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Topic started on 18-11-2006 @ 10:02 PM by Infoholic

City Of Dallas Installing Surveillance Cameras



Is this yet another police state issue?!

Source

The first of many surveillance cameras has been installed in downtown Dallas. Once the system is up and running, the Dallas Police Department will be able to monitor 30-percent of the business district.

Dallas Police Chief David Kunkle says, "It will create an environment where people know they can't do anything unlawful in the central business district, because the fact that the cameras are going to take away their anonymity."


Taking away your anonymity... isn't that purely against our 4th Amendment Right?

US Constitution

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


My God, people!! This is America.. the land founded on freedoms, liberties, and justice for all!!! This is not Nazi Germany!!! We should not and do not have to, "Show me your papers", here.

Take pride in who you are. Take pride in what our founding fore-fathers did for us. Take pride in what every US Soldier has done for us. They have all made, instilled, and protected freedoms... our liberties... our unalienable, God given Rights!



I'm almost certain that I will hear responses of, "Well, that's needed to prevent people from breaking the law."

Guess what folks... they are only protecting one thing according to the standpoint of this article... They are protecting the money... or the money makers! What about protecting the American populous from this fascist state that is so quick to our heels!?

These steps being taken to take away our rights and liberties... are a crime. They are raping our freedoms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


reply posted on 18-11-2006 @ 10:53 PM by Infoholic
Originally posted by djohnsto77Here's some info:
en.wikipedia.org...


Brilliant... however...

OVERVIEW: Defendant was convicted by a district court of con cealing distilled spirits. Defendant argued on appeal that the district court had erred in refusing to exclude the testimony of two witnesses and to direct a verdict for him. Defendant further argued that the district court had violated his rights under the Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the Constitution of the United States. The Court found that the witnesses were revenue officers who had picked up a jug of moonshine that defendant had discarded while running. Defendant argued that the evidence was inadmissible because the officers did not have a warrant for search or arrest. The Court stated, in affirming defendant's conviction, that there was no seizure of the jug because the officers examined the contents of the jug after it had been abandoned. The fact that the examination of the jug took place on land belonging to defendant's father did not violate the Fourth Amendment
because the special pro tection accorded b y the Fourth Amendment did not extend to the op enfields.

Source...

Nice try.. that case was tried as it was on Hester's "person". When the cops came a runnin... he tossed the evidence to the wayside.. thus making it "fair game".

[Edit]This was the only court case you provided to "prove" with court findings. #1) person in question had "moonshine" (currently under prohibition) in his/her posession. #2)the person in question dropped and fleed the said evidence knowing full well they were in the wrong. #3)if the person in question was to have stood still, there was nothing they could have done - without probable cause. #4)once the person in question dropped evidence and ran - the person in question gave probable cause.[/edit]

Not going to work... I'm still not convinced.

[edit on 11/18/2006 by Infoholic]


reply posted on 19-11-2006 @ 01:10 AM by ThichHeaded
Originally posted by jupiter869
For what it's worth.


I still don't think its worth it. Granted it saves lives and crime drops, That's a good SELLING point isn't it?

Infoholic you are my hero for say the next 16 hrs providing you read it the fast, if not 5 mins after you read it.

Here in pgh... Pittsburgh they are planning the same thing.

www.pittsburghlive.com...
I like this quote here.

Laws, however, haven't kept up with technological advances, Sweeney and others said. The laws tend to be reactive, Sweeney explained.

"Everything's allowed until something happens on the front page of the New York Times," she said. "We do not have a comprehensive privacy rule."

Bold attalics I want to point out.

So the 4th Amendment isn't clear on privacy??? So where that old toilet paper again?

So we are going to freely give up our 4th Amendment right so we can be safer??

Those of are willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither and lose both.

Deal with it.. Its an Amendment issue and that quote above proves it..
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