Putin does it again!!! (poisoned spy), page 9
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reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 04:06 AM by zeed85
Originally posted by seattlelaw


And if security agencies were not involved there would not be multiple stories out there. Disinfo is the imprimatur of "intelligence" agencies.


There are multiple stories out there because of this person being a known ex intel member of a country that excites the media allowing them to then over play the story and sell more newspapers.Don`t forget this has come at the opening of the new bond movie.Good time to sell newspaper`s.People love a russia spy story.

Disinfo is generated by the media speculating on possible scenario`s, the intel community dosn`t need to put out false info, the media is capable of this solely.The no comment/we do not discuss matter concerning the security services activites etc etc etc then allows the media to writing whatever they want.

If Putin wanted this guy dead he would have been robbed and stabbed to death or his car crash or he would have been found in some woods with his wrist slashed or hanging in a tree.








The upshot is that Russia, having attempted to convert herself politically thanks to an insightful leader, was abandoned by the US which first coerced the changes. This is not much different from what we did in Iraq with our limited troop commitment and focus on the oil ministry. Anarchy was a foregone conclusion and it helps (or at least they thought it would) the present administration in perpetuating the terrorism myth which swayed the public towards accepting an unnecessary and costly war.


Russia is led by an ex kgb/fsb nutter not an insightful leader.Putin uses the same method as business you have one public side that people can see and another working behind the scenes.He`s a past master of this.

America works slightly different they openly try to change things but try to defend there actions using the media with disinfo and lies.Russia`s Iraqi isn`t as public as America`s.They both use completely different tactics.Putin is a sneaky, slimey spook and runs the country the same.They had to openly change but that was before Putin, once the countries politicians decided communisum was better for them since the cold war. Putin was put back into power to run similar to the cold days but without openly closing the country down.


Russia likely needs a strongman like Saddam (Putin? - maybe) to control the worst of the worst in a corrupt system. Dubya would like nothing better than to be that strongman for us here in the good old US of A. He said so himself when he was first innaugurated in 2000. He believes he is the chosen one. God help us.


Putin`s inherited the corruption caused when comm fell.That system was corrupt to the benifit of the politicians, now it`s been replaced by mafia business.Putin dosn`t care as much about that he`s trying to keep control of the state as a whole since the people have tasted a different kind of world.If he could internationally get away with mass control and put the old ways back he would in an instant,but since thats not an option other methods will do slowly but eventually succeed.

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reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 07:50 AM by Hellmutt
Looks like Litvinenko might get a muslim funeral. Now that was a surprise (at least it was for me). According to his father this was his last wish.


MosNews: Poisoned Former Agent Litvinenko Asked for Muslim Burial — Father

04.12.2006



Alexander Litvinenko, the former Russian intelligence agent poisoned in London, requested before his death that he be buried according to Muslim tradition, his father said in an interview for the Kommersant daily newspaper published Monday. The former agent and critic of the Kremlin expressed the wish as he lay dying in his father’s arms, Valter Litvinenko said.

“He said I want to be buried according to Islamic tradition. I said okay son. It will be as you wish. We already have one Muslim in our family.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 08:46 AM by zeed85
He wanted to cause headlines all the way to the grave.There`s also news today that he was planning to sell secrets unless he was paid not to.It`s a pity nobody can comment on this guys mental state before he was poisioned.

Extreme Muslims are well know to use suicide missions to further the cause there fighting.If he gets a muslim burial would further prove this guy killed himself.

His brother in law is a Muslim so it is possible he has seen Putins actions in chechnya from the otherside.He has had contact with Muslim rebels from there possible via his brother which has led him to take extreme action against Putin.

He didn`t give any secrets away on his death bed.The media would have jumped at the chance to publish either the secrets or publish the fact there were secrets but the govt have under the official secrets act prevented there telling.

That would prove this guy died for what he knew.

I very much doubt this guy new anything of any importence than what is already been disclosed for years.We all no major govts torture,assinate etc etc etc.Proving it dosn`t really matter.You cannot putmajor world leaders in prison.The UN arn`t donna send anybody to arrest the leader of a nuclear power.You think Bush gonna fight Putin just for a few no marks.They ain`t gonna start a world war over that anymore than Putin gonna because of US actions in Iraq.

No this guy killed himself to put Putin out in the open and get as much info generated by the media interest in the hope of damaging Putin.



reply posted on 4-12-2006 @ 09:06 AM by zeed85
Here is an example of the crap that is around.

www.kommersant.com...

It states that you can make it at home or that it is available to purchase freely in the US from united nuclear.
There web sites states that they sell it in quantitys to small to be a danger.The amount they sell is to small to see by the naked eye.All there isotopes are made to order in a Nuclear reactor in Tenessee.

www.unitednuclear.com...

If he was killed it is more likely he died because he possessed enough to be a danger to either the Russia govt or any other govt for that matter.

It is possible he didn`t kill himself, but there are so many possiblities and we will probably never no the truth especially if Britains secret service knew and allowed Putins men to act in this country.He could have been a threat to this country or we agreed he was a threat in general or we were just being friendly to Putin.Maybe he allows our services to act in his country to rid threats to Britain.

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reply posted on 5-12-2006 @ 04:23 PM by Hellmutt
Three Russians who met Litvinenko on the day he was poisoned was at this stadium and watched a football match between Arsenal and CSKA Moscow.


Traces of radiation found at Arsenal's Emirates stadium


Three Russian men who met with Litvinenko at a central London hotel on November 1, the day he fell ill and three weeks before he eventually died, also watched a football match between London club Arsenal and CSKA Moscow at the Emirates Stadium, the Russian newspaper Kommersant said earlier this month.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.



reply posted on 5-12-2006 @ 06:55 PM by Hellmutt
Originally posted by makeitso

'I can blackmail them. We can make money

'He told me he was going to blackmail or sell sensitive information about all kinds of powerful people including oligarchs, corrupt officials and sources in the Kremlin,' she said. 'He mentioned a figure of £10,000 they would pay each time to stop him broadcasting these FSB documents. Litvinenko was short of money and was adamant that he could obtain any files he wanted.'

Litvinenko proved he had sources in the heart of the Russian security services by producing what he said was a 100-page confidential FSB report from 2005 and forwarding it to Svetlichnaja, a politics student at the University of Westminster.

Norwegian media is reporting that Svetlichnaja has some mysterious ties with a Russian company "Russian Investors". Her story about "Litvinenko blackmailing powerful people" is most likely false. She is probably an agent.

Source ( in Norwegian...)

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reply posted on 6-12-2006 @ 08:26 PM by Hellmutt
Originally posted by Hellmutt

Source ( in Norwegian...)


Now there's an english version of this article. Here:

Odd links in Litvinenko smear (in english...)
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