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My friend Choked on a ROD!!

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posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
There are two distinct ways to address this post
The first, and probably most obvious is the pornographic approach. let's just say that there are all kinds of websites that already address people choking on "Rods". There is facialabuse.com or gaggirls.com or deepthroat.com etc... THIS site DOES NOT address those types of problems! She should have a conversation with her boyfriend about this problem.


On the other hand, if you are discussing the phenomenon called "Rods" as flying entities, then I can assure you that your friend DID NOT choke on one as they are completely debunked.

en.wikipedia.org...(cryptozoology)" target="_blank" class="postlink">Wikipedia link to debunked rods
www.amsky.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Debunked Rods
www.opendb.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">More Rods Debunked
www.opendb.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Rods are Insects!
www.opendb.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Rods Explained!

I could on and on for hours with links like these! I have a friend who is a cinematographer who has shown me dozens of "Rods" on film that are nothing more than insects (I once believed that they were real as well!). I have seen the truth and the light - why are others not seeing this?


Lets see.. not only did you incorrectly link ALL of those websites, but 3 of them are from the SAME PLACE! And one is Wikipedia, dirty pool old man.

I don't know, some of them may actually be bugs, and after looking at those links and reading their opinions of them maybe they ALL are. But I stand by my conclusion that some of these things are traveling far too fast to be incests and if this is the case for every instance a rod is seen, then there should be MILLIONS of videos capturing these things, not just a couple hundred.

By the way, I have yet to see a rod "insect" slow down or "change back into an insect" when it stops flying at a certain rate on film. Maybe I just haven't seen enough of each video, but it would stand to reason that with so many insects you'd be able to take an example of one one film that is NOT flying or flapping it's wings at the "perfect" speed to make it seem rod-like, and compare it to a rod in that video. I'm still not convinced either way.

Regardless, I suggest not posting like an immature asshat about this subject, especially if you once actually believed them to be UFO's too.

[edit on 22-11-2006 by BrokenVisage]




posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 10:52 AM
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Some people can't take a joke!
LAME! Believe what you want brokenvisage, I could care less. They are BUGS - insects. Simple insects caught on film. Nothing more, nothing less. And if I desire to post "immature asshat" jokes on this forum, I will do exactly that - despite you!

After lilstening to my friend explain how digital movies are processed (frame rates etc...) I am now convinced that these are insects. He has shown me film of common honey bees appearing as "rods", houseflies appearing as "Rods" and even hummingbirds appearing as "rods". What is interesting is that the faster the insect, the longer the rod. Hmmmmmmm...

I will employ Occums Razor on this one and assume that the simplest explaination is the most likely explaination - especially since I have had a PROFESSIONAL not only explain it to me, but demonstrate it firsthand!

Again, I am so sorry that you lack a sense of humor.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
Some people can't take a joke!
LAME! Believe what you want brokenvisage, I could care less. They are BUGS - insects. Simple insects caught on film. Nothing more, nothing less. And if I desire to post "immature asshat" jokes on this forum, I will do exactly that - despite you!

After lilstening to my friend explain how digital movies are processed (frame rates etc...) I am now convinced that these are insects. He has shown me film of common honey bees appearing as "rods", houseflies appearing as "Rods" and even hummingbirds appearing as "rods". What is interesting is that the faster the insect, the longer the rod. Hmmmmmmm...

I will employ Occums Razor on this one and assume that the simplest explaination is the most likely explaination - especially since I have had a PROFESSIONAL not only explain it to me, but demonstrate it firsthand!

Again, I am so sorry that you lack a sense of humor.


Sorry, but I save my sense of humor for the off-topic forums I visit and don't consider any of this funny or something to make light of. I'm happy for you and the PROFESSIONAL you know that has shown you instances of rods becoming bugs, but I don't know the people you do and I haven't seen the videos you have, so lay off acting like this evidence is common knowledge.

You can go and happily slit your wrists on Occams Razor for this subject if you want, but from what I've seen some of these rods SIMPLY CAN'T be incests in my eyes. Like I postulated, many of these might in fact be so, but I'm not ready to call this theory debunked because YOU know a PROFESSIONAL who knows about digital film. Show me what he showed you, where is the evidence? If you were really interested in these things and came across a PROFESSIONAL demonstration of bugs being rods, where are the clips that sold you?

