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Originally posted by NJE777
Thank you for your wisdom and intellect.
I read earlier on in this thread that some people are looking forward to 'nothing', the end. Well, for those who dont know my spiritual journey, I experienced death recently, and last night I experienced nothingness. Believe me... re evaluate what you think because nothingness is frightening.
Nothingness is a void where no light, energy exists. There is nothing to see, nothing to feel except your mind that is searching for comprehension of what and where you are at. My sister is blind and I ask her 'what do you see?'. She says 'nothing...nothing...' What is nothing? All I know is that in that 'nothing', you, your mind doesnt end
I asked the Holy Spirit why I experienced it, no answer as yet....but when I read the desire for nothing on here, it did concern me. Perhaps the only reason is to share this with you because I know that I am not going to experience it again.
love & light
Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I think Matter creates the soul. ANd, the soul is like RAM on a computer. Once you pull the plug, the system that created the ram dissolves and so does the ram. When we die it's no different than when a computer is shut down. The os shuts down too.
Originally posted by dAlen
Pure_Energy, the last paragraph summarizing the neuro-net was quite interesting.
The idea of going minute by minute not remembering...whoa, thats to much, doubt we would get anywhere.
The stages of life you wrote about brought something to mind.
Its along these same lines in which I started this forum "the soul does not exist."
When I got to thinking about the mind & soul, and any connections they may or may not have, here is what I came up with.
Is there a "me"? When I say "me" Im referring to the bit that most everyone calls a soul...and by popular definition, its that spiritual aspect, that is like vodoo or majic, it slips between your fingers. It cannot be thought of or grasped as no one has discovered it yet, but everyone is sure it exist, as they cannot imagine going on without it.
So in diggin deeper, I thought about the mind...the thought processes.
Do I have an original thought outside of that which was produced by stimuli?
What do I mean? (Im not sure Im going to put this where it can be understood, but I will try)
Every action and reaction happens based upon some kind of sensory input we have had sense a kid. All of our opinions, knowledge is built up from external sources.
Even back to the first thought, it was a reaction to what was "outside of us" or the brains interpretation of the electrical signals outside of it.
Originally posted by dAlen
NJE777, interesting story regarding nothingness.
Your basically saying that your mind was active but you could not see, hear, feel, smell, etc.?
Originally posted by Matyas
There is a region in the numenal world called the Abyss. The objective is to cross over. For some it is a challenge, others still it is small play. There is a demon that guards it, I think his name is Chronozon, the Dweller in the Abyss after Aliester Crowley. Chronozon is more of an idea or tool than a demon, forever changing form and mirroring the practicioner's own struggle with ego. Most likely a form of deep genesis within the collective unconscious.
Meeting with him is like a headlong rush into an oncoming locomotive. You havn't yet become acquainted, so that may be why you are still here. I see a stronger reality, but for the time being the analogy escapes me.
Choronzon is deemed to be held in check by the power of the Goddess Babalon, inhabitant of Binah, the third Sephirah of the Tree of Life. Both Choronzon and the Abyss are discussed in Crowley's Confessions (ch. 66):
"The name of the Dweller in the Abyss is Choronzon, but he is not really an individual. The Abyss is empty of being; it is filled with all possible forms, each equally inane, each therefore evil in the only true sense of the word—that is, meaningless but malignant, in so far as it craves to become real. These forms swirl senselessly into haphazard heaps like dust devils, and each such chance aggregation asserts itself to be an individual and shrieks, "I am I!" though aware all the time that its elements have no true bond; so that the slightest disturbance dissipates the delusion just as a horseman, meeting a dust devil, brings it in showers of sand to the earth."
The Abyss and the Veil
Two obstacles hinder your ascending the Tree of Life; the Veil and the Abyss. The Veil shields your ordinary consciousness from your soul, the middle trinity formed by Chesed, Geburah and Tiphereth.
The Abyss prevents access to Kether, Chochmah and Binah, the upper trinity, the Long Face. You cannot cross this Abyss if you are bonded by your intellect. By riding a mercabah (vehicle) of experience, you can cross the Abyss to access this upper trinity.
"When you look into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you" Nietzsche
Originally posted by TheRealJesus
I rose from the dead. God doesn't lie.
Originally posted by sollie
"those who know, do not speak. those who speak, do not know." -lao tse