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from Supernatural by Graham Hancock publisher Doubleday Canada
Could 'aliens' and 'spirits' be the same thing - or the same class of thing? And if so, what might this mean for our understanding of the human condition and the nature of reality? Could the realm from which UFO's appear - and then seem to disappear back into again 'between one blink of the eye and the next' - be the spirit world, as John Mack came increasingly to believe? More intriguingly, what are the chances of this being the same spirit world, with its well-charted supernatural geography and inhabitants, that shamans have entered and negotiated with by means of hallucinatory out-of-body journeys since time immemorial?
The idea seems absurd by the tenets of Western science, which holds all spirit worlds to be illusory of the contents of our own minds. Still, I couldn't help being intrigued by the close parallels I'd found between the piercings and inexplicable surgical procedures supposedly carried out on shamans by spirits, and the same sorts of procedures experienced by UFO abductees at the hands of aliens. I began to re-examine ethnographic studies of shamanism side by side with casebooks of UFO abductee reports to see if there were other such similarities. Gradually I became fascinated and immersed - for there seemed not just to be similarities here but a whole network of closely interwoven and interdependent connections so intricate and extensive that they could not possibly have arisen by chance.
Originally posted by SwingingMonkey
Thought-provocing stuff. I think perhaps aliens are looking over us, we are to them what animals are to us.
Does anyone else ever get the intuitive feeling that perhaps they have lived before as the same person and in the same life, etc? Is time going around in circles? are these aliens from a distant future? - distorting our time?
Imagine if the governments of the world discovered the UFO's were from our future. Would this be more shocking than people from another planet? There's a question for you.
[edit on 20-11-2006 by SwingingMonkey]
So try and open the Bible once more it has more action than LOTR Trilogy.
...they are able to assume the shapes best used to suit their purposes, best describes my point that we see what we want to see, and this is why their form has changed through the ages.
What purpose would a spiritual entity have in maneuvering a physical craft around? Whether it be angel or demon,I don't see its necessity in having a physical craft.How would an ethereal beng even be able to pilot a physical craft?
I dont think there's any question that we're not dealing with typical reality when it comes to UFOs/aliens. And after all these years, there is still NO tangible undeniable proof of the existance of such things. Try as people might, there just isnt any, depite the best intentions of people looking for answers.
Originally posted by masqua
Good point. What are they doing flying around in airborne vehicles?
Perhaps it's because we are now accustomed to the idea of aircraft? If something is seen in the air, we suppose they must be vehicles, because, in our modern society, that's what makes sense. Has there ever been any undeniable proof of such vehicles? Roswell crash? Bits and pieces of wreckage? Actual proof? Nope...none at all...and if there
is, it has been carefully hidden by the governments.
But, let me ask you this...if in all the time that humans have been walking around, lifting rocks and exploring nooks and crannies on this planet, why is Roswell the only really talked about incident? In the hundreds and thousands of years we've been here, why haven't we come across other clues?
[/THE CHINESE ROSWELL
Date & Location: 10,000 BC Byan-Kara-Ula mountains China
Tangibile Evidence: Multi-Witness, Physical Evidence (The skeletons, and the discs), Local legend of a tribe called the dropas who "fell from the sky", Living tribe found matching the Dropas description and history.
Tangibilty index: 3.20 (64%)
It's been called "The Chinese Roswell". A story of a crashed spacecraft over 12,000 years ago in a remote mountain area of China. An expedition led by archeologist Chi Pu-Tei found a number of strange skeletons, entombed. The skeletons had abnormally large heads, and proportionally small frail frames for bodies. Also found were 716 stone discs with a spiral groove in each starting at the rim and leading to a hole in the center.
In the hundreds and thousands of years we've been here, why haven't we come across other clues?
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Well what about this one?