Subliminal message in Jay-Z song, is it real or just religious propaganda?, page 1
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reply posted on 20-11-2006 @ 02:36 PM by dbates
My opinion? There are plenty of messed up things in his lyrics without the need to play it backwards. Just read the lyrics to his songs. Lots of cool stuff in there about killing people, doing drugs, running from the Po-lice, and slapping them women around cause they're nothing but "ho's". It's the usual thug life stuff.

This little sermon is as useful as a discussion on if the safety should be on when you hand your child a loaded gun. Why don't they point out the obvious? His lyrics are twisted already. All this backwards masking stuff is just a distraction from the actual issue of his lyrics and it's message.


Freaky coincidence but it's just propaganda.

[edit on 20-11-2006 by dbates]


reply posted on 20-11-2006 @ 02:48 PM by 7Pan7cho7
Originally posted by dbates
My opinion? There are plenty of messed up things in his lyrics without the need to play it backwards. Just
read the lyrics to his songs. Lots of cool stuff in there about killing people, doing drugs, running from the Po-lice, and slapping them women around cause they're nothing but "ho's". It's the usual thug life stuff.

This little sermon is as useful as a discussion on if the safety should be on when you hand your child a loaded gun. Why don't they point out the obvious? His lyrics are twisted already. All this backwards masking stuff is just a distraction from the actual issue of his lyrics and it's message.


Freaky coincidence but it's just propaganda.

[edit on 20-11-2006 by dbates]


Which is exactly why I stopped listening to rap when i saw that you couldn't find any songs that weren't about that. Now I listen to System Of A Down mostly, with some Rage Against The Machine, Rammstein, and Prodigy as well.

I realize that there are some twisted lyrics in rap, but I am just curious about this one.


reply posted on 20-11-2006 @ 02:51 PM by PuRe EnErGy
Originally posted by 7Pan7cho7
PuRe EnErGy

I don't worship Jesus, nor am I christian. I simply love. You should know that i agree with you on this, because i've said it before.

As far as me finding out for myself, I first need to know what song it is, then I can do it. That's why I was hoping that maybe someone would know what song this is, because I've seen priests/pastors/preachers or whatever you would call them do some pretty twisted things before. Like brainwash people into thinking that I'm evil simply because I'm not a christian and don't go to church. That doesn't mean that I don't listen to the words of the wise. I try to love everybody and everything, and it's getting easier and easier with every passing day. I've had people try and argue with me that I'm christian because of how i think and what i say. I'm not a christian because i don't worship jesus or a cross, but I do try to follow the examples set forth by many different people throughout history.

Sorry about that ranting, but yeah, if anybody can figure out this song, please tell me. Meanwhile i'll look for it myself and try to find it then reverse it, and put it on here somehow.


I tried to find out, but I can't get it to load because my inferior dialup internet keeps booting me off randomly every 5 or so minutes.. which is hardly enough time to load it from ebaums(sp?)...
and I Know, I was just posting that about jesus the man because people still think some aliens or hippy dude is gonna come save them .. and they can sit and eat potato chips..


reply posted on 20-11-2006 @ 02:55 PM by PuRe EnErGy
Originally posted by 7Pan7cho7
Originally posted by dbates
My opinion? There are plenty of messed up things in his lyrics without the need to play it backwards. Just
read the lyrics to his songs. Lots of cool stuff in there about killing people, doing drugs, running from the Po-lice, and slapping them women around cause they're nothing but "ho's". It's the usual thug life stuff.

This little sermon is as useful as a discussion on if the safety should be on when you hand your child a loaded gun. Why don't they point out the obvious? His lyrics are twisted already. All this backwards masking stuff is just a distraction from the actual issue of his lyrics and it's message.


Freaky coincidence but it's just propaganda.

[edit on 20-11-2006 by dbates]


Which is exactly why I stopped listening to rap when i saw that you couldn't find any songs that weren't about that. Now I listen to System Of A Down mostly, with some Rage Against The Machine, Rammstein, and Prodigy as well.

I realize that there are some twisted lyrics in rap, but I am just curious about this one.


Try Aesop Rock, Heiroglyphics, Binary Star, Jedi Mind Tricks is particularly dark, but their message is consistant and strong.
Aesop Rock is very 'different' but very intelligent..
also look for some Noah23 ... Benefit, ... or Killah Priest (as bad as that sounds) ..
They are what I call real musicians that actually use their brains... and are very talented.


reply posted on 20-11-2006 @ 08:18 PM by PuRe EnErGy
Originally posted by dbates
Well, most people only hear what's on Billboard magazine's top 40 and if you look at the rap section, it's mostly "thug life" rap. It would be nice if there were a way to promote better music from this genre, but I don't know of any.


The church is deadly against rap/hip-hop in most forms... especially when it depicts the reality that some people actually experience, because they can't accept anything except for 'love' or .. rather their version of it...
so of course they will put a 'OMG They SAID KILL JESUS' spin on it.. without explaining perhaps a good reason for saying it.
Jay-Z was a good friend of Biggies and Biggie was a good friend of Tupac... Tupac was a very influential and opinionated speaker/leader.
and I'm upset with that understanding of THUG LIFE....
If you didn't listen to Tupac which is where the term came from, and the same term they(thugs) all believe it to be now than there IS no point in listening to the music for exactly what it is.
THUG LIFE stands for
The
Hate
U
Gave

Little
infants
Frakks (Sure you get the point)
Everyone

and it will be the letter of the law until the day it stops...
Tupac really made other 'rappers' think about GOD in a realistic and practical manner.... u can see his influence in many that he worked with.
Even people he beefed with have no choice but to respect him now because he saw something exactly and predicted it step by step, even though some of his closest friends didn't believe him.
Theres a reason for all the bling bling, and murder, pussy rap.... you have to give an addict everything they want until they say, "no more!"... until they finally say themselves, "I have had enough, next!" How quickly have kids gotten sick of the "image?" People have to get things out of their system...
Tupac made people aware of things no one was aware of... as funny as it may sound, he brang it to everyones attention so we HAD to deal with it.... we had no choice at that point... with lines like "You got money for war but you can't feed the poor" and "Got a War on drugs so the po-lice can bother me"... since drugs are the only way to change your thinking .. (in their minds) .. its either the earths drugs or mans drugs... the war on drugs.
The only pharmacy man needs is in his brain, the hypothallamus(sp?)..
that even means food isn't necessary if the brain can produce the peptides the cells need...
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