Originally posted by mclarenmp4
I agree with a lot of the sentiments in this thread, the guy was stupid & will be punished one way or another but I feel the issue here now is why
dickbinbush got banned.
Seems like some moderators have a personal agenda, perhaps if you want to have a cross polination of subjects related to one particular item then the
thread should be shared between sub forums. The race issue is the key here for me, whether he is a mason or not is also a sub issue, therefor it
caters for both secret societies & racial discrimination.
Why waste space creating 2 separate threads one about the racial conitations & one about his status as a mason when we can debate both issues in 1
thread.
Warn me if you like but like everything in life the people who have the power use it to further their own agendas. Screw your T&C's, dickbinbush had
some good points being made whether you agree with them or not.
This site used to be great at the start now it's turning into a PC haven & that goes against the grain of what this site used to be about.
Oh & intrepid, if you warned dickbinbush for going off topic then check the thread you refrenced him to comment on the racial aspect.
www.belowtopsecret.com...
2nd post by deny says that the real issue is that he is a 33rd degree mason. that's off topic & should be in this thread, did he recieve a warn for
it.... NO
Double standrds huh?
[edit on 21-11-2006 by mclarenmp4]
Dear god. Is this ATS Mutiny!?!??!?
Well we don't want a totalitarian staff suppressing our rights to express our selves but.. um.
Sorry about dickbinbush but honestly I agree that he challenged Intrepid, personally calling him out, hijacking the thread when it should have been
moved via u2u.. I personally think that he was rightfully banned. When I have been warned I never persisted to claim I was right.. the language and
attitude was obviously out of hand.
Double standards? This is not new for this user, if youve seen him around before..
Is the staff being to touchy about the topic? Yeah, I will agree with that but maybe it is fear of being seen as a racist. Better to be seen as an
over politically correct then address the issues some members rightfully feel. I think the staff just needs to be more sensitive to some of the
members feelings instead of the people who are concentrating on Richards personal case.. it is a broad and sensitive subject for more then one group
of people, this is a micro social problem that represents a macro social problem that in fact ought to be addressed on this thread. There was another
Richards thread and it deviated into the same argument.. if the people (how few or many) have such strong feelings then please don't insult, put
down, call them racist (this is not directed to mods but to everyone) it really is a real social problem.. white people are suffering severe built up
hostility, and sometimes it snaps like in Richards case.. why? Because it is taboo to talk about..
I am not saying feel sorry for the white man, I am saying that white people suffer racism to, and the points that some people make, including my self,
show that we DO take it personally we just can't express it because of social suppression. We are taught from kindergarten to be sorry for our fore
fathers mistakes. Every book I read in school, grade school till high school was about some kind of social racist problem where evil white people
torment poor colored people.. it is not fair to impose such feelings on people like that, no matter the past..
So view this case, not as a personal case for Richards but instead as a broad social problem facing our mixed nation and embrace the conversations
that follow, let it deviate into constructive conversation. People like binBush are obviously simply here to cause problems, but as far as anyone
else they are voicing their feelings and emotions and that should be encouraged.
Should a site like ATS expect anything less then that?
But for obvious reasons he shouldn't be mentioned anymore just for the sake of PR to non members, and that it
could put members in bad light. Either way, I think he should apologize to Masons for insulting the honor of the 33rd degree. It shouldn't be taken
away, but just because hes a big star and all (not really THAT big of a star but famous ya know) and should just apologize, take it like a man and be
done. Maybe buy the black man a dinner or something. I doubt he would want to masticate in the presence of Mr. Richards but ya never know, the two
could act like adults instead of children, though that might be asking to much..
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