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Sears Tower Terrorists were arrested at a Masonic Lodge

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posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 11:44 AM
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Hello folks,

I recently found the following rather extraordinary video from CNN posted on Youtube. In it is reports on the recent foiled atempt by terrorists to destroy Chicago's Sears Tower and other buildings. The extraordinary thing is that the suspects were arrested at a Masonic Lodge and the ringleader Narseal Batiste, is described as a masonic 'elder' at that lodge. The most extraordinary thing is that the suspect's father (heavily disguised with a comical woolly beard, dark glasses and a hat) seems to be saying that he son was given everything he wanted in order to carry out his plan. This video and his comments quite clearly link freemasonry with international terrorist activities...

This merits discussion and comment, I find this extraordinary...



www.youtube.com...

edition.cnn.com...




posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 11:48 AM
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i have never heard of ANYONE refered to as an "elder" in a masonic lodge of then the old guys at our lodges when we call em "old" lol. this is a might strange. anyone know if he was the only mason or not?

[edit on 19-11-2006 by umwolves123]



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 11:51 AM
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A hoax?

Are you serious?
It happened. It was on the news....

What a strange thing for you to say....

[edit on 19-11-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate

A hoax?

Are you serious?
It happened. It was on the news....

What a strange thing for you to say....

[edit on 19-11-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]


Ya i hadn't finished watching the whole thing yet that's why....but now that i have i retract my previous statement as you can see. i dont think it was a hoax at all. i think it's a stain on the fabric of our masonic comunity personally.



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 12:04 PM
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There was a time when I wanted to be a Mason but I started finding out about stuff like this and the JFK assassination and then listening to Alex Jones and it seemed to me that there's something very fishy going on behind the scenes.. I am an honest seeker but what I have heard has taken me off that particular path. I think this stuff keeps the good guys away and encourages the bad and hateful elements of society who have an axe to grind, I don't know... I'm not sure if such people should be trusted with the stewardship of our world... what's the answer?



[edit on 19-11-2006 by Edelweiss Pirate]



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 12:22 PM
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i'm not sure i understood exactly what you were trying to say but what i think i got from it is that masonry wasnt for you.

And that's ok it's not for everyone. i became a mason because i used to be a US Marine and in the marines we have a brotherhood. any marine i meet and i are instantly best friends, in the freemasons i descovered the exact same feeling of brotherhood i felt when i was in the corps. but 10 fold.

All the bad publicity we recieve as masons isnt' all true. the JFK stuff, well noone REALLY knows for sure what really happened, all we have are theory's. This is bad publicity yes but in all reality the guy just happened to belong to the masons and they were hiding there because he believed they would hide him...However those days are LONG gone. masonry doesnt do that crap anymore. it's about taking good people and making them better people. not hiding #ty members who commit hanus crimes. Then we'd be catholics.



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 12:32 PM
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More information on the 'Seas of David', terror group.

www.youtube.com...




[edit on 19-11-2006 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 12:46 PM
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I would like to ask EP the following two questions, and no doubt I will have more when I have seen the video.

1. How come no other media channel, including conspiracy and anti-establishment channels, have picked up on this? Even the link you gave to CNN makes no reference to freemasonry. Do a search on 'Narseal Batiste Freemason' and nothing will come up. The best I could find is from TPMuckraker "they've got muck, we've got rakes" who say:


The ragtag, kooky group, who all belong to a sect "that mixes Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, Freemasonry, Gnosticism and Taoism," ...


which clearly excludes freemasonry.

2. Why do you think freemasonry would be involved in an Al-Qaeda plot when freemasonry itself is a target of Al-Qaeda?

news.bbc.co.uk...



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust
More information on the 'Seas of David', terror group.

Thanks INWT - it's clear that this group has nothing whatsoever to do with regular freemasonry, and is influenced for the most part by the teachings of the Moorish Science Temple of America.



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 02:15 PM
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i havent seen the vid yet, as my computer takes abit longer to download video, but i have some questions and comments.

First being, what was the date of this supposed attack and the resulting arrests?

you found this video on Youtube, did you find it in CCN's video archives? most news networks maintain huge video libraries of their reports.

Those are my questions, now my comment.

CNN has been known to tell lies.. as all cable news networks have at one time or another... and CNN reported outright falsehoods about the situation in Iraq between "gulf 1" and "gulf 2", in an arrangement with Hussain in order to their bagdahd offices open

Fox news is a rampantly republican news agency and they have also spread falsehood by way of their spin-doctors who specialise in making every report on the republican party look as favorable as possible.

So you cant expect any news agency to tell the truth, or atleast the whole truth.. and even if they tell you whats happening.. you cant expect them to give you the whole story on the whys and hows. Cable news exists for 2 reasons.. ratings.. and to air mutual fund commercials.

NOW, that all having been said, i will watch this video, and possibly the others posted there, and i may make further comments, but for now i leave you with this.

Belive none of what you read, only some of what you see... and dont trust cable news.. they too have an agenda...

