posted on Nov, 14 2003 @ 05:51 PM
Why am I so angry Review the thread
did I indulge in name calling not untill I was missquoted
And told how to think...No
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By Joshua: AchesonGroup is yet another non thinker
Who loves to repeat what hes told
By Idiots An Manipulators of Truth
Which is what I said not Joshua !!
lets examine the statement to which I was refering
They do not want to be in Iraq or Afghanistan. They certainly don't want to go to die in Syria or Iran. They want to be at home, safe, with their
families, where they belong.
How does he Know ? A BS Statement
They know that most of the world opposes their presence in Iraq. They are doing their duty in the most difficult of circumstances
Did someone Poll the planet ? another B S statement
There was no legal or moral justification for attacking and occupying Iraq. The propaganda used to raise false support for the aggression was a flimsy
patchwork of lies and distortions. Attacking Iraq and Afghanistan has made them both much, much worse places to live.
This is an outright Lie..........yes I can argue this in detail
If need be to evevate your understanding
Too many have died on both sides, for lies and for oil and for Israel
I agree with this statement...but
The best way to propagate a lie is to hide it amoung truths
Too many have died from the hatred that all stems from the illegal occupation of Palestine and US imperialism. That hatred gave birth to the
desperation of the terrorist. The desperate and deplorable acts of the terrorist have been used as an excuse to attack oilcountries that oppose
Israel.
I Agree and have stated the same
It is easy for armchair warmongers to shout their support for the criminal bloodshed without any understanding of the suffering of the victims and
their families on both sides.
War is no Fun for anyone but sometimes necessary
The ability to comprehend this does not make one criminal
They think their blind ignorance makes them patriots.
Nonsence ..Who is They ? Ignorance of What ?
Cheering as your countrymen are sent to die is not patriotism
I agree
Like parrots these brainwashed fools repeat the nonsensical propaganda-soundbytes of oilfunded puppets like Bush. They use the same ridiculous,
dramatic, simplistic, childish and misleading phrases like "War on Terror". And Axis of Evil".
Media Hype I Agree...
War on terror? The so-called "War on Terror" has elevated the threat of terrorism to unprecedented levels. There are more terrorists than ever
before. They are now more furious, better funded, better peopled and more determined than ever before.
Threat levels are elevated thats the nature of conflict
More terrorists than before ? Are you counting ?
More furious..How would you Know ?
Better funded ..again how would you know
Better peopled...ect ...pure speculation
Axis of Evil? The threat from the "Axis of Evil" was created almost exclusively by the US government. The US government has funded and armed
Afghanistan terrorists. They have armed and funded Iraq; Iran; Syria; and many others.
Axis of evil I agree
Afghanistan terrorists ???????Must be a soviet
They have armed and funded Iraq; Iran; Syria; and many others....... an inacurate statement
The United States government STILL helps to fund and arm Saudi Arabia - the so-called "Kernel of Evil" - according to the US government. Saudi is
the homeland of Osama bin Laden. Most September-11 terrorists were Saudi. Saudi is the spiritual heart of Al Qaida.
I totally agree and its wrong.
Yet Afghanistan was attacked for the Centgas Caspian Sea oil pipeline. Then Iraq, with no links to terrorism whatsoever, was attacked for their oil.
Now terrorists are flooding into Iraq, eager to kill Americans. Still more terrorism, thanks to the "war on terror."
Afghanistan was attacked for oil ?? that BS
Then Iraq, with no links to terrorism whatsoever, was attacked for their oil..??
If there is a statement her that made me Flip this is IT !!!!this is the most atrocious Lie ..If you believe this
I have aSerious Problem with your logic
They lied to us about September 11. They lied to us about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. They will lie to us about attacking Syria and Iran and
others.
What was the Lie you speak of ???
And now you presume to know the future
perhaps you do?
Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians have died as a result of attacking Afghanistan and Iraq (together with a decade of sanctions and bombing
of Iraqi civilians). Little wonder that Iraqis do not want to be "freed" by the United States military. They do not want to live under an illegal
foreign occupation. They do not want the US oilgovernment to monopolize their oil.
This is a classic line spouted by those who wish to maintain the the anti war stance they dont want freedom....this is an obvious lie !
It insinuates that the only reason were there is Oil
while true in part our purpose is not to monopolize.. its to protect ourselves and our intrests
It's not just foreign innocent people that are dying. (They do not count in politics or the media because their deaths cannot be used for
propaganda... 3000 on September 11: Tens of thousands in Afghanistan.)
True ...
Our troops are dying. Our civilians have died and will continue to die in terrorist attacks born of US & Israeli aggression
If it was phrased ..born of US support for Isreali aggression i would agree
The United States government doesn't want to send any more Americans to their deaths because it's bad for propaganda. Instead they want to send more
British, Italian and other men to fight America's wars for her.
The US wants the World to do its part as it should
If you want to be patriotic then don't stand for the lies and corruption that have become institutionalized within the Western establishent
I agree ...
Don't let the world's biggest criminals get away with it just because their crimes are so immense or because they occupy prominent positions. They
are subject to law and justice and humanity like everybody else.
All Leaders Are criminals ..says the opposition Party
If you want to support the troops then help to bring them safely home to their families, where they belong.
They are a tool of government ..they belong where their sent.
Don't stand by while more people die for a lie.
What Lie ?
I still like Joshuas' response
He says what many feel
In a way I admire that
PS if Mojom
corrects his misquotes
and moderates his delivery
I will retract my statements
[Edited on 14-11-2003 by straterx]