gets ignored in that region because of conflic of interest. Its interesting and guess what I was brought up a Roman Chatholic so no bias from me that is why I am interested, but yet not convinced.


Perhaps you could consider visiting Medjugorje. Maybe you will be convinced when you have the kind of encounter with the Blessed Mother that others have had. If people with little or almost no faith can go there and return changed into devout people of faith. I tell you, my friend, one of the things that is most convincing about the autheniticity of what is taking place in Medjugorje and other apparition sites is the kind of people that are transformed.

I have seen some people that are Joe Sixpack types that were stunned and almost unable to speak after witnessing some of the miracles at apparition sites. You can see it in their faces and can't help noticing how they are hardly able to move for a while. The Divine can have that kind of effect on people...even believers...so imagine what it must be like for non-believers...and there have been plenty of those who have been converted after visiting Medjugorje. Maybe it would be worth the trip.


Oh no I am back.
I my self do not need to see this phonomenon to prove God exists as I have had plenty of things that with my relationship with God of the Bible that boarder Miracles and signs. For me its not an issue as you probably know my faith is secure. So I do not need to see all this with my own eyes I have seen things that God can only do not Mary her self.

Even the Devil can put up signs and astonish man kind. People will be decieved and people will give up their faith for this. What I am saying is that where is this Mary connection? Does it say it's Mary? Why assume it has anything to do with Mary? Even the Devil can appear as Mary if he wished. Even the Devil can stray you away from the doctrines of the Bible and say it's was currupted or misunderstood to take you away from truth. I just think since it contradicts the very fundimentals I have to question it. Its like STIGMATA it's a bit dubious but convicing. If people are gaining faith by this Mary apperision then I hope they open the Bible up and find out if it should be happening. Unless we are in this moment in time in the TRIBULATION period or the start of it.

It's good people have fallen for this and their faith has openned but I am hoping it's not a deception and a time will come when the world will be decieved with blaphamous signs and wonders that will rip away God's people and worship the anti-Christ. Be careful don't just go in head first, pray to Jesus as he was the one who died for us not Mary.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

Originally posted by selfless
so now hoping that you stop picking on me personaly skyway, let's get back on the thread subject...


Ok, so is there another way to put up a video besides youtube and google video? if not then i will try google video, how does that work?

please no more off subject shinanigans.


You are hilarious! You're the one that brought up the other eyeballs that you claim to have. Are you sure you don't have a fourth eye, and a fifth? Maybe you have a whole other head but it's invisible like your third eyeball.
Hilarious stuff!



You are still at it? well you're not a very nice person... i was offering to show you the video but now i think what is the point if he's just gonna try to be a jerk to me.


Ok let's break it down..

I have no beliefs that are from this planet get that throught your head... what i said was a read between the line kind of thing for a idealogical purpose. you don't have to understand it but please drop it already.... PLEASE drop it.


You must not like to be picked on for your religious beliefs so please don't pick on me for beliefs that you put on me your own self.....

this is out of hand... either stop it right now or you are put on ignore for good.

Now can we please be friends?

do you want to see the video of the black sun i have or not?



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:39 PM
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The third eye thing people are on about is more complex and not literal as it is described it has more to do with negative energy pointing towards some one or black magic. Call it myth or what ever but look into it may have more a comtemporary explanation that was once thought of a third eye. The other way is wish the Demon inside you to cause negative bad luck on the people you talk about. Its a bit like the Devil hearing you making your wish come true so you keep your faith on the dark side.


[edit on 23-11-2006 by The time lord]



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by TheSonOfMan
Ive herd this theory before..and i have trouble believing in it.

if your right ,then what is the prupose for all the other planets,solar systems,and galaxies? are you trying to say that earth is the only inhabitated planet in this big playground called the universe?


No, I am not say that this is the only inhabited planet. There may be others with life on them. All I am saying is that the creatures that are claiming to come from other planets are not really extraterrestrial but demons who are exploiting the possibility of life on other planets to deceive people into believing that's where they come from. Just because there may be life on other planets does not mean that is where these creatures, claiming to be aliens, came from.


why would "god" create such a big area ..and then have only us humans to praise his glory? im sure more races are out there that are far more advanced mentally and spiritually then us.


That may be. But one thing that is clear to me is that the demons that are posturing as aliens are not more advanced than us. They conduct themselves in a way that is quite depraved. This is not what one would see from a truly advanced race.


I think hell is a state of mind,becoing futher attached to god,being less spiritaul..but soon there will also be a physicall hell..which is gonna be the earth after natural and man made disasters occur between now and 2012.


Hell is both a state of mind and a place. It is a sphere of existence in which beings who have a hellish state of mind (evil minded) are gathered together. It is a cosmic equivalent of prisons where people who disregard the law are confined.


in my opinion there are the the holy ones which are various types of good et's..and then you have the devil and hios angels whcih are the evil et's.