But Keith Olberman is cool, i dare say he is the Edward R. Morrows of the new century "Good night, and good luck"


25 minutes later!

Ok having seen the video, i have more question & comments...

I live about an hour west of miami, and i can tell you.. people down here talk about this kind of stuff, and i never heard anyone mention it.

and though i tend not to trust cable news, i do watch it.. and i never heard word one about it on MSNbc, which is my prefered cable news channel. And as a MSNbc veiwer i can tell you.. they dont let things like this go with just one report.. they will cover it on more then one show, and they will do followups... and followups.. and followups.

I have to think, that this was a pre-emptive move on the part of the FBI, in attempt to save a few lives because they dropped the ball on 9/11.. i dont think it was a set up, i think they just felt that they needed to move on it, but then found that there really wasnt anything to move on... and news shows only report on guilt.. and rarely on innocence, so it was never broadcast as a false alarm

Remember those 11 fellas from the UK that were rounded up on a suspected bombing plot? they were later released because the evidence showed that there was no terror plot by these men.. the proof of their innocence got all of 1 page of coverage by the new york times, and then nothing more was said about it

[edit on 19-11-2006 by Becon of Light]



posted on Nov, 19 2006 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Trinityman

Thanks INWT - it's clear that this group has nothing whatsoever to do with regular freemasonry, and is influenced for the most part by the teachings of the Moorish Science Temple of America.


Indeed. The Moorish Science Temple is not Masonic, and, contrary to what EP would have everyone to believe, no one was arrested in a Masonic Lodge, nor did the individuals in question have anything to do with Freemasonry.



[edit on 19-11-2006 by Masonic Light]



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 08:00 AM
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As the above post stated plus if I recall the masonic temple in that area is no where near the area the members were picked up. I think there was some members picked up in one place and some in another area neither being a Masonic temple or near it.

I will try to get a letter from the GM at the temple to post.



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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So when the masons are caught redhanded being involved in terrorist activities they just pretend somehow the news wasn't real, or it didn't even happen at all....

And they post that here on this forum.

You Masons just don't have the least ounce of respect for us do you..

(cue personal attack by Masonic lite who will then pretend I don't even know who the masons are and who will then rewrite masonic history and actually announce that he is the all knowing one and will proceed to rewrite reality itself.... While his brothers all chorus their aggreement to the litany of fabrications..

It's an insult to us that they expect us to believe this. I had expected something a little more sophisticated to be honest... (now I expect the mods will join in the bashing)

How can you lie so.... I thank God I never joined your group when the opportunity arose..

Ps in reply to masonic lite... Why are the masons involved in terrorist activities? I saw it, on CNN.....



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 10:16 AM
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Hey not only do I believe this to be true (the accusations), but I'm convinced that there has to be an Israel connection somewhere also. There just has to be.

As has been said on this site in past by a few, the four corners of the US need to be marked by occult sacrifices of the four major elements. We had water in NO, we had air in NYC, we will have fire somewhere in the Northern US and then I expect an earthquake on the coast. The four directions covered by the cult and the US's fate is sealed.



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 10:43 AM
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I think that we should thank God that the attack never happened and was foiled by the forces for good out there...

They are on the run, backpedaling and deperately trying to hold back the forces for good which will wash the ancient sickness from the earth....

Times are a-changing, for the better, the truth is finally out there.



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Edelweiss Pirate


So when the masons are caught redhanded being involved in terrorist activities they just pretend somehow the news wasn't real, or it didn't even happen at all....


What Masons? None of them were Masons, they were members of the Moorish Science Temple, a rogue branch of the Black Muslims.


You Masons just don't have the least ounce of respect for us do you..


For you, not the least, as you've proven yourself time and time again on here to be a troll.



How can you lie so.... I thank God I never joined your group when the opportunity arose..


Right.

The wikipedia article on Narseal Batiste, who is not now nor has ever been a Freemason, is located here



[edit on 20-11-2006 by Masonic Light]



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by umwolves123
i have never heard of ANYONE refered to as an "elder" in a masonic lodge of then the old guys at our lodges when we call em "old" lol. this is a might strange. anyone know if he was the only mason or not?


The CNN reporter had confused a Lodge of Moorish Science with a Masonic Lodge. There are no elders in Masonic Lodges, but apparently this gut was an elder in a rogue Islamic cult that sometimes uses Masonic symbolism, along with symbolism from other mystical systems.



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 12:35 PM
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Oh so that's the lie you've come up with...

Easy to rewrite history when you're 'inner party' isn't it?

It's all perfectly clear to me, and I expect it is to those with eyes to see (no Lite, don't use this to paint me as some extremist Catholic like you've done before, then attempt to discredit me...I can see through that side of your silly monkey show too)



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 12:47 PM
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Edelweiss, please be respectful of other members including masons. You may not agree with their group, but your rantings make intelligent conversation a lot less pleasant.



posted on Nov, 20 2006 @ 12:51 PM
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this had been covered the day this happend on ATS

It turned out he wasn't actually a Mason at all, and would be considered "irregular" because he was not apart of a real lodge.



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