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Originally posted by Dreamstone
Wait, Chemical and Bilogical weapons can't cause mass deaths? Go tell that to the families of those killed by Saddams use of WMDs That statement is a fallacy and I would hope that you, as a former soldier, would know it.

Its highly unlikely Saddam destroyed all of his WMDs. They were the only leverage he had against Iran, a country that would have loved to invade Iraq. He would not have thrown them away so quickly.

Originally posted by Dreamstone
Wait, Chemical and Bilogical weapons can't cause mass deaths? Remember, I trained in them. They are highly specific. Highly dangerous to place/employ. They only have so much reach - unless it is something like ebola or AIDS, which are spread through a host. But technically speaking, as I said, they are not WMD. You can look into it for yourself if you do not trust me. I have no reason to mislead you. It just galls me to no end the way in which the Bush administration has twisted terms to suit their goals. To instill fear in the population. That is why, as Wolfowitz explained they termed it that way.


This one really kills me. Sorry, Dreamstone, but I fear you have yet to see the evidence on this. The story about Saddam gassing the kurds was completely twisted around as a pre-Gulf war PR strategy. The actual scenario was Saddam's forces were fighting the Iranians at Halajba. Both Iraq and Iran were using chemical weapons. Saddam was using that which we supplied him with and Iran was using mustard gas. Field studies have proven that it was, in fact, the mustard gas used by the Iranians that actually killed most of the people in that village. It was simply used to make Saddam look like a monster - which he was. But, frankly, the Iranian who was in charge of gassing the Iraqis was just as evil. And so is any American who is guilty of making/using gas. And while I'm on that issue, I have to say, right before 9-11 happened, it came to light the our government was found to be in contravention of the chem/bio warfare treaty we had signed. Yes, we got caught with our pants down still making them and doing the research. Some things never change.

Go tell that to the families of those killed by Saddams use of WMDs That statement is a fallacy and I would hope that you, as a former soldier, would know it.
As a former soldier I know the value of propaganda and how easy it is to brainwash weak-minded people. All it takes is zoning in on their natural hatreds. Piece of cake.


Its highly unlikely Saddam destroyed all of his WMDs. They were the only leverage he had against Iran, a country that would have loved to invade Iraq. He would not have thrown them away so quickly. Before the war I feared he still had some stuff hidden, but in light of what has and has not developed, I believe he concentrated on preparing for guerrilla warfare, which has been profoundly effective. Saddam was/is no dummy. More like a wily, devil-worshipping snake. I truly believe that in the latter days of his reign, Saddam's most potent weapon was THE BLUFF. He had so many people believing he was gonna gas the troops in Baghdad.. He had everybody snowed. And ya know what guys, he's proven he doesn't need weapons of mass destruction, afterall.

Originally posted by Dreamstone
Yet again Billybob you miss the point entirely. Ever heard of the Iran-Iraq war? Thought so.

We are the worlds policeman because thatwas the path we have chosen. As the worlds only megapower, we decide to help other countries instead of conquering them. And Iraq is Not conquering, so hush your liberal lips. We do what we do out of persoanl interest, and sometimes that interest is humanitarian. That's what it boils down to.

Originally posted by Dreamstone
I. But I will defend him because he is the best man for the job.

I think that if people can make meth labs in a bathtub, they can make WMDs in a trailer.

Originally posted by Dreamstone
Meth, like crack is the invention of people who desire more money, pure and simple.

Originally posted by Dreamstone
I like bush, and as one with a checkered past, know that I should be the last to judge.

Bush has a likeable enough personality. That's not the problem. He's a puppet, the face of the controllers. I don't care, personally, how much coke he sniffed or how much booze he drank. Unless, of course, he got into trouble and then got out of it with the help of Poppy Bush. High likelyhood.

I agree with his policies, I agree with his political party, and I like the man himself.

You like him. You like the Republicans. That's fine, but you have a built-in bias. I know this because before 2001 I was a lifelong Republican, and far more partisan. Fire-breathing, would be a good way of putting it. Try and be a little more open-minded. It will serve you well in the long-run. The Republicans have bent over for Bush. They've also done what I feared. They've gone mad with power. That is not good for anyone other than the very richest among us. Tell me, are you in the top 10% of wage-earners?


Has he screwed up? Yes, and so have I, far worse than he has in all likelihood.
You are not the president of the United States.


Is he part of a Global conspiracy, a coup? I don't know about such things to say.
He's nothing but a puppet for the controllers. The ONLY reason he's president is because of who his father is. He has an intellect the size of a new pea.

But I will defend him because he is the best man for the job.
Why? He doesn't even read. He has no clue what is really going on. He has admitted this. His handlers handle him. That should scare everybody.


Wicked? I think not.
That's because you like him. I had to come to my senses finally and accept that his father, George H.W. Bush has been involved in much wickedness. He was my Commander-In-Chief during the Gulf war. How hard can it be to make you see the truth if I can acknowledge that truth?

The only wickedness here exists in the hearts of those small minded individuals who focus on one man and blame him for all of society's ills, ills that began and grew long before he ever took his oath.

Klinton is just as wicked as Bush. They both work for the same interests. If you do not believe that, than you have a lot of research to do. If you're willing to see the truth.


The events that unfold today have taken decades to pan out, and no one can prepare themselves, or their country, for what unfolds.

I think that if people can make meth labs in a bathtub, they can make WMDs in a trailer.
And this is because of your extensive experience with these types of weapons?

Making biological weapons is difficult, but crude ones can be produced with relative ease.
And what experience informs your opinion?

Same with chemical. This is what Saddam did. I agree with you ECK, Saddam was one smooth bitster, smooth enough to make people think he never had WMDs at all.
Sorry Buddy. There is NO truth to support your claim. NONE. NADA.