My view is that ALL of the creatures who are claiming to be et's are demons. You may be confusing the holy angels with et's. Here is one telling difference...the holy angels never present themselves as et's, they never claim to come from other planets. The only ones who are claiming to be aliens, whether they pretend to be the so-called "good" aliens or the bad ones, are the demons. They only pretend to be good and bad ones to decieve people into thinking they are not working together against mankind. It's a form of good-cop bad-cop on a more sinister scale.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:45 PM
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please, can we stay on the subject of the thread please, this is turning into something really ugly...



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by selfless

Originally posted by d60944
What format is it in at the moment?
Rob.



Hmmm i don't know, maybe wmp? that's what it opens it with.

I don't get it, it's not like it's a rare thing to have the sun blacked out on a video... it always do this with crapy digital cameras...


Ok - go onto either of the sites I suggested and upload your video to there. So we then see. I asked on the Youtube comments thread for someone to post their own videos of the effect being normal. No-one has done anything yet. I don't think you need to do anything fancy to your video to upload it. I have uploaded to google video before and it's straightforward. Getting an account is free.

To create a google video account click here.

I personally know nothing about how a camera would produce this, and it seems more likely to me than not that it is just a quirk of photography. But it won't be settled until people who say it is normal start posting their own videos showing it.

Cheers.

[edit on 23-11-2006 by d60944]



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord

Oh no I am back.
I my self do not need to see this phonomenon to prove God exists as I have had plenty of things that with my relationship with God of the Bible that boarder Miracles and signs. For me its not an issue as you probably know my faith is secure. So I do not need to see all this with my own eyes I have seen things that God can only do not Mary her self.


I admire your great faith and devotion to the Lord.


Even the Devil can put up signs and astonish man kind. People will be decieved and people will give up their faith for this. What I am saying is that where is this Mary connection? Does it say it's Mary? Why assume it has anything to do with Mary? Even the Devil can appear as Mary if he wished. Even the Devil can stray you away from the doctrines of the Bible and say it's was currupted or misunderstood to take you away from truth. I just think since it contradicts the very fundimentals I have to question it. Its like STIGMATA it's a bit dubious but convicing. If people are gaining faith by this Mary apperision then I hope they open the Bible up and find out if it should be happening. Unless we are in this moment in time in the TRIBULATION period or the start of it.


I agree. The devil is always trying to deceive people and turn them away from God and His Holy Truth. I do not think that this is the case where the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin are concerned. She always renders glory to Jesus Christ and praises His name and encourages the same in those whom she appears to. She exhorts all to keep the commandments and pray to God, and to live the teachings of the Bible. She is doing and asking of us all of the things that any true servant of God would ask of us. To love our Creator -- our Father in Heaven, and to praise Jesus our Saviour and try our utmost to be like Him. She has helped many people to become better Christians, and brought others who were not Christian to conversion to Christianity.


It's good people have fallen for this and their faith has openned but I am hoping it's not a deception and a time will come when the world will be decieved with blaphamous signs and wonders that will rip away God's people and worship the anti-Christ. Be careful don't just go in head first, pray to Jesus as he was the one who died for us not Mary.


I most enthusiastically agree. Worship God -- our Heavenly Father, the Holy Spirit, and Jesus Christ our Saviour. This is also what the Blessed Virgin encourages. You see she, along with us, worships and glorifies God.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by The time lord
The third eye thing people are on about is more complex and not literal as it is described it has more to do with negative energy pointing towards some one or black magic. Call it myth or what ever but look into it may have more a comtemporary explanation that was once thought of a third eye. The other way is wish the Demon inside you to cause negative bad luck on the people you talk about. Its a bit like the Devil hearing you making your wish come true so you keep your faith on the dark side.
[edit on 23-11-2006 by The time lord]


I was only having a little fun with selfless. But I think that often, people who think they have opened their third eye are only learning how to use their own imagination a little more than they usually do. I think what they have developed, if anything, is their imagination instead of a third eye. They then delude themselves into thinking they can see auras and can peer into the future. All they are seeing is the products of their imagination.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:16 PM
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selfless,

I just couldn't resist putting you on a little bit, especially after you presented yourself as so skeptical regarding supernatural events in Medjugorje then claim that you have a third eye. A radical departure from the way you had been questioning the autheniticity of the event in the video.


do you want to see the video of the black sun i have or not?


By all means please post the video!



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

I was only having a little fun with selfless



No you were only insulting me and rediculing me.


you would think that someone who's as religious as your self would learn by now not to persecute others.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:20 PM
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yes the video is uploading as we speak but it's taking a lot of time...



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by selfless

Originally posted by SkyWay

I was only having a little fun with selfless



No you were only insulting me and rediculing me.


Isn't the third eye able to reveal to you when someone is kidding?
If it can't then it's not much good, is it?



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWay

Originally posted by selfless

Originally posted by SkyWay

I was only having a little fun with selfless



No you were only insulting me and rediculing me.


Isn't the third eye able to reveal to you when someone is kidding?
If it can't then it's not much good, is it?



oh don't worry i was just dissapointed by your rediculing and persecuting me especialy since you are religious and all the persecution you must have gone throught your self.


I don't find it funny but i don't find it offensive either. just emtpy words.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:36 PM
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There are a few things I must tend to on another website. So, must leave for a while. I shall return and hopefully, by then, sefless's video will be ready for viewing.




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