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Putin does it again!!! (poisoned spy)

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posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 04:40 PM
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I like their use of the word "Allegedly". There is nothing alleged about his poisoning, it happened!
Who did it is another matter.




posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:06 PM
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BBC just announced he's dead.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Fang

BBC just announced he's dead.

Oh no! I just saw the headline myself.


R.I.P



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 06:19 PM
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Yep, here's a link to the CNN article.

And the BBC one.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 10:02 PM
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Litvinenko made a final interview just hours before he died.


Times Online: 'The bastards got me, they won't get us all'

November 24, 2006



Audio: my friend Alexander, by Andrei Nekrasov



“I want to survive, just to show them,” Alexander Litvinenko said in an exclusive interview given just hours before he died.

“The bastards got me,” he whispered. “But they won’t get everybody.”

Moments after he saw his friend pass away, Mr Nekrasov said: “I have been through a few things in Russia and Chechnya, but this is one of the most horrible crimes I have witnessed in my my life.” “It was sadistic, slow murder. It was perpetrated by somebody incredibly cruel, incredibly heartless. It had no meaning whatsover.”

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

They still don't know what poison it was.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 10:58 PM
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With everybody having pity and feeling sorry for this guy, I wonder what good he has done exactly.

He is said to have spilled some embarassing secrets about dubious Russian dealings. But it is not like he is the first defector/ex-spy/soldier to have done such thing. On many occasions defectors have told outrageous lies to discredit or to embarass Soviet Union or Russia, and on most occasions they were proven to be false. It's natural for a disgruntled defectors to want to put-down the country they ran from. There is no proof that the stuff this guy told to journalists was true.

I am not saying it wasn't, or that he wasn't killed by Russian sources. But untill there is actual evidence (even that he was assassinated), the media shouldn't be blaming anyone. ATS though is a good input for these rumors. But again there is just too little information on this guy or who he was involved with. Plus- I am sure they had to find something about his condition or what caused it in the hospital. Everyone is watching this guy, and if there is any evidence- it's right in front of them.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 12:35 AM
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To me, this just doesnt sound logical.

Why would you kill someone because they had information.. yet leave them alive for hours on end to talk?
If your tyring to hide the fact you killed someone 'else' why would you kill this man in such unique and rare circumstances? how many people have such an unknown radioactive drug that cannot be detected by anyone and kills the patient?

If It was indeed the Russian govenrment, why make it so obvious that it was a state funded assination?
Wouldnt you expect him to have an 'accident' in his automobile one night?

Atleast that way, there's plausable 'DOUBTS' as to wether he was knocked off, or the result of an accident.

Being he was poisoned, after recieving sensistive information and died of an UKNOWN factor.. it is to obvious..

I dont think the Russian govenrment would be that careless in assasinating someone who was implicating them for another murder.

getting such a drug into someone is difficult, especially if they are cautious of whats going on around them.

Its not like someone can walk up with a bottle of coke and go
"here drink this, dont mind the odd taste! "

If the russian government could get someone close enough to poison him, surely they could of just done to him what they did the journalist who was shot in her apartment complex, least that way he isnt talking.

Im not saying the Ruskies DIDNt do it..
but nothing is making sense.

[edit on 24-11-2006 by Agit8dChop]



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 02:42 AM
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It's sad but his death and resulting autopsy are likely to result in a clearer idea as to what he was actually poisoned with. There is little doubt that he was poisoned and I think we can dismiss any notion that this was an accident. His symptoms had a range of experts baffled, so I think we can dismiss household chemicals etc. Who did it? We may never know for sure. It would seem that this wasn't simply an execution but a cruel and very public statement.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 08:35 AM
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Good points, Agit8dChop.

Was he given a slow-acting poison so he would talk?



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
getting such a drug into someone is difficult, especially if they are cautious of whats going on around them.

Its not like someone can walk up with a bottle of coke and go
"here drink this, dont mind the odd taste! "

[edit on 24-11-2006 by Agit8dChop]


His friend said the other day that apparently they weren't careful enough, they weren't looking over their shoulders like they should have been.

Also Thallium is said to be colourless, odourless & tasteless.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 10:09 AM
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But the doctors didnt think it was thallium in the end i thought....

He was a spy, and x kgb spy who knew his life was in danger.. he wouldnt be careless like that..

they'd assume the people are going to suspect them, but why make it so obvious?

was it made to look like the government did it?



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 10:27 AM
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please see this thread for an update.



www.abovetopsecret.com...

snoopyuk



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 10:47 AM
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Is that official? I can't find a refference.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 11:35 AM
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Just been confirmed on the 5:30 News. Pollonium 210. Traces found at his home, a Hotel he stayed at and the Sushi Bar. Also in his body.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 11:41 AM
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To tell you the truth...I like ole Putin. He'd probably be a better president than GW. At least you would know where he is coming from and understand his speeches...even if he spoke Russian.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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BREAKING NEWS!!

Putin to appear on Fox to talk about his new book describing how he would have killed the dissident spy IF he had really done such a thing.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 01:28 PM
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Excellent! ('
')Now where's my old mate Blabblabblabetc,etc. I want to hear his take on events.

[edit on 07/21/06 by Fang]



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 05:46 PM
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If It was indeed the Russian govenrment, why make it so obvious that it was a state funded assination?


Actually a state funded "assination" sounds quite pleasurable. And I'd want my assin to be statuesque and blonde with a 36-inch che......



Wouldnt you expect him to have an 'accident' in his automobile one night?

[edit on 24-11-2006 by Agit8dChop]


I think the use of poison makes a point. While no one's admitting to the assassination, everyone pretty much knows its the KGB m.o. to use poisons.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by The Crow
BREAKING NEWS!!

Putin to appear on Fox to talk about his new book describing how he would have killed the dissident spy IF he had really done such a thing.




I know it's not a laughing matter, but that made me laugh my ass off



Anyway, looks like Russia did it but will any real proof ever be found, will any justice ever be served? Most likely the culprit is back in Moscow by now eating caviar and drinking vodka...

But it will probably make Western-Russia relations chill.



posted on Nov, 24 2006 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by behindthescenes

I think the use of poison makes a point. While no one's admitting to the assassination, everyone pretty much knows its the KGB m.o. to use poisons.


It wasn't poison! The guy was irradiated with Polonium 210.
jeezus man thats messed up.



The dissident former Russian spy who accused Vladimir Putin of having him poisoned was killed by a massive dose of a deadly radioactive element, it was disclosed today.

A large quantity of alpha radiation from polonium 210 was detected in Alexander Litvinenko’s urine, apparently just a few hours prior to his death in University College Hospital last night.

Tonight it emerged that experts had discovered traces of radiation at the two premises – a hotel and sushi bar – which Mr Litvinenko visited on November 1, the day he fell ill.

Source





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