I honestly don't mean to ruffle feathers here, but I just don't appreciate a skeptic coming across as comical when trying to argue their side, then acting like you're in a stupor because people haven't seen what has probably only been shown to you and you alone.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 11:45 AM
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I'm not at all sure what they are and since I didn't pic/vid them myself I can't be sure RODs are bugs. But I have seen vids showing something resembling the description of the ROD passing behind a distant (say 100 ft appx) telephone poll and another above then below clouds in what I'd estimate as a split second.

If the vids are honest, then I'd say it flies to fast for something driving itself through air, using air as a means of propelling it, like a winged insect.

Would be helpful if the person injured could supply a photo of the injury and a copy of the Doctors report to you for scrutiny?

Dallas



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by BrokenVisage
You can go and happily slit your wrists on Occams Razor for this subject if you want, but from what I've seen some of these rods SIMPLY CAN'T be incests in my eyes. Like I postulated, many of these might in fact be so, but I'm not ready to call this theory debunked because YOU know a PROFESSIONAL who knows about digital film. Show me what he showed you, where is the evidence? If you were really interested in these things and came across a PROFESSIONAL demonstration of bugs being rods, where are the clips that sold you?

I honestly don't mean to ruffle feathers here, but I just don't appreciate a skeptic coming across as comical when trying to argue their side, then acting like you're in a stupor because people haven't seen what has probably only been shown to you and you alone.


Um, I'd be pretty darned careful if I were you BV. Slit my wrists? Yeah, be VERY careful!

I DID provide evidence in my first post but YOU CHOSE to IGNORE it! My buddy, Matt, doesn't have a website on Rods - he films commercials, documentaries and works for a local news affiliate where I live as a camera man. I apologize but there is no way for me to show you those videos, instead you will have to watch the videos posted on the websites that I linked to. In fact, a simple Google search on "Flying Rods Debunked" will present thousands of websites for your review and consideration.

The reason I am in a stupor that some people still consider them to be real is the VOLUME of material available on the web that CLEARLY debunks these supposed "Rods." ANYONE who has taken the time to simply search through the material AND remain OBJECTIVE will come to the conclusion that these are more likely insects that some undiscovered cryptid. There have even been threads on ATS debunking these supposed entities.

Occum's Razor, the theorem that the simplest explaination is the most plausible, has ruled the day. Let us emply this theorem with logic... If Rods DO exist how come no one has ever caught one? Why have no dead ones ever been discovered? Why has there been no discovery of it's eggs or it nest/lair/burrow etc...? Other than silly films of them, which have been easily explained via TECHNOLOGY used to film them, there is ZERO evidence of them and the LIKELY explaination that they are simple video anomolies of flying insects.

By the way, "Digital Film" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as digitial film. You are either filming digitally or on film. Either way, what they have in common is frame rate - that in conjunction with wing beats per second remains the cause of this anomly.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 04:18 PM
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If they are bugs, then how do you explain shadows behind cast along the body of the Rod? How do you explain a rod appearing from behind a distant hill? The bug theory doesnt explain away all the video and photograph footage out there. The 'Rods' video posted on this thread has great footage on it.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 05:05 PM
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revelmonk and crowpruit you are both wrong and anybody else who thinks these rods exist. And yes they already have been discredited unless i wouldnt have said that.
those pictures you posted have already been explained. just go to wikipedia and type in rods and you'll get your answer. its somthing to dowith the camera and yes they are grasshoppers and other insects. Cmon use logic if this thing were real it would defy physics. how can somthing with no wings fly at speeds impossible to see with the naked eye. Its because there not real and it sounds so dumb.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 05:13 PM
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rods do exist and i do not think they are insects i mean some of the videos have shown the rods to be up to 50ft in length which i think defys the size of any known insect. as for the story i think that its pretty cool (not the fact he may have been poisoned) im still not sure wether to fuly believe it but im not gonna say its fake because its possible.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 07:35 PM
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I belive rods to be insects that haven't been "officially" discovered yet due to their fast speed and transparent bodies once they reach adulthood. A few years back I also went on break at work and noticed about 10 or so of these really small winged bugs walking around the sidewalk near the grass. They were transparent, and would hop very quickly. The wings seemed to be a white color and were not transparent- but they looked JUST like the photos all over but very small. I didn't collect a sample because it's always been common knowledge in my mind that they are insects. I saw baby rods that day, quite a sight!
Could the be grasshopers like you say? I don't know, i'm not a bug expert. I just saw a tubular insect with two dark eyes and wavy white wings and transparent bodies. The babies must have been no more than an inch long.

p.s. I watched a documentary once that said there is a huge population of rods in the amazon, so try googling that.



[edit on 22-11-2006 by jaguarmike]



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 08:43 PM
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You guys should know that in this day and age, digital photos & video do not qualify as evidence.

They are far to open to manipulation.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 09:46 PM
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OK, if these "rods" are not insects as many here claim, then what are they? Some say they have seen them when they are not flying and describe them as insectlike. Hmm, what flies around and is insectlike? Insects maybe?

Just what are you guys looking for these rods to be?

They are insects! Fast flying insects! LIke JM said, the most obvious solution if they are not run-o-the mill g-hoppers or similar then possibly they are an as of yet undiscovered species of insect.

I think all would agree that:

1. They fly
2. They are alive
3. They are most often identified as insects.

This = Possible new variety of insect

Or maybe a species of snail with wings that when they shed their shell they fly. Or maybe a flying transparent slug or worm.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 09:47 PM
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we'll never know 100% in this world of anything that involves conspiracy or profound subjects. The thing that brings speculation to the rods are the bigger ones filmed on jose escamila, but it could be the camera.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 09:49 PM
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couldnt think of a better title
lol



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 09:57 PM
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This so stupid rods do not exost period, cased close. how come we never found no trace of them or evidence. C,mon when they show you a picture of one on video it looks just like a bug.



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 10:47 PM
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(...) welcome to ignore-land.


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Removed personal attack
You have a U2U

[edit on 24/11/06 by masqua]

[edit on 24/11/06 by masqua]



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 11:00 PM
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rods are supposed to move at such a rate that you need to look at video frame by frame to really even see them....the so called rods in space even faster as you have to break each frame down into its individual pieces to see them.....anything moving that fast....even a small small bug...hitting you in the mouth would cause severe damage



posted on Nov, 22 2006 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by TheOne1989
revelmonk and crowpruit you are both wrong and anybody else who thinks these rods exist. And yes they already have been discredited unless i wouldnt have said that.
those pictures you posted have already been explained. just go to wikipedia and type in rods and you'll get your answer. its somthing to dowith the camera and yes they are grasshoppers and other insects. Cmon use logic if this thing were real it would defy physics. how can somthing with no wings fly at speeds impossible to see with the naked eye. Its because there not real and it sounds so dumb.


I think rods exist and I see no reason to believe otherwise based on the evidence I've seen to date. The main problem is trying to understand what they really are.

Wikipedia despite what they want people to believe is not a source without bias on the topics they cover.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 01:38 AM
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The rod debunk links totally didn't work for some reason.

I was looking over some sites trying to debunk rods. Perhaps a bug can create a rod like image. I still need to see more footage, however. Lets assume a bug can create the rod phenomena, but does that mean all rod photos and videos are bugs? Is it fair to shut the book at this point?

What we need is a high speed video camera, the kind that can freeze a bullet, and then try video taping these rods.

Anyone here on ATS happen to have such a camera by chance? What would a camera like that cost? Would you be willing to try and catch some rods with the camera?

Troy



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 02:20 AM
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I feel like a retard now. Imagine getting the ONE chance (well maybe not
) to discover a new species of bug- cool if you ask me. If I had enough money to fund expeditions I would definately put money into catching a rod. It shouldn't be that difficult with some creative thinking once you find where they are highly concentrated.



posted on Nov, 23 2006 @ 02:20 PM
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OK first of all, people are way to quick to dismiss thigs like rods.

think about this I hae never seen a giraffe in my life, you dont really find them much in england, but i have seen photos of them.
i have also seen convincing photos of rods, so can they exist,
i think so.



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